Forum issue after upgrade (3.8.9)

[crashfab]

So I will admit I am not "real" savy with VBB (know enough to be dangerouse).

In any case due to my host removing older php versions I had to update to 3.8.9.

Now I have a bunch of templates that I need to correct which is the norm from what I have seen from past upgrades but this one has me miffed. I have a bunch of plugins/products installed. I am currently running the forum on default/unmodified templates.

So whats happening I am unable to post or even use emoticons. I type something and hit send and get

The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 4 characters.

with a blank reply box.

I have disabled all the products and plugins and still an issue.

I am miffed...

[motd2]

Only you have this problem, or all users?