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  • ljianyih
    Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 73

    URL without www

    Hi,

    We've recently bought a new vBulletin cloud forum Worlds of Sports, and the url displayed is www.worldsofsports.com , can we have the default domain name url to be worldsofsports.com without the www in front? Thanks for the help.
  • Zachery
    Former vBulletin Support
    • Jul 2002
    • 59097

    #2
    No, the cloud software cannot be run on a root domain because of the way the internet works. You must have SOMETHING before the root domain: www.domain.com x.domain.com forum.domain.com, etc. You can't use http://domain.com

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    • ljianyih
      Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 73

      #3
      So does that means vBulletin Cloud doesn't have registered name servers for me to transfer my domain DNS to the VB cloud hosting (only CNAME)? What happens if someone types the domain name i.e. worldsofsports.com without the www in front? I've tried previously and it leads to page loading error, but after I access the domain with www for one time, the browser automatically added the www when I typed in the url without the www.

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      • mangoz
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2015
        • 127
        • 5.1.x

        #4
        This is a great point you bring up and I'm anxious to see the vbulletin response

        They need the htaccess to be setup to force http://worldsofsports.com/ to http://www.worldsofsports.com/

        Currently the 1st cannot be accessed. Vbulletins own support team states you should forward and force your users to one or the other. They really should have done this on the cloud setup!
        Users aren't going to add the www themselves always
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        • Zachery
          Former vBulletin Support
          • Jul 2002
          • 59097

          #5
          Its not an htaccess thing. Its not something we support. We cannot run the cloud software on the root domain, it is a limitation of how our system is configured and a limitation of most cloud software installations.

          Since we only run the vBulletin cloud software, letting us manage your DNS would not be ideal. We don't provide email services, or any DNS services.

          Users on cloud are expected to add their own CNAME dns entires to the hostname they want. If they're unable to do that, we'll help them with that. We'll also attempt to provide instructions on how to redirect the root domain to their CNAME dns entry if they need to.

          Just to be clear, you cannot run a CNAME on a root domain, its against the concept of how DNS servers/etc work. Since you cannot do this, we cannot support root domains. Its not that we can't have an entry for it (we could, but it wouldn't work, so we don't) its that the services that power the internet do not allow it.

          Since we do not provide DNS services, we cannot make a root domain to non root domain redirect work.


          I'm currently running a server at home, but I have a dynamic IP. So I subscribed to a dynamic dns service(dlinkddns.com). I made all the correct settings in my own network, and the ip updates perfe...

          http://support.simpledns.com/kb/a94/...me-itself.aspx

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          • ljianyih
            Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 73

            #6
            Originally posted by Zachery
            Users on cloud are expected to add their own CNAME dns entires to the hostname they want. If they're unable to do that, we'll help them with that. We'll also attempt to provide instructions on how to redirect the root domain to their CNAME dns entry if they need to.
            So If I want to redirect my domain name http://worldsofsports.com/ to http://www.worldsofsports.com/ (since it cannot be the other way round I guess) to avoid error page loading when users trying to access the domain without www, what should I do for now (the domain name is on namecheap)? Thanks.

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            • Wayne Luke
              vBulletin Technical Support Lead
              • Aug 2000
              • 74161

              #7
              Originally posted by ljianyih

              So If I want to redirect my domain name http://worldsofsports.com/ to http://www.worldsofsports.com/ (since it cannot be the other way round I guess) to avoid error page loading when users trying to access the domain without www, what should I do for now (the domain name is on namecheap)? Thanks.

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              Wayne Luke
              The Rabid Badger - a vBulletin Cloud demonstration site.
              vBulletin 5 API

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              • ljianyih
                Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 73

                #8
                Thanks a lot for the help, it works well now.

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                • BritWorker
                  New Member
                  • Mar 2015
                  • 3
                  • 5.1.x

                  #9
                  Hi, Does anyone know how to do with on 123-reg?

                  There does not seem to be a way to set up a re-direct in this way.

                  Thanks.

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                  • Wayne Luke
                    vBulletin Technical Support Lead
                    • Aug 2000
                    • 74161

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BritWorker
                    Hi, Does anyone know how to do with on 123-reg?

                    There does not seem to be a way to set up a re-direct in this way.

                    Thanks.

                    Translations provided by Google.

                    Wayne Luke
                    The Rabid Badger - a vBulletin Cloud demonstration site.
                    vBulletin 5 API

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                    • BritWorker
                      New Member
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 3
                      • 5.1.x

                      #11
                      Thanks for your reply, However I cannot see a way to set up a re-direct, this is what is there.

                      I have mail with 123 reg which is working fine. I have set the CNAME records as instructed in the Vbulliten email, and have tried adding "@" and "*" CHAME records pointing to the bulletin url but it did not work. if you go to brainworker.net without the www it says 404 Not found. Then I tried a re-direct but

                      123 allows you to re-direct but where should I redirect to? I have tried re-directing to the URL bulletin provided but it shows a blank page 404 Not Found.

                      Many thanks for your help.
                      Last edited by BritWorker; Sat 21 Mar '15, 5:55am.

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                      • Wayne Luke
                        vBulletin Technical Support Lead
                        • Aug 2000
                        • 74161

                        #12
                        Appears to be working now. CNAMES can take up to 48 hours to go live depending on the TTL and registrar.
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                        Wayne Luke
                        The Rabid Badger - a vBulletin Cloud demonstration site.
                        vBulletin 5 API

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                        • BritWorker
                          New Member
                          • Mar 2015
                          • 3
                          • 5.1.x

                          #13
                          Hi Wayne, Thanks for getting back to me.

                          Unfortunately no luck, most browsers add the www. for you, so its not that much of a problem, but certain devices don't.

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                          • Wayne Luke
                            vBulletin Technical Support Lead
                            • Aug 2000
                            • 74161

                            #14
                            You must have the www for Cloud. It isn't an option to use it without it. You can only redirect subdomains using CNAMEs and our system.
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                            Wayne Luke
                            The Rabid Badger - a vBulletin Cloud demonstration site.
                            vBulletin 5 API

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