CMS and VBULLETIN 5

**Wayne Luke** · Fri 14 Sep '12, 9:32pm

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https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php/406710-vBulletin-5-Connect-Release-Plans

**goxy63** · Sun 16 Sep '12, 1:24am

That sucks

**DecNetPHase4** · Sun 16 Sep '12, 5:09am

Just saw the,"paid subscriptions" portion. I have many, and will need to wait until they can be ported over.

**soniceffect** · Sun 16 Sep '12, 5:27am

Originally posted by goxy63

That sucks

Depends on which way you look at it. Some would say thats a good thing as they are concentrating on one thing at once. Would you rather they rush?

**goxy63** · Sun 16 Sep '12, 8:28am

Originally posted by soniceffect

Depends on which way you look at it. Some would say thats a good thing as they are concentrating on one thing at once. Would you rather they rush?

Some of us have sites where CMS now is very important and with lots of content. For me CMS is crucial, if I cant move easily my content from old to new version than I am not interested in new version...
Product is a product, I think its not good to release new version without main feature's which we have in VB4.
You don't buy car without one wheel hoping that someone will fix it in few months.
So I will drive an old car and wait that my favorite car company fix everything and than I will purchase. Or if I dont like it maybe I will just keep old car for a long time.

**markwein** · Sun 16 Sep '12, 8:57am

My site (which is the online front end for my brick and mortar business) depends on both paid subscriptions and the CMS. If they are not included early enough or in properly working order then I won't be upgrading and I'll be looking for another solution when time comes to make changes. The idea that they can piecemeal the new version out and leave users hanging that bought into the suite and have actually based their site around the full suite leaves me to believe that 5.0. They should have spent more time finishing the entire product instead of releasing a half assed and unfinished piece of garbage (again) in another money grab, which is how this all feels to me.

And what happens to our google links if we were to upgrade an not have the CMS pages available? Suddenly does our site go down in the search rankings? It's looking more and more like I should have kept my content in Joomla.

**jerde** · Mon 17 Sep '12, 12:04pm

I'm willing to see how vB5 develops from the sidelines for awhile before I make any moves. What I'm most upset about is how they are already trying to charge money for something that is no where near complete.

**Gholsie** · Mon 17 Sep '12, 1:25pm

I think the idea behind the new release is to charge advanced funding to help finish the software. It's a risky game to make such a big change and spend all the money without knowing how many people will pay for it.... or if they will even like it. In one way, I like the idea of having some input into the development of their future products. In another way I am a bit disappointed that it's being released so soon with about half of the useable functionality. In either case, the team has been very open about their plans to release everything within a year.

$250 will get you all future software updates, so, this isn't a problem for me. However, I am more nervous about this new plug in module system and the lack of included modules like CMS and paid subscriptions. I have a strong suspicion these will be released at a later date as paid add-ons. I don't mind supporting the cause of my developers... however, I would be curious to know what features will be included in my $250 and which ones will be considered additional cost.

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**Wayne Luke** · Mon 17 Sep '12, 2:18pm

Originally posted by Gholsie

$250 will get you all future software updates, so, this isn't a problem for me. However, I am more nervous about this new plug in module system and the lack of included modules like CMS and paid subscriptions. I have a strong suspicion these will be released at a later date as paid add-ons. I don't mind supporting the cause of my developers... however, I would be curious to know what features will be included in my $250 and which ones will be considered additional cost.

Currently Mobile Suite and Forum Runner Branded Apps are the only features with an Additional cost. CMS, Paid Subscriptions and the other items mentioned in the Release Plan document are included in your purchase price.

**soniceffect** · Mon 17 Sep '12, 2:25pm

Originally posted by goxy63

Some of us have sites where CMS now is very important and with lots of content. For me CMS is crucial, if I cant move easily my content from old to new version than I am not interested in new version...
Product is a product, I think its not good to release new version without main feature's which we have in VB4.
You don't buy car without one wheel hoping that someone will fix it in few months.
So I will drive an old car and wait that my favorite car company fix everything and than I will purchase. Or if I dont like it maybe I will just keep old car for a long time.

Not for you no. For me however I would rather have the forum software without the CMS for now as I personally can live without it as many can. Especially those who didnt have suite.

Look at it this way. If the software does not suite you are present, then dont use it. Everyone upgrades when they are ready to do so, and for yourself that clearly wouldnt be an option until the CMS part of vbulletin 5 is released. At the end of the day we all want stable software, and the less they are concentrating on at once the easier it is to ensure each part is as stable as can be.

**Gholsie** · Mon 17 Sep '12, 3:47pm

Originally posted by Wayne Luke

Currently Mobile Suite and Forum Runner Branded Apps are the only features with an Additional cost. CMS, Paid Subscriptions and the other items mentioned in the Release Plan document are included in your purchase price.

Great, thank you Wayne! Curbs my concern and I'll be paying for the upgrade soon. Test site coming soon.

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**Azonaco** · Tue 18 Sep '12, 1:06pm

Originally posted by soniceffect

Not for you no. For me however I would rather have the forum software without the CMS for now as I personally can live without it as many can. Especially those who didnt have suite.

Look at it this way. If the software does not suite you are present, then dont use it. Everyone upgrades when they are ready to do so, and for yourself that clearly wouldnt be an option until the CMS part of vbulletin 5 is released. At the end of the day we all want stable software, and the less they are concentrating on at once the easier it is to ensure each part is as stable as can be.

Where's the rolling eyes smiley...

The reason why most of us have purchased and continue to purchase vbulletin is the continuance that it offers. A lot of us that have a client and user base are dependent on ALL of the preceding features carrying over.

**bf777** · Tue 18 Sep '12, 2:07pm

Originally posted by jerde

I'm willing to see how vB5 develops from the sidelines for awhile before I make any moves. What I'm most upset about is how they are already trying to charge money for something that is no where near complete.

Like VB4 years ago?

**Aitorcillo** · Thu 20 Sep '12, 12:49pm

Like other users, my forum depends on advanced content manager and professional (CMS), I hope they work on this in the new version. In my opinion the content manager is a differential characteristics with other platforms. You really need to work more in this area, to improve the version of Vbulletin 4.x.x

Regards

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