The RIAA Begins Suing..

[ManagerJosh]

I think we need to take a bigger step back and look at the tactics the RIAA is using. Besides music piracy, I think a violation of privacy is going on right now. Its one thing to download music, but to know what we download, there must be something they are doing that is eaves dropping on what our data is

[Vile]

The RIAA is getting desperate....

Indeed...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=529&ncid=529&e=4&u=/ap/20030909/ap_en_mu/downloading_music_11

[ManagerJosh]

Indeed...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ading_music_11

Oh that's definitely the last straw..not to mention bullying 12 year old girls....how pathetic.

Now I'm really furious at the RIAA for even going that far.

RIAA, gotta catch up with the times and know how to change with times.

Technically these guys are asking for it even after being caught spiking prices up to make profits, they go after junior high students just to make a quick buck and set an example...

I really now want to see these tactics the RIAA is using because I'm very suspicious of them right now on the ability to pinpoint people with complete accuracy

[filburt1]

When you buy your beloved vbulletin - you most certainly are not buying the code, you're buying a license to use the code within certain guidelines. Same with music, you buy the right to listen to it within certain guidelines.

Do you steal vbulletin too?

You can't compare vBulletin and music as they're two completely different products. One is functional, the other is purely artistic (or at times, the last thing from artistic, but you get my point).

[okrogius]

I think he's talking about CDs with that "copyright protection" technology that disallows you to rip the CD to your hard drive.

Everything can be ripped. It's only a question of how easy it is.

Just to give an example, something I find often is a two session disc with the track 1 with pc details, while music on track 2. As a result your explorer will only show you the track 1. Well... you can still very easily rip it.

[Marco]

The RIAA are morons. Oldfashioned greedy bastards. But they're not the only ones at fault... there's also the kind of people who never buys a CD, yet they listen to music all day long. I agree that's just wrong... admittedly, I download a lot of music. I have about 50 albums sitting here in MP3 format on my PC. But hey... if I decide I actually like the CD I just downloaded, sooner or later I will go out and buy it. Because I feel that if I really like a CD, it's worth my money. The ones I don't like, well, I listen to them a few times and I stop caring about them. Sure, I suppose the RIAA would rather see me spend €20 on a CD and then later find out that it's crap, but that's not gonna happen.

MP3 is a good thing, but the way it is now, way too many people abuse it.

[CeleronXT]

The RIAA are morons. Oldfashioned greedy bastards. But they're not the only ones at fault... there's also the kind of people who never buys a CD, yet they listen to music all day long. I agree that's just wrong... admittedly, I download a lot of music. I have about 50 albums sitting here in MP3 format on my PC. But hey... if I decide I actually like the CD I just downloaded, sooner or later I will go out and buy it. Because I feel that if I really like a CD, it's worth my money. The ones I don't like, well, I listen to them a few times and I stop caring about them. Sure, I suppose the RIAA would rather see me spend €20 on a CD and then later find out that it's crap, but that's not gonna happen.

MP3 is a good thing, but the way it is now, way too many people abuse it.

I definitely do buy CDs on the off chance that there's a band from which I like more than 3 songs, which is actually pretty rare. On my desk here I have my CD rack filled with CDs and it only ammounts to around 100 songs. Now I also have a hard drive on my desk that is 9 inches by 6 inches and it holds 10 times more music than my entire desk does with those freaking CDs.

[Marco]

Heh... I guess that's the way they will have to go eventually. Offer music online and let people choose what songs they want, if they so desire.

But besides that... artists make squat off CDs anyway. Touring and merchandising is what brings in the big bucks... and I doubt people will ever pirate a band t-shirt

[spiritUNIT004]

The RIAA is getting desperate....
http://news.com.com/2100-1028_3-5073817.html?tag=fd_top

Ok, I think the only thing I might accept for them to sue for is for those download child porn. Child porn is one thing that is not allowed anywhere in here.

Why sue people that like to get music? Sueing aint gonna help, as the new kazaa got a special privacy feature that RIAA can't do much about it. As the RIAA gets their anti-piracy up, people get cracks to stop them too.

