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  • filburt1
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2002
    • 6606

    #46
    Originally posted by Steve Machol
    Yep, exactly like that. Or like the women who sued McDonald's because the coffee was too hot. These things make the news because they are so rare (and so stupid!) If they weren't rare, they wouldn't be newsworthy.
    In retrospect, though, the coffee would have burned her mouth just as much any other part of her body. I mean, coffee doesn't need to be 150° to consume
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    • filburt1
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2002
      • 6606

      #47
      Originally posted by CeleronXT
      I agree that I broke a rule and that I got banned, but I definitely should not be tortured forever by the wrath of such an admin as this. Again, for me this has a much more harmful affect than it would for you, you just don't understand it.

      Keep in mind the rule that I broke. I wasn't at the board wreaking havoc and spamming and posting gay porn or anything like that ( funny, because doing that would be less illegal than what he's doing now ) - it was only an age problem. In fact, like I've said before, I was contributing constructively, and planning on doing so more.

      If you agree that based on the fact that the only rule I broke was that of age I should still be subjected to his torture.. I don't even know what to think of you.. except that maybe you're masochist (in that you wouldn't mind such treatment if it was happening to you as much as I do). O_o
      That gave me an idea: what about COPPA? Were you of or under the age of 13 at the time and did he have COPPA enabled or disabled?
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      • CeleronXT
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2002
        • 3217

        #48
        I'm going to the library later today to see what I can dig up.

        Their privacy policy has nothing in it about holding details hostage. Hrm.
        Originally posted by filburt1
        That gave me an idea: what about COPPA? Were you of or under the age of 13 at the time and did he have COPPA enabled or disabled?
        I wasn't under 13.
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        • Surrix
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2002
          • 290
          • 3.0.0 Beta 5

          #49
          Originally posted by CeleronXT
          No, it's not the content of the posts really.. They're generally ordinary things. They're not posts you would see here, but they're not like.. 'bad'. I can't really explain further without giving away the forum name.
          This statement leads me to believe that your case might be held with greater weight. Really I would look under the Child Protection act or something I believe there is something that you could get him for if he knows anything personal about you and has it posted for the world to see. I know no body may come after you but if some random person where to see the information that could be bad.
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          • the Sandman
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2003
            • 1539
            • 3.7.x

            #50
            Hey CeleronXT - if you remain calm and reasonable (which it sounds like you are) I think you just might get some satisfaction. To the extent you can, please let us know how this plays out, either here or at vBAdmins.
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            • Andrew-ningc
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2003
              • 175

              #51
              I would personally like to see this site that he is going to sue.

              We are all making judgement over wether or not it was his mistake or the web site author, we can't give a good answer of if he should sue or not as we don't know about the other side.

              Sue all you want, keep up the american sterio type, but you will lose, as you signed up to a site which was for adults only, you posted, you got caught, and you just can't take it (like a child).

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              • dynamite
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2002
                • 565
                • 3.6.x

                #52
                Well, if the issue is about you being under 18 and that being part of the reason you were removed, then yes, I believe your information should be removed. This may be a bad example, but look at what happens with the porn industy. If a underage person is in a movie, and that is discovered, then the distributor can no longer sell those movies because it is against the law. Now, they can't require people to return the movies they bought, they just can't sell them any longer.
                Same thing applies here. Really if this was any type of age violation, then I believe legally they should have to remove all information entered by you from the point of discovering that you were not of legal age (including your posts). This would be similar to the porn distributor saying, "Well, it's already made, might as well keep selling them!"
                As others have mentioned, find a local lawyer in your area which offers 1 time free legal advice and ask them. Also, most cities have a referral service which can help you find an affordable lawyer, who handles internet law, in your area.

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                • Raz Meister
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 1148

                  #53
                  Which particular law has this admin broken?
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                  • noppid
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2003
                    • 625
                    • 2.3.2

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Raz Meister
                    Which particular law has this admin broken?
                    See that's the point most of us are fixated on, the poster broke the rules and wants everything rolled back, not the admin. Most of us agree that this shouldn't be a big deal, but there is another side to the story we are not aware of.

