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  • AlexanderT
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2003
    • 992

    #46
    Originally posted by digitalpoint
    I'm kind of curious why people think you can't do video streaming with PHP? PHP is just the language... you can build a video streaming app with any modern language.
    Exactly. I was rather perplexed about that earlier comment.

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    • Zachery
      Former vBulletin Support
      • Jul 2002
      • 59097

      #47
      Originally posted by digitalpoint
      Side note... YouTube was built on PHP when Google bought it (but they since transitioned it to Python).

      I'm kind of curious why people think you can't do video streaming with PHP? PHP is just the language... you can build a video streaming app with any modern language.
      I don't think it would be the ideal thing to do it in if you really want some serious scaling. Perhaps I'm wrong.

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      • Andy
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2002
        • 5886
        • 4.1.x

        #48
        Hosting videos on your own forum is easy using jwplayer.

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        • digitalpoint
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2004
          • 2573
          • 4.1.x

          #49
          Originally posted by Zachery
          I don't think it would be the ideal thing to do it in if you really want some serious scaling. Perhaps I'm wrong.
          PHP is pretty scalable when something is built properly with it (any bad developer can make *anything* not scale well on any platform).

          If you were going to build a video streaming application, what platform would you use (clearly you would not use PHP)?
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          • Guest

            #50
            Facebook seems to do ok with it. The bottleneck with video is the bandwidth and any resources needed processing the file. It doesn't have anything to do with a language's scalability.

            EDIT: Sorry, that's already been discussed

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            • Zachery
              Former vBulletin Support
              • Jul 2002
              • 59097

              #51
              Originally posted by digitalpoint
              PHP is pretty scalable when something is built properly with it (any bad developer can make *anything* not scale well on any platform).

              If you were going to build a video streaming application, what platform would you use (clearly you would not use PHP)?
              It is a good question, and one I don't have an answer for at this time. I was aware of past limitations (so I was told anyway) and that php was not the best way to do it. I haven't needed to sit down and task out a application to stream video.
              Finding out what the best way to go about it would be what I have to do first, and that's not something I have a ton of time for. Sorry for my misinformation

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              • digitalpoint
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2004
                • 2573
                • 4.1.x

                #52
                The bottleneck for any large video streaming application is going to be bandwidth to actually stream the videos and just raw CPU power to encode the uploaded videos. Neither of which are language/platform specific...
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                • Solitaire
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 124
                  • 4.0.x

                  #53
                  I've coded php video walls using youtube hosted videos. The problem isn't php, it's creating a software platform that will play the videos in browser, and allow users to upload. If vb can integrate such an application into their software, the page can be easily coded with php, and scalable.
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                  • Zachery
                    Former vBulletin Support
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 59097

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Solitaire
                    I've coded php video walls using youtube hosted videos. The problem isn't php, it's creating a software platform that will play the videos in browser, and allow users to upload. If vb can integrate such an application into their software, the page can be easily coded with php, and scalable.
                    Right, I was talking about all of the backend stuff, not just displaying an embedded video, that is very simple stuff.

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                    • soniceffect
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 938
                      • 4.2.X

                      #55
                      Originally posted by digitalpoint
                      Side note... YouTube was built on PHP when Google bought it (but they since transitioned it to Python).

                      I'm kind of curious why people think you can't do video streaming with PHP? PHP is just the language... you can build a video streaming app with any modern language.
                      Just think, on VB5 you'll be able to do a real sidenote

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                      • AlexanderT
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 992

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Zachery
                        Right, I was talking about all of the backend stuff, not just displaying an embedded video, that is very simple stuff.
                        Still off-topic (), but FWIW, let's not forget the possibility of calling external programs / embedding C extensions for compiling into PHP if you require to perform a CPU intensive backend task.

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                        • feldon23
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 11291
                          • 3.7.x

                          #57
                          I consider people complaining about borrowed features to be trolling.

                          Does vBulletin 5 have feature X? Is it implemented well? If the answer to those 2 questions is yes, get over yourself.

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                          • rexxxy
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 564
                            • 4.2.X

                            #58
                            Originally posted by feldon23
                            I consider people complaining about borrowed features to be trolling.

                            Does vBulletin 5 have feature X? Is it implemented well? If the answer to those 2 questions is yes, get over yourself.
                            What if its NO......lol I'm just asking lol

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                            • ShyGuy82
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 438

                              #59
                              Serving flash videos is not language specific. PHP still should load balance just fine (or any other language for that matter), it's more of a webserver scalability problem. And talking about facebook, they've started with MySql too...but then moved to Cassandra (although they still have some tiny pieces in MySql).
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                              • Wayne Luke
                                vBulletin Technical Support Lead
                                • Aug 2000
                                • 74111

                                #60
                                Originally posted by s.molinari
                                Facebook's main database needs are still being run over MySql AFAIK. Casandra isn't their main database engine.

                                Scott
                                If you read their developer blog, they are running something like Facebook-MySQL with a lot of customizations.
                                Translations provided by Google.

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