4.0 upgrade - DON'T DO IT if you have any Mods - and probably, don't do it period!

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  • Ace
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2004
    • 4051
    • 4.2.X

    #61
    Originally posted by MDawg
    There is one "mod" that may be the issue - vbSEO 3.5.0
    vBSEO 3.5 won't be causing the fetch_template errors, maybe you have a stray Plugin (not a Product) that remained enabled when you disabled your Products?

    (At the time you posted this, there *was* an issue with Sitemap Generator and Blog/Albums, which might have been what you read to mean there was an incompatibility with vBSEO 3.5 and Blog).
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    • Maltair
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 575
      • 5.7.5

      #62
      I got the Suite upgrade and the problems disappeared for the most part. The incompatibility was with the Blog.

      However I still get some database errors, unknown why:

      Database error in vBulletin 4.0.0:

      Invalid SQL:

      SELECT
      count(*) as maxre
      FROM tagthread
      GROUP BY tagid
      ORDER BY maxre DESC
      LIMIT 0,1;

      MySQL Error : Table '_______forums.tagthread' doesn't exist
      Error Number : 1146
      Request Date : Thursday, December 31st 2009 @ 01:33:58 PM
      Error Date : Thursday, December 31st 2009 @ 01:33:59 PM
      Script : http://www._________.com/forums/cron...and=1262288031
      Referrer : http://www._______.com/forums/general-nonfiction/
      IP Address : 98.176.XXX.XX
      Username : Unregistered
      Classname : vB_Database
      MySQL Version :

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      • Ace
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2004
        • 4051
        • 4.2.X

        #63
        That's a vBSEO Sitemap Generator error (2.5 is not compatible with 4.0)..you said all you had was vBSEO and Post Thank You..

        Are you SURE you don't have any *other* Products installed too?
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        • Maltair
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 575
          • 5.7.5

          #64
          All mods are disabled except for Thank You Post, vbSEO and Blog. Yes I guess I do have sitemap generator running too. Thanks.
          Last edited by Maltair; Thu 31 Dec '09, 11:18am.

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          • steven s
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2004
            • 3722
            • 3.8.x

            #65
            Originally posted by Ace
            Are you SURE you don't have any *other* Products installed too?
            Originally posted by MDawg
            All mods are disabled except for Thank You Post, vbSEO and Blog. Yes I guess I do have sitemap generator running too. Thanks.
            So the answer is NO. You DO NOT have all mods disabled.
            I'm not going to go back and reread everything, but it sounds like people are offering advice and you are not following it.
            ...steven
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            • Maltair
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 575
              • 5.7.5

              #66
              The latest Thank You Post, 3.5.0 vbSEO and 4.0 Blog work with vbulletin 4.0 - these are not the issue.

              The point of this thread is to not bother with upgrading to 4.0. I see no benefit versus my other website which remains at 3.8.4 and is running smoothly loaded with many mods.

              By the way, check out:

              if you have created a lot of backlinks and such and you upgrade to 4.0 Publishing Suite, absent some solution - LOOK OUT because all your backlinks will direct to a dead page and no longer to your forum.

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              • steven s
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2004
                • 3722
                • 3.8.x

                #67
                Originally posted by MDawg
                The point of this thread is to not bother with upgrading to 4.0. I see no benefit versus my other website which remains at 3.8.4 and is running smoothly loaded with many mods.
                The other point is ALWAYS back up your files.

                Now I hope a mod closes this thread.
                ...steven
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                • Ace
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 4051
                  • 4.2.X

                  #68
                  Originally posted by MDawg
                  All mods are disabled except for Thank You Post, vbSEO and Blog. Yes I guess I do have sitemap generator running too. Thanks.
                  I think I mentioned this earlier, but in case it was missed - look in 'Plugin Manager' as well as the Product one. There can be random plugins enabled that are not attached to a Product.
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                  • Maltair
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 575
                    • 5.7.5

                    #69
                    Thanks will do.

                    Although actually - I shut Mods down via Plugin Manager only. Which seems to be the most thorough shut down, correct?

                    Now I went back and shut down via Product Manager too. :-)

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                    • Ace
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 4051
                      • 4.2.X

                      #70
                      Originally posted by MDawg
                      Although actually - I shut Mods down via Plugin Manager only. Which seems to be the most thorough shut down, correct?
                      I'd say so, but it's often quicker to go through Products first (especially because they might have code that has to run on Disabling them), then check Plugins to see if anything is left over.
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                      • worldwidereefer
                        Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 31
                        • 3.8.x

                        #71
                        did a fresh install of V4 is there a way to downgrade to V3.8 without losing information ?

                        I have so many problem with V4, I am using V3.8 for my other forum and I love it.

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                        • aussiefooty
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 1903
                          • 6.0.X

                          #72
                          You have to disable mods first before upgrading to the next version. Do not uninstall the mods.
                          Aussiefootyforums

                          New Site New forum
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                          • worldwidereefer
                            Member
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 31
                            • 3.8.x

                            #73
                            I want to down grade, is this possible ?

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                            • beishe8
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 6782
                              • 4.2.X

                              #74
                              Originally posted by worldwidereefer
                              I want to down grade, is this possible ?
                              No.
                              You may install an old version and use one of your database backups with it.
                              The backup has to match your new install.


                              vB5 is unequivocally the best forum software, but not yet...

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                              • worldwidereefer
                                Member
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 31
                                • 3.8.x

                                #75
                                so what you saying is I have to do take out the V4 and do a fresh install of V3.8.4, but I don't have to create a new DB ?

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