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  • datrue_canadian
    New Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 6
    • 3.8.x

    vB 3.8.7 and Facebook Connect

    Will the new Beta version have Facebook connect out of the box? I seriously think it should, especially since many people are still using the 3.8.6 versions for their appearance and functionality.

    The majority of the code is already done if im not mistaken (taken from other versions), so I think it would only make sense to add it into the newest of the 3.8 series. no?
  • Lynne
    Former vBulletin Support
    • Oct 2004
    • 26255

    #2
    No, it will not. It was strickly bug fixes that went into 3.8.7

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    • Garamond
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2004
      • 296
      • 3.8.x

      #3
      Thumbs down, Lynne. Thumbs down. Another proof that vBulletin doesn't want to do anything with the 3.8 series anymore - even if it's supported. It's "ages" since the last update for the 3.8 users and still nothing.

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      • Mark.B
        vBulletin Support
        • Feb 2004
        • 24286
        • 6.0.X

        #4
        No new features will be added to the 3.8 and nor should they be...it has now been superseded by 4.x.
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        • Lynne
          Former vBulletin Support
          • Oct 2004
          • 26255

          #5
          Originally posted by Garamond
          Thumbs down, Lynne. Thumbs down. Another proof that vBulletin doesn't want to do anything with the 3.8 series anymore - even if it's supported. It's "ages" since the last update for the 3.8 users and still nothing.
          They don't want to do anything with the 3.8 series any longer. As soon as they went to 4.0, they basically set 3.8 up to be security and bug fixes only. Now they are on 4.1. They have no plans to do further development on 3.8.

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          • Mark.B
            vBulletin Support
            • Feb 2004
            • 24286
            • 6.0.X

            #6
            Not sure why anyone would still use 3.8 for its functionality...since 4.1.1 contains everything that was in 3.8.6 and more.

            Appearance? The default style is ok, the refined stylevars don't take long to learn and give you much greater control over the appearance and colours of the site.
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            • smiggy
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 175
              • 3.8.x

              #7
              Originally posted by Lynne
              No, it will not. It was strickly bug fixes that went into 3.8.7
              When, is it going to be released, I mean as stable.

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              • Markro
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2004
                • 105
                • 3.0.3

                #8
                Originally posted by Mark.B
                Not sure why anyone would still use 3.8 for its functionality...since 4.1.1 contains everything that was in 3.8.6 and more.

                Appearance? The default style is ok, the refined stylevars don't take long to learn and give you much greater control over the appearance and colours of the site.
                No offense, but 4.x is crap. 3.x series is where it's at.

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                • Mark.B
                  vBulletin Support
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 24286
                  • 6.0.X

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Markro
                  No offense, but 4.x is crap. 3.x series is where it's at.
                  In your opinion. Not in the opinion of everyone, you will notice.
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                  • datrue_canadian
                    New Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 6
                    • 3.8.x

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Markro
                    No offense, but 4.x is crap. 3.x series is where it's at.
                    This.

                    Originally posted by Mark.B
                    In your opinion. Not in the opinion of everyone, you will notice.
                    i wish 4.x had the appearance of 3.8.6 and the features of 4.x. So unfortunately, both versions are lacking IN MY OPINION. It is also extremely hard to find a custom or even pre-made skin for the 4.x series. Yet finding one for the 3.x series is much easier. I wonder why that is?

                    Here's hoping for a strong 5.x whenever it gets released. I have tried using 4.x as a software for my site before, but found it too hard to get it customized the way i wanted it. all of the experts have left and moved over to other companies. Such as IPB and Xenforo. they both have the Facebook features and designers find them much easier to skin for as well. Skinning is something i have never grasped, so I am a little SOL, which is why I asked.

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                    • Mark.B
                      vBulletin Support
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 24286
                      • 6.0.X

                      #11
                      Originally posted by datrue_canadian
                      This.



                      i wish 4.x had the appearance of 3.8.6 and the features of 4.x. So unfortunately, both versions are lacking IN MY OPINION. It is also extremely hard to find a custom or even pre-made skin for the 4.x series. Yet finding one for the 3.x series is much easier. I wonder why that is?

