Template Category names all "Templates"

[phenomenon]

Greetings.

I just installed vBadvanced, there is a thread being started there as well.

I don't know when this started, whether it was after installing vbadvanced or not.

In the edit all templates mode, all the category name templates show up as "templates", rather than with their titles. Only by rolling over them with the mouse do they show up correctly.

I noticed this after switching to vb3-silver theme in the vbulletin options. However it may have been there before.

I will be reinstalling (sigh again) to see if it will fix itself.

Will "is exhausted" Lanni

[Steve Machol]

Does vBAdvabnced involve editing any of the original vB files? If so, we cannot provide support here.

[phenomenon]

Ok, so I uninstalled vBadvanced, dumped my database, restored it from the pre-vbAdvanced backup, reuploaded vb3 files, re-configged/deleted install.php.

When I log in, all my template categories are still named, "Templates" like in the screenshot above.

I'm assuming, then, it's a problem in the database conversion. Basically I had a phpBB 2.0.6 database that was converted to a vb3 database by a JelSoft staff member. The helpful fellow who did that is going to look into it once he's done celebrating his bday, (cue bday music for Jerry here).
but responded that he hadn't seen that problem before and doesn't think it will be a database problem. If anyone has any other guidance on a solution to this, I'd greatly appreciate it! -- I tried entering something new into the phrases to reset the cache, and ran all diagnostics/tools as well.

ok thanks.

[Steve Machol]

Does vBAdvanced require editing any vB files?

[Zachery]

He did say

Ok, so I uninstalled vBadvanced, dumped my database, restored it from the pre-vbAdvanced backup, reuploaded vb3 files, re-configged/deleted install.php.

[Steve Machol]

Hmmm..I don't see how that's possible. If the db backup did not contain these things then neither would the restored backup.

[phenomenon]

Yes it does. However, I uninstalled the changes to the database that vBadvanced required, then completely deleted the vb3 files from the server, then uploaded a new, fresh copy. I still had that problem.

Now, I'm beginning to wonder however if I didn't forget to clear my cache. Safari on OS X is buggy as far as the cache -- even after 'clearing' I sometimes see cached items.

Tell ya what, I'm going to do it again, from work, and check from a couple diff browsers. If it persists, I'll post back here. Heck, if it doesn't I'll post back as well, and we can just close this.

[phenomenon]

Hmmm..I don't see how that's possible. If the db backup did not contain these things then neither would the restored backup.

Hate to be a moron, but I think it's hereditary. When you say, "these things", what do you mean? I'm guessing you mean that the template category names are not stored in the database, but are stored in the administrator_templates.php file? So that it wouldn't matter whether I have a brand new database or a restored one, the problem isn't there?

I'm uploading a fresh clean install to try out with the restored database right now. This may just be a PEBCAK error: Problem Exists Between Chair And Keyboard. We'll see.

[Steve Machol]

The template names come from the database. If you restored the original database that did not include this info, then I really don't see how this could be happening. I could be misunderstaning what you have done though.

[phenomenon]

Ok. I've just totally deleted the upgraded/modded forum install.

I downloaded a new copy from the member's area.

I edited the config, and deleted install.php

I uploaded the new forum.

I did NOT mess with upgrade.php (should I?)

I went into admincp and the template names are all screwy.

My next step, now that there is a totally clean forum install, is to go dump the database, and try this with a totally new database install.

After that, I will dump that database, restore my backup, and try again. (which I've done)

Any other suggestions or troubleshooting anyone can think of?

I'm understanding you now Steve. My feeling is that my restore does not contain the information for the template names.

[phenomenon]

Ok, confirmed it's the database. SHAZBOT. Just dumped the restore, installed vbulletin fresh, and templates showed up fine. Dumped that, re-restored, and template names are missing.

*sigh* *whimper*

So the next question: is it possible to restore my database,
Then drop the template info that isn't working right,
Then edit the vb3 install so that it inserts the correct info?

[Wayne Luke]

The names for those template categories come from the phrasing system. Before you start messing with databases check and see if the appropriate phrases are in the system.

They are:

group_buddy_list
group_calendar
group_faq
group_user_reputation
group_poll
group_private_message
group_registration
group_search
group_user_control_panel
group_user_note
group_whos_online
group_show_groups
group_post_icon
group_user_profile_field
group_bb_code_layout
group_help
group_editor
group_forum_display
group_forum_home
group_page_navigation
group_postbit
group_threadbit
group_instant_messaging
group_member_info
group_members_list
group_modify_user_option
group_new_posting
group_show_thread
group_smilie_popup
group_subscribed_thread
group_who_posted
group_thread_administration
group_php_include_code
group_navigation_breadcrumb
group_printable_thread
group_attachment_list
group_paid_subscriptions

You can find them by searching for the titles above in the Language system.

[phenomenon]

Ah HA!

Ok, none of those exist -- did a search of group_ in phrase and variable name. Nothing like the above list exists. Would it be possible to install a fresh copy of vb3 into a new database, download the phrases that i know work from there, and upload them into my restored db?

[phenomenon]

Ok, this may be a bug:

I am switching back and forth between two databases, one vb3 forum install. I have two config files -- one that refers to the restored database "forum", one that refers to a freshly installed database "tempforum". I essentially am renaming the config files. Because I'm not editing any templates or any vb files, this should work, and it seems to be. (I'm writing this in case it's very bad or could be contributing to problems)

Ok. That said, I switch to the fresh install of the database. I have all the group_ phrases. So I go to download English (US). It downloads fine.

Then I switch my config to refer to the restored database, and re-log in. I go to Languages - download/upload.

I enter "Upload the language file from your browser", browse to the file and find it fine.

then I select "Overwrite Language" -- English (US)

I leave the naming blank so it uses default from file. I've tried with both ignore version set to yes and no.

When I click to import, I get the following error:

Invalid or empty Language file specified

Is this because the language file was unmodified?

[phenomenon]

How about this: drop table phrases from restored database

dump phrases table from fresh db into textfile

insert contents of text file into restored db

that should work no?