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  • IcEWoLF
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 928
    • 4.1.x

    Notification system overhaul.

    vB5 needs a better notification system, the current system is dreadful, we have requested several times in JIRA about improvements but nothing has been done about it.
    Add a second option up top next to messages that say Notifications, for example if someone likes your post, quotes you, tags you...you know the basic stuff, and it should have a drop down option to view the notifications like Facebook...it will make life easier. Also the messages option should allow you to dismiss the alerts by hovering over the alerts instead of having to go to a different page to dismiss them.

    I know this is not a show stopper, but your notification system right now is very counter intuitive and I can't imagine large scale communities even trying to put up with it.

    Lets brain storm in this thread and come up with some good ideas and hopefully someone from development will consider doing this in the near future.
    The 47 Ronin Gaming - www.47r-squad.com
  • TLMD
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 1766
    • 5.6.X

    #2
    I totally agree on this. Not only that very basic features are missing, the current notification system also has quite a few bugs. Several JIRAs about this already do exist and I hope that they will get more attention soon.

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    • IcEWoLF
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      Yup, I've voted countless jiras about this to be improved, yet nothing has been done...so annoying!
  • Miykichii
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 212
    • 3.6.x

    #3
    Originally posted by IcEWoLF
    vB5 needs a better notification system, the current system is dreadful, we have requested several times in JIRA about improvements but nothing has been done about it.
    Add a second option up top next to messages that say Notifications, for example if someone likes your post, quotes you, tags you...you know the basic stuff, and it should have a drop down option to view the notifications like Facebook...it will make life easier. Also the messages option should allow you to dismiss the alerts by hovering over the alerts instead of having to go to a different page to dismiss them.

    I know this is not a show stopper, but your notification system right now is very counter intuitive and I can't imagine large scale communities even trying to put up with it.

    Lets brain storm in this thread and come up with some good ideas and hopefully someone from development will consider doing this in the near future.
    I've made a Jira for this a while back http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12698

    If you like these ideas, vote for them! (:

    http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12406 (Blogs & Articles redesign)
    http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12379 (Group redesign)
    http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12337 (Members Feeds)
    http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12676 (Media tab & Album)
    http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12698 (Notification system)
    http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12663 (Members list redesign)

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    • sadiq6210
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2004
      • 379
      • 3.6.x

      #4
      Totally agree
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      • JamalFree
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 105
        • 4.2.X

        #5
        Originally posted by sadiq6210
        Totally agree


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        • IcEWoLF
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 928
          • 4.1.x

          #6
          Originally posted by Miykichii

          I've made a Jira for this a while back http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12698

          Thanks for bringing this up and linking it, lets all vote...and hope the vBulletin staff also tries to push this.

          This needs to be addressed asap...
          The 47 Ronin Gaming - www.47r-squad.com

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          • Merenguista
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 555
            • 5.3.x

            #7
            I totally

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            • IcEWoLF
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2008
              • 928
              • 4.1.x

              #8
              This should one of the top 5 things IB does.
              The 47 Ronin Gaming - www.47r-squad.com

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              • Mark.B
                vBulletin Support
                • Feb 2004
                • 24286
                • 6.0.X

                #9
                If I can be honest here - I think this JIRA would be much more likely to get progressed, if it contained screenshots from a default vBulletin installation.

                Katy has used her "header redesign" screenshots to produce this, which is simply going to confuse the issue as that is not going to get looked at at the same time as this.

                I would strongly recommend changing the screenshots so that they relate to a standard, default vBulletin installation and only include the changes actually being suggested in the JIRA.
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                • Miykichii
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 212
                  • 3.6.x

                  #10
                  Originally posted by Mark.B
                  If I can be honest here - I think this JIRA would be much more likely to get progressed, if it contained screenshots from a default vBulletin installation.

                  Katy has used her "header redesign" screenshots to produce this, which is simply going to confuse the issue as that is not going to get looked at at the same time as this.

                  I would strongly recommend changing the screenshots so that they relate to a standard, default vBulletin installation and only include the changes actually being suggested in the JIRA.
                  The header actually needs a redesign and the logo and the search bar needs to be relocated inside the header. VB dev team can apply the redesign they want, get creative, and show us the changes : ) may be even something better ? that shouldn't really be an excuse.. for not executing the idea.

