What happened to hybrid mode?

[Bookish1]

Hybrid mode made following a particular conversation within a thread way easy. This new layout is not nearly as user-friendly and is rather frustrating. I'm hoping that this was an oversight that can be fixed and not something that was intentionally left out.

[Mark.B]

Hybrid mode was removed in vBulletin 5. It was hardly used by anyone and is seen as an outdated means to read threads.

[Bookish1]

I think it was used by quite a few on the site I normally post to (CARM). Why remove the option entirely? It was cleaner and quicker. Before the update, we at least could chose how to view a thread. Not to sound snotty, but this new means of reading the threads is horrendous and irritating. What was the reasoning behind thinking this method was an improvement? It was so much easier to open a thread and see if someone responded to particular part of the conversation.

[Mark.B]

I think it was used by quite a few on the site I normally post to (CARM). Why remove the option entirely? It was cleaner and quicker. Before the update, we at least could chose how to view a thread. Not to sound snotty, but this new means of reading the threads is horrendous and irritating. What was the reasoning behind thinking this method was an improvement? It was so much easier to open a thread and see if someone responded to particular part of the conversation.

vBulletin 5 was a major rewrite. Features that went mostly unused were removed. The 'new' method has been in common use on forums for over fifteen years and is the long established standard.

Threaded and hybrid modes were mainly put in originallly to ease the transition from newsgroups which used a threaded format, in the early days of web forums. There is no need for these now. I accept that doesn't suit your particular case though.

[William Thomas Jr]

Hybrid mode reminds me of Reddit. I am familiar with CARM but detest the threaded view. It reminds me of an inbox with responses to a mailer. I'm surprised though to see that it is not in Vb5, I actually thought it was, but I just never wanted to enable it.

[Wayne Luke]

Customers can request a new feature here: http://tracker.vbulletin.com/secure/...91&issuetype=7

It will be reviewed and acted on appropriately. This issue will probably need a large number of votes to raise from "Future Release".

[Bookish1]

Customers can request a new feature here: http://tracker.vbulletin.com/secure/...91&issuetype=7

It will be reviewed and acted on appropriately. This issue will probably need a large number of votes to raise from "Future Release".

How many votes, roughly?

[Bookish1]

Customers can request a new feature here: http://tracker.vbulletin.com/secure/...91&issuetype=7

It will be reviewed and acted on appropriately. This issue will probably need a large number of votes to raise from "Future Release".

Also, it doesn't appear I have permissions to post to that link?

[Mark.B]

Also, it doesn't appear I have permissions to post to that link?

You need to be a licensed customer, and associate your forum account with your license, in order to use the bug tracker.

[Wayne Luke]

How many votes, roughly?

Currently an issue needs more than 12 votes to show up on the popular list.

[Bookish1]

Currently an issue needs more than 12 votes to show up on the popular list.

How many licenses are out there? Is there a way to know which issues have how many votes?

[Bookish1]

Hybrid mode was removed in vBulletin 5. It was hardly used by anyone and is seen as an outdated means to read threads.

Back to this point, how was it determined that it was hardly used by anyone? And by "anyone" are you referring to license holders, or the members that frequent the forums of everyone who has a license?

[Wayne Luke]

How many licenses are out there? Is there a way to know which issues have how many votes?

Many thousands. Customers can view issues by number of votes.

Back to this point, how was it determined that it was hardly used by anyone? And by "anyone" are you referring to license holders, or the members that frequent the forums of everyone who has a license?

We rely on customers to provide us with information. Plus we can query our own sites such as vBulletin.com and vBulletin.org or the sites of our parent company which have millions of users combined. The feature has fallen out of heavy usage as the web has evolved over the years. We only have so much time to devote to development so features will come and go as time passes.

[Bookish1]

Many thousands. Customers can view issues by number of votes.



We rely on customers to provide us with information. Plus we can query our own sites such as vBulletin.com and vBulletin.org or the sites of our parent company which have millions of users combined. The feature has fallen out of heavy usage as the web has evolved over the years. We only have so much time to devote to development so features will come and go as time passes.

"Customers" = license holders, though, yes? Members can't view issues by votes?

And what happens if they don't provide information? How many of those with licenses relay the info to vbulletin?

I'm really trying to understand this, because I have a difficult time believing that someone can look at a thread with over 100 responses (as those on CARM often do) and think "you know what would make this easier? If we just stacked one response under another", especially if someone doesn't use the quote function so you have no idea who they're responding to, or you just want to see if particular members (or anyone at all) responded to something you posted, or (and this is a real hassle and waste of time) when a sub-topic emerges and carries on for several pages. When that happeend in hybrid, you could see it at a glance and skip 7, 8, or 9 pages of sub-topic instantly.

This is an ok setup for help and how to forums, where threads are only a couple pages long, but when a thread is 11 pages? 19 pages? 42?? It's a nightmare.