I'm running vb 4.2.0pl2 and it seems to be working in most respects. I've seen that an update was finally released and I can only wonder whether it's worth the effort. Unless there is some significant fixes, it doesn't seem to upgrade what isn't completely broken and cause additional problems, some of which I see others are experiencing. At this point, I'm leaning towards not upgrading since it doesn't appear critical (e.g. fixing vulnerabilities) or adding anything new (long overdue VB 4 CMS). Thanks for all opinions.
Is the upgrade from 4.2pl2 to 4.2.1 worth the effort?
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It is mostly a collection of bug fixes introduced in 4.2.0 as a whole, there are some improvements to the navbar manager as well. I would suggest updating to PL3 as well, just to be on the safe side if nothing else.Comment
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Thanks guys - by any chance, was Vb 4 upgraded to be compatible with PHP 5.4? As 5.3 is now history, this would seem to be important. I've also just discovered what may be a double posting problem in VB 4 with PHP 5.4 and see others have had the same problem.Comment
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PHP 5.4 compatibility has not yet been added to vB4, but it is planned to do so.MARK.B
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http://php.net/releases/5_3_20.php - It was announced in 2012 that in March 2013, it would be officially pronounced that PHP 5.3 was end of life. PHP 5.4 is the only supported version of PHP. On my server, even the weakest and free open source scripts I have are 5.4 compatible and don't contain any show stopping problems. I've now got a double posting error which apparently is the cause. I'm stuck. What's the solution Internet brands and vBulletin has? Can you assist?Comment
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If you suppress notices, and use ImageMagick instead of GD, you should be able to run vBulletin 4.x on php 5.4 okay, but you might still run into issues. At this time, we don't have another answer other than soon, and no matter how many times, or ways you ask. That is the only answer we have.Comment
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I did a search. Mark, I'm not holding you personally responsible but apparently you mentioned that the Internet Brands and vBulletin executive management knew about the vBulletin 4 compatibility problems over one year ago! There is a statement that it is "planned" - what is that supposed to mean? I'm in a bad spot here, as are other vBulletin 4 owners. If vBulletin 4 causes some serious errors such as the double posting, I don't know how the company could say anything other than they are committing all hands on deck to fixing show stopping bugs like this one. I need some guidance here as I've got a problem now that the entire server is converted to php 5.4 and vBulletin seemed to work and I couldn't imagine it wouldn't. Thanks.
Is there any point in waiting? Is it planned as an update within the next months until php 5.3 gets deprecated and removed from the repos?
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We have no date but it is definitely planned.👍 1Comment
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vBulletin 4.2.xwill be made compatible with PHP 5,4,x. We all would have preferred it happened sooner but it didn't. I hope we can make an announcement on this soon but we can't yet.
While I fully agree PHP 5,4 support is overdue it is also not "the end of the world." The vast majority of web hosts still have PHP 5.2 and 5.3 available whether officially EOL or not.
Here are current usage statistics- http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/pl-php/5/all
Only 5.1 % of PHP5 users use PHP 5.4.x The majority of them I suspect use it by choice.
Yes, I want PHP 5.4 compatibility and I wanted it a year ago, but we have to wait a little longer.Comment
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Good heavens. In the other post I found, this double posting issue was identified in April of 2012!!! I didn't even realize that the responses were a year later. It looks like vBulletin decision makers simply decided not to bother making its flagship forum product compatible with PHP 5.4, the only supported version of PHP. I'm posting all this here to provide as much ammunition to the good members of staff to march right into the door of executive management and give them no excuse but to do something about this problem or really lose all respectability with regard to the support of its vbulletin forum product. Thanks guys... I know you want to do the right thing but now the product has become a serious liability and management has to act now and speak up.
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vBulletin 4.2.xwill be made compatible with PHP 5,4,x. We all would have preferred it happened sooner but it didn't. I hope we can make an announcement on this soon but we can't yet. While I fully agree PHP 5,4 support is overdue it is also not "the end of the world." The vast majority of web hosts still have PHP 5.2 and 5.3 available whether officially EOL or not.
Here are current usage statistics- http://w3techs.com/technologies/details/pl-php/5/all
Only 5.1 % of PHP5 users use PHP 5.4.x The majority of them I suspect use it by choice.
