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  • w12345
    started a topic Some questions about vbulletin

    Some questions about vbulletin

    I have not bought it yet but I wonder one thing, why is it not possible to see which themes and plugins are there? Do I have to buy first to see?


    Can you use older version of vbulletin? This one looks so sad.

  • whitetigergrowl
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    Originally posted by Wayne Luke View Post

    We have no information to share about importers at this time.
    A lack of an importer is mind bending considering most other forum software offer something. At least supporting Xenforo and IPB and some of the free ones to help make it easier to move from one forum software to another. Even free ones offer an importer. So lack of one for VB is not very forward thinking.

    Right now if someone wants to port from one of them they need to pay for someone to try and convert it which can cost hundreds of dollars in many cases, if not more. So it's a strong deterrent not offering one.

    Want more people to adopt VB 5? An importer is a good start.

    Right now for many people there is zero incentive to move to VBulletin from someone else. None. Full stop.

    If I'm looking at moving to VB from IPB, Xenforo, or one of the free ones and I have a forum with thousands of threads, posts, and members, I have no easy way to do so. I would have to spend a lot of money to port to VB.

    But since I can't readily port to VB, I'm forced to look at other forum software to meet my needs. Thus losing a customer.

    I dunno. It's mind bending why an importer isn't included as an option when most others offer something.

    Vbulletin needs to ask themselves why they don't offer one and what the lack of offering one could be doing to their bottom line. I'm confident they have lost many potential customers due to not offering one. It's like VBulletin wants to force people to look at the competition or something. Which I would think is something they wouldn't want.

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  • Wayne Luke
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    Originally posted by whitetigergrowl View Post
    I'm more curious when a proper importer featuring AT LEAST Xenforo and IPB will be available that supports their latest versions and maybe the last of their old versions. Because if anyone is looking to move to VB from those 2, they are greatly inhibited by it and thus just look elsewhere.

    They offer basic importers. Why doesn't VB do the same?
    We have no information to share about importers at this time.

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  • whitetigergrowl
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    I'm more curious when a proper importer featuring AT LEAST Xenforo and IPB will be available that supports their latest versions and maybe the last of their old versions. Because if anyone is looking to move to VB from those 2, they are greatly inhibited by it and thus just look elsewhere.

    They offer basic importers. Why doesn't VB do the same?

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  • Wayne Luke
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    Originally posted by w12345 View Post


    So it may be. How to quote this multi?
    Click the quote button for each reply you want to quote, then click the orange Post Reply (X) button at the top of the screen.

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  • Wayne Luke
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    Originally posted by w12345 View Post
    What styles then, how do I see what styles are included?
    You can see them here: https://www.vbulletin.com/en/themes/

    You can also select each style in the footer of this forum and view it in more indepth.

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  • w12345
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    Originally posted by In Omnibus View Post

    Because XenForo is just a poor man's vBulletin 4. I don't want to rain on your parade but your style is about the last thing you should be concerned with when deciding to build a forum. It won't keep anyone coming back. Only quality content does that.

    So it may be. How to quote this multi?

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  • w12345
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    Originally posted by Mark.B View Post

    They are all selectable using the dropdown on this site, bottom left of the page.

    https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/arti.../styles-themes ?

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  • whitetigergrowl
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    Originally posted by In Omnibus View Post

    Because XenForo is just a poor man's vBulletin 4. I don't want to rain on your parade but your style is about the last thing you should be concerned with when deciding to build a forum. It won't keep anyone coming back. Only quality content does that.
    That's highly debatable. In fact, Xenforo is created and being worked on by some of the VB 3 developers, with VB 3 being considered the most popular version. However because of legal issues brought on by IB, development was put on hold for a few years. Thus causing them to fall behind on its development, putting them about 2 years behind.

    That being said interest in VBulletin has cooled tremendously. VB.org reflects that. They still use the old VB software with no obvious intent to upgrade to VB 5 which is rather telling. And the sheer number of people developing mods for VB 5 is pathetic with many abandoning VB 5 mod development and VB development in general. 93 VB 5 mods vs 1,968 mods for VB 4 after how many years? It's sad.

    Some may argue it's because of how feature rich VB 5 is. But thats not really true at all as there is A LOT of room for improvement and flexibility of the VB 5 platform.

    https://trends.builtwith.com/cms/XenForo

    https://trends.builtwith.com/cms/vBulletin

    https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.vbulletin.com

    Those stats give a general reflection. Many forums I visit that use VB are still using VB 3 or VB 4 and refuse to upgrade to VB 5 because it's not perceived well.

    It's sad really. Vbulletin used to be the defacto forum software. It no longer is because of the decisions made by those higher up in the IB food chain. The fact VB5 hasn't even put VB 6 on the drawing board (their words very recently) indicates that the forum software really has no upward trajectory.

    The fact is, at this point VBulletin sadly is no longer as relevant as it was once was. It's glory days are over.

    No proper importer. A poor upgrade system from VB 4 to VB 5. And software that isn't looked at too fondly. VB 6 could maybe have rectified some of that but with it not even on the radar I guess it's just back to more of the same old same old that many don't want.

    This isn't to be a diss on VB. But a reminder that regardless of what one may think of Xenforo or other forum software, they in general are doing better and are in a better position for future development and growth than VB is. Something to think about.

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  • NumNum
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    As seen here.

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  • Mark.B
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    Originally posted by w12345 View Post
    What styles then, how do I see what styles are included?
    They are all selectable using the dropdown on this site, bottom left of the page.

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  • In Omnibus
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    Originally posted by w12345 View Post
    Multi quote, like, is there something like I do not see?

    I'm not the one who likes to complain, but do not you think the mood has gone down? Why should you choose vbulletin before xenforno which is a few decades before? Their style is not even close by. Look at the vbulletin itself how it has been developed. Terribly. Why I say all this is that the developer may have to get involved and listen to others instead believe he knows best
    Because XenForo is just a poor man's vBulletin 4. I don't want to rain on your parade but your style is about the last thing you should be concerned with when deciding to build a forum. It won't keep anyone coming back. Only quality content does that.

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  • w12345
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    Multi quote, like, is there something like I do not see?

    I'm not the one who likes to complain, but do not you think the mood has gone down? Why should you choose vbulletin before xenforno which is a few decades before? Their style is not even close by. Look at the vbulletin itself how it has been developed. Terribly. Why I say all this is that the developer may have to get involved and listen to others instead believe he knows best

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  • w12345
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    Originally posted by Wayne Luke View Post
    The Gradient theme may be more to you're liking. We ship the software with over a dozen styles.
    What styles then, how do I see what styles are included?

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  • NumNum
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    I agree, and the ease of designing, you can do a lot along with additional css is a plus.

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