Would it have been too much to ask for???

[SloppyGoat]

This would actually shut everyone up. At least for 5 minutes, before they find something new to whinge about.

I'm not whining...just trying to establish what's actually going to happen from what everyone seems to think is happening. I know vBulletin isn't going to abandon all of their clientele. They know we all must pay the support fee eventually, even if late, or we can't continue doing business, since downloading new versions depend on it. I think the biggest misunderstanding is in calling this support fee an inactive license. It's not. It's an inactive support fee.

[tgcsniper]

I'm not whining...just trying to establish what's actually going to happen from what everyone seems to think is happening. I know vBulletin isn't going to abandon all of their clientele. They know we all must pay the support fee eventually, even if late, or we can't continue doing business, since downloading new versions depend on it. I think the biggest misunderstanding is in calling this support fee an inactive license. It's not. It's an inactive support fee.

True, i know your not.

All this happened when vB3 was release, and what happened? Everyone just shut up and upgraded after a few weeks...

[wildweb]

It better be sooner rather than later and be much more business savvy than that last joke. Many of us multiple owned license holders and long time vB customers are outta here if not. Don't believe me...take a look at the IPB forums......just left there myself and even though I just renewed two owned VB licenses....I'll gladly fork over the IPB price and convert very soon rather than be treated like an idiot and expect to pay for vaporware that your fool leader Ray thinks we will all so gladly do.

And from one Santa Monica/LA neighbor to another...Ray M, you can kiss my ass!

[AVC]

The Titanic is sinking folks, without a word from the CEO of IB, now that is sad for sure !!!

[ENF]

Bingo.

Due to an overwhelming response and interest in the pre-sale event for vBulletin 4.0 Publishing Suite, we've decided to extend an offer to those customers with inactive licenses.

For licenses that expired in the last 12 months, we are offering an extra $45 discount for advance ordering, in addition to the publicly available pre-sale savings of $50. This means the all new vB 4.0 Publishing Suite will cost you only $190, a total savings of $95.

For licenses that expired more than 12 month ago, we are offering an extra $25 discount for advance ordering, in addition to the publicly available pre-sale savings of $50. This means the all new vB 4.0 Publishing Suite will cost you only $210, a total savings of $75.

These limited time offers expire on October 30, 2009. Beginning on October 31, the price will be $285.

You will be able to take advantage of this offer in the next couple of days - we are currently working to make it an option in your shopping cart. We will notify you once this offer is live on the website.

I almost called it. Two plans for 12 months and 12+ months. Now, people will complain about the 10/30 deadline.

[ENF]

The Titanic is sinking folks, without a word from the CEO of IB, now that is sad for sure !!!

Why does a CEO need to chime in?

Only your Titanic is sinking!

[AVC]

I'm not interested in the vB publishing package.

The only thing I want to see is the forum software offer and licensing terms for multiple license owners, expired or valid.

[ricerice]

We're working on a solution for people with inactive licenses. However the new shopping cart doesn't allow for renewals of any kind so we cannot just implement that.

thank you wayne luke. i have an expired license and unexpired blog. i would love to have a savings for the suite. thanks for the consideration.

[tgcsniper]

Why does a CEO need to chime in?

Only your Titanic is sinking!

Head first by the sounds of things. I wonder if she has split yet

[AVC]

Why does a CEO need to chime in?

Only your Titanic is sinking!

As I mentioned.

Do you really think you know what you are talking about ?

[ENF]

As I mentioned.

Do you really think you know what you are talking about ?

Why yes, Yes I do.

And you?

[SloppyGoat]

Nobody who owns a lifetime license has to renew it. We simply need to be allowed to pay the support fee to download the new version. The terminology is what's wrong here. I don't have an inactive license. How can I, if it's a lifetime license? I just need to pay the support fee again. I would recommend changing the terminology to avoid further confusion, unless that's part of the marketing strategy?

[nexialys]

you are right about the terms... obsolete terminology...

[Wayne Luke]

For an operation as large and well established as vbulletin, why even launch an order page (shopping cart, as you called it) without ability for customers to renew?

We don't have a renewal product anymore so we didn't code for it. Previous licenses cannot be renewed once they expire. They can be converted to the new license if the customer wishes to upgrade.

[LegolasTheElf]

We don't have a renewal product anymore so we didn't code for it. Previous licenses cannot be renewed once they expire. They can be converted to the new license if the customer wishes to upgrade.

Changing the terms of our license, with no warning is NOT an appropriate way to conduct business.