Yes, I want PHP 5.4 compatibility and I wanted it a year ago, but we have to wait a little longer.
If you want to talk statistics - I'm willing to wager that a higher percentage of PHP users upgraded to version 5.4 than vBulletin v2-v4 users upgraded to vB 5. But that's not the point. PHP 5.3 is unsupported. It's end of life. One could say that it's not the end of the world to switch to another forum software either, is it? From what I know, virtually all of them are PHP 5.4 compatible... but the most powerful forum software in the world isn't?
Here's what happened IMHO: Since vBulletin Solutions decided that it wasn't getting any more money in maintenance fees from the customers, management decided that they simply didn't care to honor those commitments. Years ago customers predicted this would happen and now our worst fears have been realized. All of us paid Internet Brands for maintenance to cover situations just like this one. As you know, if you're on a shared server you're probably out of luck as the host isn't going to roll back PHP just because you need it for your vBulletin forum in spite of the needs of other customers and hosting operations. And if you have other scripts that are updated, then vBulletin 4 creates a liability by forcing all your scripts to roll back to prior and potentially vulnerable versions.
Time is money. Let me know when Internet Brands is going to lend every customer staff to roll back its servers and all their software to PHP 5.3, providing fixes as we need them, as well as upgrading them again for PHP 5.4 when Internet Brands decides it wants to get around to updating the software. This is inexcusable. It's the epitome of unprofessional, irresponsible and breach of a maintenance agreement.Comment
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Good heavens. In the other post I found, this double posting issue was identified in April of 2012!!! I didn't even realize that the responses were a year later. It looks like vBulletin decision makers simply decided not to bother making its flagship forum product compatible with PHP 5.4, the only supported version of PHP. I'm posting all this here to provide as much ammunition to the good members of staff to march right into the door of executive management and give them no excuse but to do something about this problem or really lose all respectability with regard to the support of its vbulletin forum product. Thanks guys... I know you want to do the right thing but now the product has become a serious liability and management has to act now and speak up.
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I already have Xenforo and Invision Power Board and have been planning migrations for some time. If management doesn't have an answer to these issues quickly then the end of the vBulletin product line will come even more swiftly than I anticipated. These are not the kinds of errors that you can simply walk away from without a major, long term damaging blow to the reputation of the brand. I've noticed that the development team is currently working on vBulletin 3.8 -- Yes, the long dead version that is unsuported and which the majority of Internet Brands websites still uses from my understanding. http://tracker.vbulletin.com/browse/...rversion/10823Comment
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The only thing done recently for 3.8.8 was to release an unsupported beta which does have support for PHP 5.4.
Which form of human verification has been cracked on vBulletin 4/5 ?
Image Verification? I've been requesting it be removed for years, its more trouble for real users than bots. Though this is a huge cat/mouse game, a lot of time and effort was spent trying to get this working better, only for it to be defeated within weeks of a release, if that.
We added reCapcha: this got insanely popular insanely quickly, which meant it had wide spread use, it was also picked up by google and is a google product. This basically means its a high value target. Their group plays the same cat/mouse game that we used to play with the bot hackers. It has waves of good and bad.
Q&A is the strongest built in check, if you take the time to configure it, and have a large base of questions. Because it should be CUSTOM to your site, which means hopefully no one else has the same questions. Enough Q&A and the people won't waste their time with your site since they can't program a massive attack agasint it. But if you use silly questions like 1+1 or what color is the sky, you'll get bots. Math, unless crazy hard, or complex, and or something google/WRA can't spit out an answer for, is useless.
There are also antispam scanners intergrated with typepad+ and akismit, these don't stop signups, but should stop posts/blogs/topics from getting into the software, most of the time.
There are third party addons too.Last edited by Zachery; Mon 29 Jul '13, 11:01pm.Comment
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Which form of human verification has been cracked on vBulletin 4/5 ?
Q&A is the strongest built in check, if you take the time to configure it, and have a large base of questions. Because it should be CUSTOM to your site, which means hopefully no one else has the same questions. Enough Q&A and the people won't waste their time with your site since they can't program a massive attack agasint it. But if you use silly questions like 1+1 or what color is the sky, you'll get bots. Math, unless crazy hard, or complex, and or something google/WRA can't spit out an answer for, is useless.Comment
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