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now im not gunna knock the system cuz im sure it took a long time to code and get it all together and working right. but to import is a real big hassle.
now like prolly hundreds of us here, we have been with vbulletin boards for a long time, and i have multiple boards i admin and whatever, but 1 board that i baby. and now, im wanting to bring the board from 3.0.8 to 3.5.0 and join the fun. but its giving me problems with a upgrade with use of the new hacks on vb.org and the updates they have. most of the hacks arent coming with 3.0.x uninstall options int he new 3.5.x series, so the process is converting back to 3.0.x, then either impex'n to a fresh copy or uninstalling every single hack manually. well thats a big task for boards heavily hacked up like mine and im sure tons more.
the import system...very helpful. BUT it is very complicated @ the same time. im not a skilled coder, and i dont understand sometimes the instructions. i do ask for help and get the answer but its just more task and time consuming. i feel, and im sure more do, that the import system needs a more user/admin friendly feel. and heres what i mean:
i still dont comprehend the meaning of importid's
why is there no option to import user permissions for forums?
why does the forum NEED to be online when doing the import? this, for me, causes concern. its no big deal really, but its like um why? in my situation, i can just create another DB, backup the original, copy all the files in 1 folder to another, boom bam boom and import with anything getting damaged, and if i have a problem just import the db, delete file, bring back folder, lalalalala...so on. but why does the forum need 2 be offline?
after im done importing the users and usergroups, there is a few problems.
1: when i goto mass move the users, and select the usergroup to pull them from, then it goes to a new page with a dropdown where im suppose to place them...well the "oroginal" or new 350 usergroups arent in that list. only the custom usergroups will be listed. i have to manually, 1 by 1, select each user, change their usergroup and save them. the only group this is good for is the registered users group, cuz i can delete that custom usergroup and they fall back into the same place.
2: usergroup permissions. these should really be pulled from the "source" settings, especially being a prior vbulletin board. maybe somehow make it work like importing usergroup settings for usergroup id's to fit forumid's? i dunno, thats what u guys do best though.
attachments and avatars and profilepics is somewhat confusing. especially setting the avatars settings. profile pics and avatars should be seperate from eachother and not in the same category.
this is what makes vbulletin different from the rest of the crummy boards out, cuz they categorize everything and make it very easy to work around with. but im seeing that there needs to be some changes in this 350 layout. and these are my ideas for the layout and the impex.
in a nut shell, impex needs some attention. the options need a broader explination of things, more on a 4th grade level instead of a college professor level, and the options need to be clarified and maybe some more options thrown in there. its just not fair to have to go through a huge task of work to upgrade a forum. sucks but thats the consequence when u hack the hell out of a board for such a long time i guess
now like prolly hundreds of us here, we have been with vbulletin boards for a long time, and i have multiple boards i admin and whatever, but 1 board that i baby. and now, im wanting to bring the board from 3.0.8 to 3.5.0 and join the fun. but its giving me problems with a upgrade with use of the new hacks on vb.org and the updates they have. most of the hacks arent coming with 3.0.x uninstall options int he new 3.5.x series, so the process is converting back to 3.0.x, then either impex'n to a fresh copy or uninstalling every single hack manually. well thats a big task for boards heavily hacked up like mine and im sure tons more.
the import system...very helpful. BUT it is very complicated @ the same time. im not a skilled coder, and i dont understand sometimes the instructions. i do ask for help and get the answer but its just more task and time consuming. i feel, and im sure more do, that the import system needs a more user/admin friendly feel. and heres what i mean:
i still dont comprehend the meaning of importid's
why is there no option to import user permissions for forums?
why does the forum NEED to be online when doing the import? this, for me, causes concern. its no big deal really, but its like um why? in my situation, i can just create another DB, backup the original, copy all the files in 1 folder to another, boom bam boom and import with anything getting damaged, and if i have a problem just import the db, delete file, bring back folder, lalalalala...so on. but why does the forum need 2 be offline?
after im done importing the users and usergroups, there is a few problems.
1: when i goto mass move the users, and select the usergroup to pull them from, then it goes to a new page with a dropdown where im suppose to place them...well the "oroginal" or new 350 usergroups arent in that list. only the custom usergroups will be listed. i have to manually, 1 by 1, select each user, change their usergroup and save them. the only group this is good for is the registered users group, cuz i can delete that custom usergroup and they fall back into the same place.
2: usergroup permissions. these should really be pulled from the "source" settings, especially being a prior vbulletin board. maybe somehow make it work like importing usergroup settings for usergroup id's to fit forumid's? i dunno, thats what u guys do best though.
attachments and avatars and profilepics is somewhat confusing. especially setting the avatars settings. profile pics and avatars should be seperate from eachother and not in the same category.
this is what makes vbulletin different from the rest of the crummy boards out, cuz they categorize everything and make it very easy to work around with. but im seeing that there needs to be some changes in this 350 layout. and these are my ideas for the layout and the impex.
in a nut shell, impex needs some attention. the options need a broader explination of things, more on a 4th grade level instead of a college professor level, and the options need to be clarified and maybe some more options thrown in there. its just not fair to have to go through a huge task of work to upgrade a forum. sucks but thats the consequence when u hack the hell out of a board for such a long time i guess
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