[Forum] What do you mean by revert templates?? I am trying to upgrade my forum to 4.1.5 now.

[benative]

I am kind of confused..
so here is my understanding of how to upgrade.
overwrite all the files in upload folder.
and run upgrade.php in install directory... done..

but what about my modified templates?? will the modifications be lost??
is that why we are required to revert?

[FlashJim]

I need to know the same thing. It's not 100% clear.

[Trevor Hannant]

The upgrader will attempt to merge template changes into the customised templates. If it can't make the merge successfully, you will need to address this yourself. Please see this Blog post for more:

https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/entry.php/2350-vB-4.0-Template-Merging-and-3-Way-Comparison

If you've any concerns about this, always test first (in fact, always test first any way!):

https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/content.php?225-Creating-A-Test-Site

[Chips]

The upgrade to 4.1.5 has a TON of template conflicts, they are not conflicts with changes I made to my templates but ones that vB 4.1.2 did.

Your Custom Template Last Edited in vBulletin 4.1.2 by xiaoyu

There are 40 or so conflicts, you would think that the tech staff would have corrected this pre-release of 4.1.5. The process of correcting/reverting is a time waster for users. Hope this was an isolated incident not to be repeated in future upgrades. What a PIA this upgrade is.

BTW, these conflicts are all in the mobile style template.

[The Vegan Forum]

I also had 40+ templates to revert in the mobile style - and the mobile style has never been modified on our site. If all it takes for an admin to fix this is to click on "Revert" 40 times, shouldn't the software be able to do that as well?

[Zachery]

Ignore the mobile style completely, it does not have a master style.

[The Vegan Forum]

What does that mean? Do you mean ignore all those 40+ messages (and if so, how to get rid of them)?

[Rik Brown]

I never understood the usage of the word "revert" when managing templates. Its very confusing since it suggests one is "going back" to an older template when what the program actually does is "go forward" to use the newest vBulletin stock template. [Could this possibly be a difference in British English vs. American English?]

Instead of "reverting," the program "replaces" (overwrites) the prior template with the latest stock vBulletin template and one loses any prior custom edits in the process.

So, when I upgrade, if the template in question has any custom edits in it, I normally cut and paste it into a text editor and let the program overwrite (revert per vb terminology) my old custom template with the latest stock version of the template. Then I go back and make any necessary custom edits.

If I make a big mistake, then I actually do REVERT to the prior template with a cut & paste from the saved version in my text editor.

At least, that's my understanding of how it works. -- Rik

[Zachery]

Revert > Goes back to the stock vBulletin default template that we released.

A "Master STyle" is a style that holds master records, it keeps stock versions of the templates.
The mobile style is a completely custom style without a master style, just like any third party style.
If the mobile style templates are out of date, they can be ignored.

[The Vegan Forum]

But again - how do we get rid of warnings about templates that need to be updated or reverted?

[Zachery]

Save them (after making changes, if required), or revert them.

[FlashJim]

Save them (after making changes, if required), revert them.

I thought if you went into edit, then saved (keeping merged changed) ... that was different than reverting to the stock VB supplied version.

[Zachery]

Should be an or revert them, fingers moving faster than me. Sorry

[polle]

So to be completely clear here this is how it works.

Click revert.
- That will erase everything and use the latest file we just uploaded with no modifications at all. (just the original newest file)
- Now we have to go to the file, paste/edit our modifications to it and save.

Correct ?

[Rik Brown]

Revert > Goes back to the stock vBulletin default template that we released.

A "Master STyle" is a style that holds master records, it keeps stock versions of the templates.
The mobile style is a completely custom style without a master style, just like any third party style.
If the mobile style templates are out of date, they can be ignored.

See, that's exactly the problem many of us have with the word "revert" per my message #8 above. How can you "revert" to something you have never had such as the latest release of the template?

Origin:
1250–1300; Middle English reverten (< Old French revertir ) < Latin revertere to turn back, equivalent to re- re- + vertere to turn; see verse

If it is new, it ain't reverting as far as I'm concerned.

However, after years of using vBulletin I just ignore the word revert and think in my mind that they mean "convert to the latest template and lose your edits."

-- Rik