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  • IE7 Popup Issues

    I originally posted this in Chat, but now I have got to the bottom of it I think it's something Jelsoft ought to be aware of.

    You know those Javascript popup boxes that are used for formatting from the new message windows? Such as inserting a hyperlink? Well, in IE7 they won't work without a lot of playing about.

    Even if you turn off the popup blocker they still won't work. Even if you add the site to the popup blocker allowed sites list, it will STILL block them.

    You have to got to Internet Options > Security > Trusted Sites, UNTICK "Require server verification" and then add the site in the box.

    That's the only way to get it to work, and it's designed that way so it's not a bug that's going to be fixed or anything.

    I think this is going to cause big problems when IE7 is released and most people start using it.
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    Yeah, I noticed this also. Really annoying. But, there's nothing Jesoft can do about it is there? It's an IE issue.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by conqsoft View Post
      Yeah, I noticed this also. Really annoying. But, there's nothing Jesoft can do about it is there? It's an IE issue.
      Well, yes and no. It's an IE matter, but it's not going to be fixed, it's deliberate.

      What Jelsoft will be doing if they don't look into this, is effectively providing a feature that won't work for 85% of the population without some hefty tweaking to the security settings, and given that that tweak involves disabling the https check, many people won't want to do that anyway.

      Thus to the outside user the software will appear "broken" even though technically it isn't.

      Webmasters with vB forums will then be forever answering questions about how to fix the problem. I *know* that will happen on my site, and I can already envisage the complaints.

      I am sure that is not a situation Jelsoft will want. I think this is actually quite a major issue - or will be early next year - and an alternative solution will need to be found, sad to say.
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      • #4
        Hmm, vB.com is a trusted site but I haven't changed any of the trusted site settings,. The only thing that isn't working for me right now directly is the IeSpellcheck

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Zachery View Post
          Hmm, vB.com is a trusted site but I haven't changed any of the trusted site settings,. The only thing that isn't working for me right now directly is the IeSpellcheck
          Hi Zachery.

          Try taking vbulletin.com out of the trusted sites list....you will find that the Javascript popups won't work.
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          • #6
            I allowed popups on this site after taking vB.com out of my trusted sites and it worked fine...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Zachery View Post
              I allowed popups on this site after taking vB.com out of my trusted sites and it worked fine...
              Hmmm..that's not how I've found it. A few others are saying the same thing.

              I did a search last night and found some information on the MS site that explains that javascript popups still get blocked even if the pop up blocker is turned off, due to the apparent high risk factor, and that the only way round it was to use trusted sites. That's how I found the fix.

              I'll see if I can dig this out again later.

              My concern is that, if it's true and the way it works for me is how it will be for everyone, this feature of vB is going to have to be changed because it will cause propblems for a lot of people when IE7 becomes mainstream.
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              • #8
                Found some info here, not from MS but it describes the problem exactly:

                (Source HERE)
                The problem with the script generated input dialog boxes is that IE7 will block all of them regardless of your Pop-up Blocker settings, even if you include the URL link location in the “Address of website to allow” section, or even after you disable and completely turn off the IE 7 Pop-up Blocker in order to allow all pop-ups.

                When you click on the warning message at IE7 Information Bar, you can choose the option of Temporarily Allow Pop-ups (noted that there is no Always Allows Pop-up from This Site option) to temporarily allow the input dialog boxes to show up. But another issue to this solution is that if you’re in the middle of typing a long list of article (such as writing your blog using WordPress HTML editor), selecting Temporarily Allow Pop-ups option will reload and refresh the page, which may cause all unsaved entry to lose permanently.

                The input dialog boxes blocker security feature is designed help protect your security online, as these input dialog boxes are often used to spoof input fields on legitimate websites. So it’s blocked regardless of general Pop-up Blocker settings. However, you can allow input dialog boxes generated by scripting from specific websites, by adeding the sites into your Trusted Sites zone in Internet Explorer 7. To do this:

                1. Go to Tools in Internet Explorer 7, then click on Internet Options.
                2. Go to Security tab.
                3. Select the Trusted sites zone.
                3. Click on Sites on launch the panel to manage trusted sites.
                4. Key in the specific site that you want to trust and allow all pop-ups including script-generated input dialog boxes to the text box for “Add this site to the zone”. If you’re viewing the website that you want to trust, the URL link location will be shown automatically.
                5. Click Add when done. Note that if the website is not encryted with SSL, you need to unclick (unselect) “Require server verification (https for all sites in this zone” before you can Add the normal http: websites.
                The website should listed on the middle box Website listing.
                Click Close and then OK to exit.
                The website will now no longer be blocked any elements, be it normal webpage pop-ups or dialog boxes. You may need to restart the browser for the new setting to take effect.
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                • #9
                  Same thing here. I have popups allowed for my site, and for instance, I have PM's open a new window, and that works.

                  What doesn't work is for instance inserting a hyperlink. It asks if you want to temporarily allow popups even though popups are allowed. It's inconvenient in the fact that if you already have a post ready to go, and you go to add a link and you temporarily allow the popups, it clears anything already typed in.

                  That's why I came here hoping to find a fix.

                  It doesn't seem to happen here on this site.
                  Last edited by MotoUp; Thu 10th Aug '06, 9:51am.

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                  • #10
                    The only way around it seems to be adding the site to your Trusted Sites list.
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                    • #11
                      What version of the IE 7 beta are you using? I am not experiencing any of these problems and haven't gone through the steps you outlined. Nor do I have this or any other vBulletin site listed in my Trusted Sites list.
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                      • #12
                        IE 7 Beta 3 here. Default settings. No Google Toolbars/etc. Happens to me on any 3.6 site.
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                        • #13
                          Same settings here. I added my site to the trusted sites, and it doesn't happen now.

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                          • #14
                            I use IE7 Beta 3 and get the same thing. Click Insert Link or Insert Image and it is blocked.
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                            • #15
                              Just wanted to add that the popups used in the WYSIWYG editor aren't affected and work correctly. This only seems to affect the popups used on the standard editor.
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