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  • David Copeland
    Senior Member
    • May 2000
    • 1354
    • 4.2.5

    #16
    Who is this guy and his lady?


    Is this Cheeky and his lady?

    (If so, he has a pretty snappy site!)

    [b]And here's his version of web legals:

    CLICK HERE: 24 Articles of Agreement

    (That's a monster of a legal claimer, Derrick!
    May I borrow it!)
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    [Edited by David Copeland on 06-01-2000 at 05:14 PM]

    DAVID COPELAND
    Licensed VB Holder Since 2000
    Celebrating 22 Years with VB

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    • cheeky
      Member
      • Apr 2000
      • 73

      #17
      Sorry David, I'm already spoken for!

      Let me know which sections you'd like of the legal doc and you can have them. Believe it or not I'm pretty fair, so long as you ask first before taking.

      (I have to say that it's quite an old one online, I've never got round to revamping the new one but as I've increased development it will need to be revised in about 6 weeks time)

      And I think it's only fair that everyone posts their mug-shot too - so come on David - let's see!

      ps: do I lose my $10 now ?
      I thought I was onto a winner there.

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      • cheeky
        Member
        • Apr 2000
        • 73

        #18
        thanks for breaching the reproduction of copyrighted imagery from one of my sites onto vB without permission!

        but so long as it's taken in good spirit, I'll let it go.

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        • JimF
          Senior Member
          • May 2000
          • 1988

          #19
          It seems to me that cheeky is making quite a fuss for someone who isn't even a vB customer, and believe was spamming his messageboard software on these forums a while ago.

          I guess some people just have way too much time on their hands...

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          • cheeky
            Member
            • Apr 2000
            • 73

            #20
            if you continue to make unfair critism then I will continue to reply as I've already mentioned to James.
            I know that vB are very concerned about these issues as it portrays their product and development in bad light, where there is strong evidence to support such an argument and acknowledge from vB that such distinct similarities occur, though co-incidental.

            the basic underlying problem is that you do not have to be a client of vB to appreciate that replication of raw copyrighted HTML source is a very serious issue, especially reagrding the resale of a commercial product and service.

            the fuss as you put it, is that such companies can flout such policies by disregarding the legal content of others.

            The point is two-fold:-

            1) protecting the interests of clients who invest is such suspicious software.
            - which was the original thread

            2) protecting the interest of ALL external developers from being copied by such abuse.
            - which was a theme touched upon by WebStyles

            Now why don't you respect both our wishes and leave it alone and let vB sort their policies out at which point a public and clear legal statement can be made from a reputable legal firm, which is all that is being asked for at this stage.

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            • Craig A
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2000
              • 620

              #21
              I think we all get the point you keep making, but you're boring the **** out of us by keep repeating it everytime you open your mouth. Please, for the sake of my sanity, sort this out with the authors direct via email.

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              • cheeky
                Member
                • Apr 2000
                • 73

                #22
                The point is that not everyone (JimF) realises the point of the fuss as it is a commercial issue.

                You have been asked politely by both myself and James to let this issue get resolved behind closed doors, which is currently happening.

                So just leave it at that.

                Any crap that get's posted here directly aimed at myself can only be viewed upon as exciting the situation which no-one wants.

                If it continues then I shall contact vB directly by phone to discuss individuals that I believe are not respecting those wishes.

                Have some respect and let this matter get resolved by those parties who have the concerns.

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                • David Copeland
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2000
                  • 1354
                  • 4.2.5

                  #23
                  Thanks for the offer, Cheeky.

                  We're still hammering out our customs on the new
                  VB software that arrived yesterday, and now with the
                  new version being released . . . we have more homework
                  to do before I can get into the legal page you have
                  at your site.

                  As for the unauthorized picture, I have found another
                  photo of you and your suspected lady friend, as I
                  "believe" it may be you. But I may be off a bit.

                  (Note: A private citizen has more rights to privacy
                  than a public figure. And there is a legal term
                  called "fair use", in which photo's and other copyrighted
                  works may be used without permission from the author,
                  if it is done so in terms of "fair use" in referring
                  to the person. But I suspect any redheaded chap would
                  know that . . . because it comes with the genes!)

                  As to the issue of who is going to have the LAST word
                  on this topic, may I make a humble suggestion: Have
                  the last "silent word". I began doing that a decade
                  ago when I was getting flamed on Prodigy. If I simply
                  made a truthful and rightful "statement", and some jerk
                  came along and flamed me, calling me a dog-kicker . . .
                  I got miles ahead in my board respect by turning the
                  cheek on the assault. You gain more board friends that
                  way, I believe . . . ESPECIALLY if we admit our wrongs
                  when we are wrong.

                  And last, in all fairness . . . I have dug up a picture
                  of myself taken my my wife recently. As you requested,
                  I will post it below. Unfortunately, my dear sweet
                  wife had the camera pointed at me from behind:

                  My very best to all,


                  David



                  DAVID COPELAND
                  Licensed VB Holder Since 2000
                  Celebrating 22 Years with VB

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                  • Menno
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2000
                    • 1224

                    #24
                    wow

                    this topic is great if you can't fall asleep
                    - Insert viable disclaimer here -

                    ArtBeast!

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                    • David Copeland
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2000
                      • 1354
                      • 4.2.5

                      #25
                      Menno . . .

                      Cheeky and I have established a Topic Rule here that we
                      encourage you and others to abide with, unless of
                      course you want to remain a cowboy:

                      If you're going to Reply here, you must post a picture
                      of yourself so that we have no doubts as to the sort
                      character you are.

                      DAVID COPELAND
                      Licensed VB Holder Since 2000
                      Celebrating 22 Years with VB

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