How has your community adjusted to vBulletin 5.

[kellym]

There's definitely a few, just not many... here's some that my search engine spider have found:

mysql> SELECT domain, value AS version, DATE_FORMAT(FROM_UNIXTIME(date), '%M %e, %Y') AS found FROM misc_data WHERE name = 'vbulletin_version' AND value LIKE '5%' ORDER BY date DESC;
+-----------------------------+---------+---------------+
| domain | version | found |
+-----------------------------+---------+---------------+
| aviannation.com | 5.0.2 | June 24, 2013 |
| monsteraquarianetwork.com | 5.0.2 | June 24, 2013 |
| host.my.id | 5.0.2 | June 24, 2013 |
| spgame.net | 5.0.2 | June 23, 2013 |
| ftapanama.org | 5.0.2 | June 23, 2013 |
| sjwinfo.org | 5.0.2 | June 23, 2013 |
| bmwpower.ru | 5.0.0 | June 22, 2013 |
| pxb.net.br | 5.0.2 | June 21, 2013 |
| internethelpnigeria.com | 5.0.2 | June 20, 2013 |
| tipscontrol.com | 5.0.2 | June 19, 2013 |
| immigration-information.com | 5.0.2 | June 18, 2013 |
| pbxtech.info | 5.0.1 | June 17, 2013 |
| firstones.com | 5.0.2 | June 17, 2013 |
| merenguista.com | 5.0.2 | June 17, 2013 |
| mimarlikforumu.com | 5.0.1 | June 16, 2013 |
| redstickmoto.com | 5.0.2 | June 15, 2013 |
| airpost.cz | 5.0.0b10| June 14, 2013 |
| teamsrgaming.com | 5.0.1 | June 14, 2013 |
+-----------------------------+---------+---------------+
18 rows in set (0.00 sec)

Wow, I'm a little shocked to see my little site (sjwinfo.org) in the above list among the many thousands of vBulletin customers. I did the upgrade from 4.x to 5 recently without reading any of the feedback here... in fact I thought I was rather late to upgrade, thinking that vb5 was out for a while. If those domains above are among the few to upgrade, well, then I guess I'm an early adopter after all.

The upgrade process for my little site failed a couple of times in different places, but I must say the technical support from vBulletin has been top notch. In every case they were able to respond and help fix the issues within a few hours. And yes I've opened about half a dozen support issues so far, for various issues. Maybe even more tickets than that. All have been resolved so far. Various different people have responded to the issues and I haven't been able to stump them yet. The software does still feel like beta and it's a little immature, but the excellent support means I don't regret the upgrade at all. In fact I like being on the latest version with no customizations to worry about. By opening support tickets and finding known bugs I think it's helping them improve the software. I wasn't using many of the 4.x features so I don't feel like I've lost any. I like the new page editing features to change the layout of the site.

So far my registered users are finding some things a bit confusing, not knowing how to get into their profile to edit it, or how to find a summary of the latest posts. After pointing out the new format features and buttons no one has had a problem yet, I think any kind of change is tough for some people. Traffic on my site (which is about treating depression) how slowed over the last few years, so I don't have a busy forum like some of you out there do... so keep that in mind. I haven't received much more feedback than this so far...

Kelly

[rudedog1968]

You'll see speed improvements in vB5.0.(current_version+1)

[vskylabv]

We've upgraded on http://nightclubcity.com. 30k members with a few million posts.
Definitely not a good idea. The main issue is actually the speed of the site. The various other bugs throughout vB5 can be tolerated but the slowness is really what drives user activity down. This needs to be priority with the next version and I pray that it comes up with 5.0.3.

[digitalpoint]

I'm still trying to find all these vBulletin 5 forums in the wild myself. A good search for terms like

"Powered by vBulletin™ Version 5.0.2"
"Powered by vBulletin™ Version 5.0.1"
"Powered by vBulletin™ Version 5."



Aren't really returning many results. The forums that are running it all have disclaimer messages to them, and some even claiming loss of forum data.

Safe to assume vBulletin 5 really is a complete and utter failure. Wonder how long it will take for someone from IB/vB to come out and admit this totally missed it's mark.

There's definitely a few, just not many... here's some that my search engine spider have found:

mysql> SELECT domain, value AS version, DATE_FORMAT(FROM_UNIXTIME(date), '%M %e, %Y') AS found FROM misc_data WHERE name = 'vbulletin_version' AND value LIKE '5%' ORDER BY date DESC;
+-----------------------------+---------+---------------+
| domain                      | version | found         |
+-----------------------------+---------+---------------+
| aviannation.com             | 5.0.2   | June 24, 2013 |
| monsteraquarianetwork.com   | 5.0.2   | June 24, 2013 |
| host.my.id                  | 5.0.2   | June 24, 2013 |
| spgame.net                  | 5.0.2   | June 23, 2013 |
| ftapanama.org               | 5.0.2   | June 23, 2013 |
| sjwinfo.org                 | 5.0.2   | June 23, 2013 |
| bmwpower.ru                 | 5.0.0   | June 22, 2013 |
| pxb.net.br                  | 5.0.2   | June 21, 2013 |
| internethelpnigeria.com     | 5.0.2   | June 20, 2013 |
| tipscontrol.com             | 5.0.2   | June 19, 2013 |
| immigration-information.com | 5.0.2   | June 18, 2013 |
| pbxtech.info                | 5.0.1   | June 17, 2013 |
| firstones.com               | 5.0.2   | June 17, 2013 |
| merenguista.com             | 5.0.2   | June 17, 2013 |
| mimarlikforumu.com          | 5.0.1   | June 16, 2013 |
| redstickmoto.com            | 5.0.2   | June 15, 2013 |
| airpost.cz                  | 5.0.0b10| June 14, 2013 |
| teamsrgaming.com            | 5.0.1   | June 14, 2013 |
+-----------------------------+---------+---------------+
18 rows in set (0.00 sec)

