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    While moving users from one usergroup to another, I noticed that a few got left behind. Upon further notice, the little exclamation box appeared next to their usernames with the following message...
    Code:
    You may not delete/move this user - The user is either:
    
    1) An Administrator
    2) A Super-Moderator
    3) A Moderator
    4) Undeletable User (config.php)
    5) You!
    The users in question were former Moderators, but clearly aren't and have not been for several iterations of vB. They are not any of the five suggested reasons posted either. Any suggestions as to why they are getting hung-up?

  • #2
    have you checked your config.php file?..
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    • #3
      Yes, checked and verified number 1-5.

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      • #4
        What is the usergroupid if the group that user is in? Do you have any third-party add-ons installed?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Steve Machol View Post
          What is the usergroupid if the group that user is in? Do you have any third-party add-ons installed?
          Various usergroupid's; tried with several with same results. Disabled products/plugins, same results. I cannot reproduce this with any other userid except for these three former Moderators that used to be Moderators over a year ago. Not a huge issue, but it's there. Thought maybe something might be tagging along somewhere in the DB attached to the userid.

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          • #6
            I cannot duplicate this on an unmodified vB test forum so without any further info I would have to say a modification is causing this.

            Note: Just because you disabled or removed add-on does not remove the changes they made to the database.
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            • #7
              Speaking of the DB...

              In the Moderator table;

              Full Texts moderatorid userid forumid permissions importmoderatorid permissions2
              Edit Delete 1 1 -1 8339455 0 131071
              Edit Delete 2 38 -1 8207871 0 113659
              Edit Delete 4 22 -1 8207871 0 113659
              Edit Delete 5 279 -1 8207871 0 113659
              Edit Delete 6 4 -1 8207871 0 113659

              All userid's (38,22,279,4) sans myself (1) are no longer Moderators and the current Moderators are not listed here. What is this table referring to?

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              • #8
                Running the following SQL query:
                DELETE FROM `moderator` WHERE `moderator`.`moderatorid` =2 LIMIT 1 ;
                DELETE FROM `moderator` WHERE `moderator`.`moderatorid` =4 LIMIT 1 ;
                DELETE FROM `moderator` WHERE `moderator`.`moderatorid` =5 LIMIT 1 ;
                DELETE FROM `moderator` WHERE `moderator`.`moderatorid` =6 LIMIT 1 ;

                has removed the entries and fixed the problem. Still a bit curious as to what caused this though.

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                • #9
                  i have the same

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                  • #10
                    Did you ever add these users to a forum as moderators?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GearTripper View Post
                      has removed the entries and fixed the problem. Still a bit curious as to what caused this though.
                      You assigned the people as moderators in the Forum Manager and never removed them as Moderators. Moderator permissions have nothing to do with Usergroup permissions and are stored separately.

                      In fact the Moderator usergroup imparts no special permissions on its own and has the same basic permissions as the Registered Usergroup by default. It was only added because people wanted a usergroup for their moderators for whatever reason.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Wayne Luke View Post
                        You assigned the people as moderators in the Forum Manager and never removed them as Moderators. Moderator permissions have nothing to do with Usergroup permissions and are stored separately.

                        In fact the Moderator usergroup imparts no special permissions on its own and has the same basic permissions as the Registered Usergroup by default. It was only added because people wanted a usergroup for their moderators for whatever reason.
                        So when I selected the REMOVE button next to "If You Would Like to Remove this Moderator", I wasn't really removing them as Moderators? C'mon man, I know better then that! In any case, my particular issue was fixed as noted above. Don't always assume your users don't know what they're doing. The problem was obviously an issue with vB somewhere along the line.

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                        • #13
                          i make them moderator in the past with certain permission

                          and then i transfere them to registered user group and remove it from REMOVE button

                          but when i prune the user

                          i cant

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                          • #14
                            USergroups do not make a person a moderator normally, you need to make sure they're not listed as a moderator.

                            AdminCP > Forums & Moderators > Show All Moderators.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Zachery View Post
                              USergroups do not make a person a moderator normally, you need to make sure they're not listed as a moderator.

                              AdminCP > Forums & Moderators > Show All Moderators.

                              yes they r not listed in the Show All Moderators list

                              but i still cant prune or remove them

                              and i edit the members now and i see

                              they r in the registered usergroup

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