Some people don't have money to buy a piece of **** cd that you will end up giving it away or broken or avandoned. All those people that are like "OH YEAH, YOU SHOULDN'T STEAL AND BLAH." you guys must be the ones that got jobs and can buy cd's, but those that can't get a job CAN'T buy CD'S that much. If you where in our situation you will be whining like a little girl and stupids. I don't care and no-one cares whether you say we steal or not. If people want to steal then they steal, they're not your actions. I don't steal, but I don't say people that steal like "don't do it because is bad". If they get in trouble then they're the one in trouble not you! Dammit people get on your business, I like my music and I will keep downloading my music when ever I want. The sales went down 13%... Ok? Wtf, like if it was 50%, bet they don't say.

"The artist promotion have gotten up too (like 15+% i bet)".

Everywhere I do see someone talking supporting the RIAA. Ok guys that support the RIAA, tell me this.

If you have a computer and you don't have a job no more and you need to pay LOT of bills and can't buy the music you like? What are you gonna do then?... Probbably say, "oh yeah, i wanna support the *****es so i won't listen to music no more", but get it on the real situation. I bet a week after you gonna have your kazaa (or whatever prog u use) with the list full of mp3's and ripping the music.

Some say some artists are gonna stop selling CD'S but be smart people, if they stop selling albums they are the ones that are gonna loose, probbably a month later theres another artist better and you forget about the other artist.

So all of you that are supporting the RIAA please shut up, you are the ones that lose. As for me, from now on i'm gonna download even more music illegally because of the RIAA.

All those that are scared of the RIAA on being sued get the new kazaa lite and you'll be safer.

http://k-lite.tk

Screw the RIAA.

[0ptima]

Ok, I think the only thing I might accept for them to sue for is for those download child porn. Child porn is one thing that is not allowed anywhere in here.

Another .02 cents....

Child porn has been available for many years, even before the Internet was widely available and where was the RIAA then? If they miraculously put a stop to P2P, will they be still interested in hunting down child pornographers?

[spiritUNIT004]

Another .02 cents....

Child porn has been available for many years, even before the Internet was widely available and where was the RIAA then? If they miraculously put a stop to P2P, will they be still interested in hunting down child pornographers?

What I mean by my previous statement was that RIAA is looking for excusses to get the P2P out. Also that child porn shouldn't be showed anyways.

[WizyWyg]

So all of you that are supporting the RIAA please shut up, you are the ones that lose. As for me, from now on i'm gonna download even more music illegally because of the RIAA.

So because I support the RIAA and record labels, but disagree with their tactics, I must shut-up? So we can't agree that they are trying what they think is right to do, however the public has the right to disagree? So we can't be of two minds on the situation?

Are you one of those trolls that come here thinking that the only thing that matters is what they think? Two threads now, and nothing you have offered is reasonable, and defiintely outlandish.

This stinks of a troll.

All those that are scared of the RIAA on being sued get the new kazaa lite and you'll be safer.

http://k-lite.tk

Screw the RIAA.

hey troll-boi, the RIAA can still get your informatin, even with Kazaa lite. All they need is your IP and your access times and and supoena your ISP for the information.

[spiritUNIT004]

*****, then how haven't they cought no-one with kazaa-lite? stupid

[WizyWyg]

*****, then how haven't they cought no-one with kazaa-lite? stupid

*****? haha, so now you juvenile self have to resort to name calling.

FYI, kazaa lite is only a "hacked" version of the original KAZAA. It still uses KAZAA's server/music city/etc to get on. KAZAA and KAZAA lite are lumped together in the eyes of the RIAA. YOU ARE STILL a KAZAA user where its the original or the "lite" version

Maybe you should actually learn about the software you're trying to advocate?

http://doa2.host.sk/help/aboutkazaa.htm

[merk]

Heh... I guess that's the way they will have to go eventually. Offer music online and let people choose what songs they want, if they so desire.

http://www.apple.com/itunes/

http://www.pressplay.com