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  • tsauvageau
    New Member
    • Aug 2014
    • 9
    • 5.0.X

    Last Post Not updating with new replies

    Our members are complaining that the "Last Post" on the forum home page does not update when a new reply has been made. It takes about 10-15 minutes before the last post is updated. Any ideas?

    vBulletin Version - 5.1.4 Patch Level 2
    PHP Version - 5.4.16
    MySQL Version - 5.6.20
    Any Addons installed - No
    Does the issue occur in a default style? - Yes
    Does the issue occur using the English language provided? - Yes
    Error message on the screen' - None
    Browser and Browser version used. - IE, Firefox, Chrome (newest versions)

    Discussion of boats, general boating questions and anything else directly related to a boat or an engine.
  • Zachery
    Former vBulletin Support
    • Jul 2002
    • 59097

    #2
    There is a cache on that sort of stuff, its intentional.

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    • tsauvageau
      New Member
      • Aug 2014
      • 9
      • 5.0.X

      #3
      Zachery , Thank you! That makes sense, just wasn't positive. I thought I remembered it updating immediately on previous versions.

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      • Zachery
        Former vBulletin Support
        • Jul 2002
        • 59097

        #4
        vBulletin 5 is a fairly different beast, we do short caches in some areas where it makes sense, in order to improve performance.

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        • mangoz
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2015
          • 127
          • 5.1.x

          #5
          Is there a way to adjust this cache time? What is the default time?
          The reputation bar is hard coded. This is bad design.
          http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-14349
          Facebook 2 step registration doesn't work
          http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-9490
          Vbulletin android app does not work with VB5 and has no roadmap -- don't buy it! Demand better.
          http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/...Aroadmap-panel

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          • wbtd
            Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 53

            #6
            Can I get a response to this?

            I would like to see "New Posts" updated in real time.

            This feature is killing our discussions as people think there are no new posts when there is.

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            • Wayne Luke
              vBulletin Technical Support Lead
              • Aug 2000
              • 73981

              #7
              Update your new topics link to this code:
              Code:
              search?searchJSON=%7B%22view%22%3A%22topic%22%2C%22unread_only%22%3A1%2C%22sort%22%3A%7B%22lastcontent%22%3A%22desc%22%7D%2C%22exclude_type%22%3A%5B%22vBForum_PrivateMessage%22%5D%7D
              1. To do this, turn on Site Builder by clicking the Edit Site button.
              2. Click on Navigation Bar
              3. Click on the edit icon (pencil) for New Topics in the Sub Navigation Bar.
              4. Past the above code into the Target URL field.
              5. Click OK
              6. Click Save Changes for the Navigation Bar.
              7. Turn off Site Builder if you wish.
              Translations provided by Google.

              Wayne Luke
              The Rabid Badger - a vBulletin Cloud demonstration site.
              vBulletin 5 API

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              • danijels2006
                New Member
                • Jun 2014
                • 5
                • 5.0.X

                #8
                Originally posted by wbtd
                Can I get a response to this?

                I would like to see "New Posts" updated in real time.

                This feature is killing our discussions as people think there are no new posts when there is.
                I have the same problem, and only after refreshing the browser I get maybe the correct and updated posts
                Originally posted by Wayne Luke
                Update your new topics link to this code:
                Code:
                search?searchJSON=%7B%22view%22%3A%22topic%22%2C%22unread_only%22%3A1%2C%22sort%22%3A%7B%22lastcontent%22%3A%22desc%22%7D%2C%22exclude_type%22%3A%5B%22vBForum_PrivateMessage%22%5D%7D
                1. To do this, turn on Site Builder by clicking the Edit Site button.
                2. Click on Navigation Bar
                3. Click on the edit icon (pencil) for New Topics in the Sub Navigation Bar.
                4. Past the above code into the Target URL field.
                5. Click OK
                6. Click Save Changes for the Navigation Bar.
                7. Turn off Site Builder if you wish.
                are you sure Wayne? that's the target URL for New Topics and not for New Posts...

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                • Wayne Luke
                  vBulletin Technical Support Lead
                  • Aug 2000
                  • 73981

                  #9
                  Synonymous in vBulletin 5. It is New Topics on this site because people complained since the results are in a topic view. On my test site, it uses the same string and it is New Posts with the default language.

                  Translations provided by Google.

                  Wayne Luke
                  The Rabid Badger - a vBulletin Cloud demonstration site.
                  vBulletin 5 API

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                  • wbtd
                    Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 53

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Wayne Luke
                    Update your new topics link to this code:
                    Code:
                    search?searchJSON=%7B%22view%22%3A%22topic%22%2C%22unread_only%22%3A1%2C%22sort%22%3A%7B%22lastcontent%22%3A%22desc%22%7D%2C%22exclude_type%22%3A%5B%22vBForum_PrivateMessage%22%5D%7D
                    1. To do this, turn on Site Builder by clicking the Edit Site button.
                    2. Click on Navigation Bar
                    3. Click on the edit icon (pencil) for New Topics in the Sub Navigation Bar.
                    4. Past the above code into the Target URL field.
                    5. Click OK
                    6. Click Save Changes for the Navigation Bar.
                    7. Turn off Site Builder if you wish.
                    We are already using this code/link and it does not address the Last Posts not being reflected.

                    Right now the only thing that seems to be working is to Clear the System Cache ( Maintenance in the Admin CP)

                    Is there a way to adjust the cache time?

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                    • Wayne Luke
                      vBulletin Technical Support Lead
                      • Aug 2000
                      • 73981

                      #11
                      I was replying to post #6 which is a completely different thing than Last Posts.
                      Originally posted by wbtd
                      Can I get a response to this?

                      I would like to see "New Posts" updated in real time.

                      This feature is killing our discussions as people think there are no new posts when there is.

                      By Last Posts, I am guessing you mean the "Last Post" column in the forum and/or topic list. There is no value to change how this is cached that is exposed outside the system. It should update automatically every few minutes though.
                      Translations provided by Google.

                      Wayne Luke
                      The Rabid Badger - a vBulletin Cloud demonstration site.
                      vBulletin 5 API

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                      • wbtd
                        Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 53

                        #12
                        Well, New Posts is now New Topics (which is a completely different Search then what we used to have)

                        With New Posts we would get an automatic return when someone made a post in a thread.

                        With New Topics we get ??
                        And it doesn't automatically update every few minutes. That's the problem. It's hanging for hours and people think the discussion has died.

                        Again, the only thing I have found to "fix" it is to clear the system cache. I don;t want to have to keep manually doing that but it sounds like you are telling me this lag is built into the software because vbulletin decided it would improve our performance.

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                        • kavih
                          New Member
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 22
                          • 5.0.X

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Wayne Luke
                          By Last Posts, I am guessing you mean the "Last Post" column in the forum and/or topic list. There is no value to change how this is cached that is exposed outside the system. It should update automatically every few minutes though.
                          Wayne, we are having the same problem where it is taking much longer than "every few minutes." You mention that this is a cached set of data. So, would you please tell me where I can edit this caching system (in the source code)? Thanks. The goal is to shorten the cache lifetime.

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                          • Wayne Luke
                            vBulletin Technical Support Lead
                            • Aug 2000
                            • 73981

                            #14
                            Changing the code isn't something we support. I don't know where you would make those changes. However it appears you're using an older version of the software. Numerous changes have been made and caching has been enhanced in the last 8 releases.
                            Translations provided by Google.

                            Wayne Luke
                            The Rabid Badger - a vBulletin Cloud demonstration site.
                            vBulletin 5 API

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                            • kavih
                              New Member
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 22
                              • 5.0.X

                              #15
                              Okay.

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