If you scroll to the bottom of this page, you can see the vBulletin sites using 5.0.x is about 0.5%:

https://tools.digitalpoint.com/cookie-search

[IcEWoLF]

LOL, how about, my community will boot me if I ever considered upgrading to vBulletin 5...?

[DemOnstar]

the trusted ones in my community were all approached with my thought process before i purchased the 5.0 software. they were 100% in favor of the new direction, and were impressed with what vB was claiming that 5.0 brought to the table.

Same here. 100% in favour of the new direction and certainly impressed with what was claimed....

the question posed is really ill-timed, because the 5.0 software doesnt work at this time, so adjusting now would be a mistake. our eyes remain focused on what will be....not what is... and they still like what they see so far.

On a not too recent survey in Italy, I stumbled across a model of car I had never seen before. It was gleaming and immaculate. Probably some kind of concept car that wasn't yet available. I was very impressed with what I saw, so impressed infact that I had to go beyond the enclosure to get a closer look.

It had leather seats, wooden trim and a most impressive walnut dashboard. All the things a vintage model had only more so and encased in a modern, exquisite wrapper.

Excellent I cried, let me take a closer look I asked the guy standing over by the enclosure beckoning me to get away from the car.. I offered the man a sum of Euro's to keep quiet and let me inspect further. He sniggered, took the bribe and agreed. With my camera in hand I set out to get some pictures.
I was dumbfounded with this automobile.
I got most of the pictures I wanted except for one. The obvious one..... When I lifted the hood on this beast, there was nothing there.


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[rudedog1968]

rhens how long are you and your forum members willing to wait?

What vB was claiming would be added to vB4 was retracted because the VP, yes the VP, was not authorized to speak. I really don't think you'll see all those promised features (from the youtube videos and things that staff say "will be added soon" or "released in future releases") in at least another year and a half too two years.

[rhens]

the trusted ones in my community were all approached with my thought process before i purchased the 5.0 software. they were 100% in favor of the new direction, and were impressed with what vB was claiming that 5.0 brought to the table. the question posed is really ill-timed, because the 5.0 software doesnt work at this time, so adjusting now would be a mistake. our eyes remain focused on what will be....not what is... and they still like what they see so far.

[Grotesque]

I didn't used to be so negative by the way guys. Although I just don't see this software going anywhere anymore.

[Grotesque]

In general, they love the look and feel of vb5. However they dislike it in the way the software offers features plus the ton of bugs lurking around.. We have been considering abandoning vb5 and vbulletin alltogether actually since a week now.

Do they love the look and feel of vB5 because of the underlying code/features or because of the theme? This could save forum owners $$$ by just changing their forum theme to mimic vB5. You would then just need to disable or break a bunch of other features and boom. You have something that looks like vB5 but runs much better for a lot less money.

Very true mate! They do indeed love the looks of the software. Not the code though, that is certainly a bloody mess. We might actually abandon IB due the latest events and my personal trust in the company being drained.

[DemOnstar]

Maybe you should change your user name to ProVB4Forums.....?.

[In Omnibus]

I don't understand that. Surely the software is functionally identical whether it's applied as an upgrade or used to start a new installation?

No, it's not. I had 300+ RSS feeds on my vB4 site. I had a fully customized CMS landing page on my vB4 site. I had drop-down menus rather than a ridiculously long scrolling forums index on my vB4 site. I had custom icons, markers, and other graphics that didn't involve editing sprites.

There isn't much sense in upgrading when there is little to no resemblance between the sites after the upgrade.

[rudedog1968]

In general, they love the look and feel of vb5. However they dislike it in the way the software offers features plus the ton of bugs lurking around.. We have been considering abandoning vb5 and vbulletin alltogether actually since a week now.

Do they love the look and feel of vB5 because of the underlying code/features or because of the theme? This could save forum owners $$$ by just changing their forum theme to mimic vB5. You would then just need to disable or break a bunch of other features and boom. You have something that looks like vB5 but runs much better for a lot less money.

[Grotesque]

In general, they love the look and feel of vb5. However they dislike it in the way the software offers features plus the ton of bugs lurking around.. We have been considering abandoning vb5 and vbulletin alltogether actually since a week now.

[DemOnstar]

Safe to assume vBulletin 5 really is a complete and utter failure. Wonder how long it will take for someone from IB/vB to come out and admit this totally missed it's mark.

Well it isn't doing what it was promised to do. As far as it being a complete failure, it just isn't complete.

It is probably best to forget IB as they have already forgot about you.