                    I said there are 3 sides to every story... I meant, the posters, the admins, and the courts should they have to sort it out.
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                    • Andrew-ningc
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 175

                      #55
                      Originally posted by noppid
                      See that's the point most of us are fixated on, the poster broke the rules and wants everything rolled back, not the admin. Most of us agree that this shouldn't be a big deal, but there is another side to the story we are not aware of.

                      I said there are 3 sides to every story... I meant, the posters, the admins, and the courts should they have to sort it out.
                      A point i was trying to make, we can't give him any decent advice because we don't know the story, don't know the site, we don't know anything apart from he is underage, put some person details into the site (and lied, would be interesting to see if he put his age in the dob field) and now is going to get in trouble because of it (parients going to find out?).

                      I'm supprised that someone who is under age has the ability to fund such a law suit.

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                      • noppid
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2003
                        • 625
                        • 2.3.2

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Andrew-ningc
                        A point i was trying to make, we can't give him any decent advice because we don't know the story, don't know the site, we don't know anything apart from he is underage, put some person details into the site (and lied, would be interesting to see if he put his age in the dob field) and now is going to get in trouble because of it (parients going to find out?).

                        I'm supprised that someone who is under age has the ability to fund such a law suit.
                        I agree completly!

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                        • hunterb14
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 144
                          • 3.0.0 Gamma

                          #57
                          Here are my thoughs and they are clear and simple. You registered at that site and broke the TOS by registering since you are under the age of 18. You then freely gave this administrator personal information about yourself. This info you gave was volunteered and not forced. You really don't have a case in my opinion. This administrator has not broken any law by not giving your information back to you.

                          Since the admin has not broken any law, there is nothing the courts can do about it. Even if for some off reason that this gets to court, im sure the judge will look at you in more of the negative light considering your registered at a forum you knew you shouldn't have.

                          Just drop this case and move on.
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                          • CeleronXT
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2002
                            • 3217

                            #58
                            It would appear that almost none of you know a thing about the legal system. You keep saying I will lose just because I broke the rules. Apparently you don't understand that legally that won't matter. If you don't understand that that won't matter, don't bother posting your legal advice, because it's just coming right from the crapper.
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                            Originally posted by dynamite
                            Well, if the issue is about you being under 18 and that being part of the reason you were removed, then yes, I believe your information should be removed. This may be a bad example, but look at what happens with the porn industy. If a underage person is in a movie, and that is discovered, then the distributor can no longer sell those movies because it is against the law. Now, they can't require people to return the movies they bought, they just can't sell them any longer.
                            Same thing applies here. Really if this was any type of age violation, then I believe legally they should have to remove all information entered by you from the point of discovering that you were not of legal age (including your posts). This would be similar to the porn distributor saying, "Well, it's already made, might as well keep selling them!"
                            As others have mentioned, find a local lawyer in your area which offers 1 time free legal advice and ask them. Also, most cities have a referral service which can help you find an affordable lawyer, who handles internet law, in your area.
                            You're getting there... It's not a porn site by the way, but yeah.

                            Anyways. I'm off to the library.
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                            • tamarian
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2000
                              • 784
                              • 1.1.x

                              #59
                              Since we don't have much details to work on, here's a suggestion.

                              From the website IP, find the block owner, hosting company, or data center. Find on their hosting website the AUP document (Acceptable Use Policy). If whatever they did to you falls under any of the violation categories listed, then contact them and give the details, and they will force them to comply, or remove their site, if it indeed violates their AUP.

                              Now before going to all the details about that site and what went on between you two, keep it simple. Most AUP's do not allow SPAM. If the site does not allow you to unsubscribe "opt-out" from their list, then it is a violation of the "opt-out" requirements So maybe you can ask them to help you get off of that site's "list".
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                              • noppid
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2003
                                • 625
                                • 2.3.2

                                #60
                                Originally posted by CeleronXT
                                You keep saying I will lose just because I broke the rules.
                                You keep falling back on this I was a kid when I registered. Now I assume you are an adult since you want to bring legal action. Did you ever post as an adult?
                                If you were so serious about this you would have had your parents initiate an action when you were a child. The only ones that would win in this case would be the attornys when they take your money.


                                I wish you luck, but if this is how you choose to start your adult life, I dunno where you'll be 5 years from now.

                                Is this a DSS site? Did you get a "Letter"?
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