                  Actually this jira has multiple features including a quick pm i.e., sending pms to your friends. Now Vb team just need to look at all these ideas and design and come up with something really nice, sleek and unique that many would love to see.
                  If you like these ideas, vote for them! (:

                  http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12406 (Blogs & Articles redesign)
                  http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12379 (Group redesign)
                  http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12337 (Members Feeds)
                  http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12676 (Media tab & Album)
                  http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12698 (Notification system)
                  http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12663 (Members list redesign)

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                  • Mark.B
                    vBulletin Support
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 24286
                    • 6.0.X

                    #11
                    Originally posted by Miykichii
                    The header actually needs a redesign and the logo and the search bar needs to be relocated inside the header. VB dev team can apply the redesign they want, get creative, and show us the changes : ) may be even something better ? that shouldn't really be an excuse..
                    That's not how the development process works.

                    A JIRA for improving notifications should focus on that feature only.
                    Any screenshots should be from the default product.
                    The dev team won't look at the existing screenshots and say "tell you what, let's do that as well". They are more likely to reject the whole idea on the grounds that the screenshots are confusing and don't relate to the current product.

                    I'm trying to provide some constructive advice on how best to get the requested notification improvements into the product. As things stand, with incorrect screenshots attached, you are seriously hampering any chances this has of making it into the product.

                    My honest advice: forget header redesigns and suchlike at this stage, it's not going to happen any time soon. Focus on the suggested improvements to the notifications system, and change the screenshots to match the product as it actually is, rather than what you'd like it to be. Otherwise this probably won't get very far.
                    MARK.B
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                    • Miykichii
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 212
                      • 3.6.x

                      #12
                      Well Mark, they can ignore the whole screenshots if they like and come up with their own design and implement the needed notification features, screenshots are a bonus. I like to keep things simple and not complicated. The dev team should use what they like from the proposed Jira. I am not changing my Jira.

                      We customers come and propose ideas, we want to see something unique and sleek, now if the dev team don't like it or want to apply different changes, they can do that, we aren't holding their hands. I can't rework with the current tiny gray header, it looks really bad design wise and adding features to it will feel bad and clutter. When i work on something, i usually work on it as a whole, so if let say on my site, i work on revamping my header + its features, i do the entire thing, not add half fix.

                      If Vb dev team finished the header properly, i am sure they won't see many complaining i.e., "The header looks like a mess" or "We don't like how it feels and look" then you would be spending more time because you applied half fix.

                      Also if i listen to your advise, then i am most probably will be asked to change my other jiras and i am not fond of doing this. The idea is as is with better overall improvements. Customers wants to see something that looks and feel nice. I can add two icons one for pm and another for notification on that small gray bar for the current vb design and call it notification, i won't like it, and customers won't like it and will say this doesn't look good and indeed it won't. So you will hear complaints instead of "wow this looks really nice now"
                      Last edited by Miykichii; Mon 7 Jul '14, 4:35am.
                      If you like these ideas, vote for them! (:

                      http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12406 (Blogs & Articles redesign)
                      http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12379 (Group redesign)
                      http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12337 (Members Feeds)
                      http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12676 (Media tab & Album)
                      http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12698 (Notification system)
                      http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12663 (Members list redesign)

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                      • Zachery
                        Former vBulletin Support
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 59097

                        #13
                        I'd follow marks advice if you want to make an impact on how we get things done

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                        • Miykichii
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 212
                          • 3.6.x

                          #14
                          Zachery, i can't work on something that is going to look ugly. Like i said, the dev team can disregard the screenshots and show us an updated version of the notification system but i know it won't look or feel good if that is how things are going to be done about it you can try and see customers feedback.

                          I am currently happy with my Vb 4.x, i want to see VB 5.x becoming greater and having all of vb 4.x features + more and that is why Vb 5.x needs to be pushed in that direction - applying half a fix won't make it look good. I am really done with this thread..., or else it will be back and forth forever.
                          If you like these ideas, vote for them! (:

                          http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12406 (Blogs & Articles redesign)
                          http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12379 (Group redesign)
                          http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12337 (Members Feeds)
                          http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12676 (Media tab & Album)
                          http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12698 (Notification system)
                          http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/VBV-12663 (Members list redesign)

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                          • Mark.B
                            vBulletin Support
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 24286
                            • 6.0.X

                            #15
                            Originally posted by Miykichii
                            Zachery, i can't work on something that is going to look ugly. Like i said, the dev team can disregard the screenshots and show us an updated version of the notification system
                            They won't do that. The screenshots need to match the current product, not your own visualisation of it.
                            It doesn't matter whether you, or I, or anyone else, think that's right or wrong, that's how it is.

                            We have two options:

                            1. Work within the system we have, in which case we can do our best to get things like this pushed though.
                            2. Refuse to work within the system we have, in which case the likely outcome will be - the notification system stays as it is.

                            If you're not willing to amend the JIRA entry, then there really isn't anything I can do to try and move this forwards.
                            MARK.B
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