                      Here's hoping for a strong 5.x whenever it gets released. I have tried using 4.x as a software for my site before, but found it too hard to get it customized the way i wanted it. all of the experts have left and moved over to other companies. Such as IPB and Xenforo. they both have the Facebook features and designers find them much easier to skin for as well. Skinning is something i have never grasped, so I am a little SOL, which is why I asked.
                      I have to ask:

                      1) Do you seriously think the old vb3 design from 2004 is better for the modern age than vB4's?

                      vB4's needs some work to smarten it up but my site for instance looks vastly superior in 4 than it did in 3, in fact that was one factor in deciding to upgrade. I loved the vB3 style but it is just soooo dated in its default form.

                      2) And what features from vb3 are not present in vb4 now?
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                      • Markro
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 105
                        • 3.0.3

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Mark.B
                        I have to ask:

                        1) Do you seriously think the old vb3 design from 2004 is better for the modern age than vB4's?

                        vB4's needs some work to smarten it up but my site for instance looks vastly superior in 4 than it did in 3, in fact that was one factor in deciding to upgrade. I loved the vB3 style but it is just soooo dated in its default form.

                        2) And what features from vb3 are not present in vb4 now?
                        If you consider a wide range of bugs a "feature", possibly that could be one that is in vb4 and not vb3.

                        Anyway, it's a pointless argument, we both have a difference of opinion and neither of us are going to change our views. Lets agree to disagree.

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                        • Trevor Hannant
                          vBulletin Support
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 24325
                          • 5.7.X

                          #13
                          And what bugs make vB4 unusable for you?
                          Vote for:

                          - Admin Settable Paid Subscription Reminder Timeframe (vB6)
                          - Add Admin ability to auto-subscribe users to specific channel(s) (vB6)

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                          • Mark.B
                            vBulletin Support
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 24286
                            • 6.0.X

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Markro
                            If you consider a wide range of bugs a "feature", possibly that could be one that is in vb4 and not vb3.
                            Well I run a live site with plenty of activity. I use 4.0.8. I couldn't identify one single bug that actually impacts anybody's use of the site.

                            Of course there are some bugs but unless you count IPv6 support (which also affects vB3) I can't think of anything in forums or blogs that could potentially impact a live site. And technically lack of IPv6 support isn't a bug, it's a feature request.
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                            • creativepart
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 293
                              • 3.8.x

                              #15
                              Here's something that VB seems to have totally forgotten. Many of us have very large forums that have been on VB for a long-time. My members would absolutely revolt if I changed my largest forums from 3.8 to 4.X. Too many changes -- not too mention the pain of trying to make 4.1 even look like my 3.8 version.

                              I have 65,000 members and they complain loudly for even the slightest change. 4.X has changes around every corner.

                              I run 6 forums. 5 of them on 3.7 and 3.8. and one on 4.1. The 4.1 forum is my newest and I stared it on 4.1. So, I'm very familiar with 4.1 and all it offers.

                              I don't think that I will ever change my largest and oldest forum to 4.1 and I worry what that will mean. But I guarantee you that my users would seriously revolt if they suddenly had to deal with 4.X. Just the 4.X attachment system alone would be a nightmare for my members.

                              I know plenty of folks that bash VB, and I tend to hold my criticism but honestly it's a train wreck what the developers have done -- when seen in the light of a forum owner that has been running VB for years. Even IB hasn't updated 90% of their Forums -- some are even on 3.6 for goodness sakes.

                              If VB sat down and looked at it with an open mind they'd see that 4.X may work fine for new installs, but it's a deal killer for older established forums. Why be so pigheaded and stubborn about this? Keep offering and developing both versions -- 3.X and 4.X -- side by side and let the market decide.

                              As it is, if I was going to update my older forums to 4.X I'd consider changing to IPB or XF first -- I mean if I'm going to incite a user revolt with 4.X I might as well just go all the way and dump VB while I'm at it.

                              This issue is ruining VB and they should be wise enough to realize this.

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