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  • George L
    Former vBulletin Support
    • May 2000
    • 32996
    • 3.8.x

    #16
    hehe my vB has been closed for 58 hrs now and still 20 - 30 people are hitting it.. but that's scary that bigsavings' setup is barely coping with such a setup but is that just a vBulletin or is that including the site and other hosted sites ?
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    • bigbigsavings
      Member
      • Jul 2000
      • 92

      #17
      There's nothing else running on those servers, just the forum.

      Alex
      Webmaster: BigBigSavings
      http://www.bigbigsavings.com

      Forums: http://www.bigbigsavings.com/forum

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      • Troy Roberts
        Senior Member
        • May 2000
        • 339

        #18
        Originally posted by bigbigsavings
        Troy,

        Right now we're doing about 240,000 page views per day, and our current set up is barely handling it. The current database server (dual p3-700 with 1 gig of ram) with about 600 people online starts hitting loads of 10+ and the board becomes very slow.

        Alex
        Thanks. Is the database server the sole machine for the forum today? Or is it load balanced somehow?

        I'm curious because we just got a new server for the forum. It won't have anything else on it. We're switching to vb from UBB sometime next week. The server we put it on is a dual 750mhz PIII, 1 gig of ram running RedHat Linux. We do 200k page views per day on average.

        We also have a dual 650 mhz with 512 ram that we are going to be using for free email, html, and various other things on the site.

        I don't really know much about load balancing. Do you think it might make sense to have the vb source code on one machine and the database on another? I'm a little worried about the load as we are still growing quite rapidly.

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        • bigbigsavings
          Member
          • Jul 2000
          • 92

          #19
          Our database server is dedicated to everything that has to do with MYSQL. As for YOUR setup, if you do 200,000 pageviews per day, I don't think that your dual p3-750 is going to fair too well. Our Dual p3-700 with 1 gig of ram, also running redhat is having trouble keeping up with our 220-240,000 pageviews per day, and you're not far from there. Feel free to email me at [email protected] and I can tell you some of the things we had gone through with our servers, so that you don't make the same mistake.

          Alex
          Webmaster: BigBigSavings
          http://www.bigbigsavings.com

          Forums: http://www.bigbigsavings.com/forum

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          • Mike Sullivan
            Former vBulletin Developer
            • Apr 2000
            • 13327
            • 3.6.x

            #20
            Here's another huge vB - http://forums.counter-strike.net - Just converted, courtesy of Stallion. They were pruning daily with UBB. They're now running 1.1.4 with the additional indexes and it looks to be purring along.

            Just now: 136 members, 270 guests. Little slower than it was about 2 hours ago

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            • bigbigsavings
              Member
              • Jul 2000
              • 92

              #21
              Version 1.1.4 DEFINITELY helped (although I'm still very upset about not having Private Messaging - as are the members), but the counter strike forums are quite slow for me. After you click on a link to a particular forum or to the main index page, it takes 4-5 seconds before the command is even recognized. Thats the same problem we were having.

              PS. If someone can help me get Private Messaging installed, I'd be very appreciative.

              Alex
              Webmaster: BigBigSavings
              http://www.bigbigsavings.com

              Forums: http://www.bigbigsavings.com/forum

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              • George L
                Former vBulletin Support
                • May 2000
                • 32996
                • 3.8.x

                #22
                Originally posted by bigbigsavings
                Version 1.1.4 DEFINITELY helped (although I'm still very upset about not having Private Messaging - as are the members), but the counter strike forums are quite slow for me. After you click on a link to a particular forum or to the main index page, it takes 4-5 seconds before the command is even recognized. Thats the same problem we were having.

                PS. If someone can help me get Private Messaging installed, I'd be very appreciative.

                Alex
                well i got PM 1.2.5 installed on 1.1.4 but it didn't work properly so i had to remove it




                it wasn't worth the hassle to install it, just wait for v2
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                • werehere
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2000
                  • 1827

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Ed Sullivan
                  Here's another huge vB - http://forums.counter-strike.net - Just converted, courtesy of Stallion. They were pruning daily with UBB. They're now running 1.1.4 with the additional indexes and it looks to be purring along.

                  Just now: 136 members, 270 guests. Little slower than it was about 2 hours ago
                  Both this one, and the bigbigsavings forum are monsters. I have been watching both of them, and they are going to be huge (gameplay style) very soon!

                  They both seem to load quite well for me, and I was not expecting it considering the amount of users, but it was pretty good!

                  Great job with those forums guys!
                  We're Here Forums!
                  [email protected]

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                  • Mike Sullivan
                    Former vBulletin Developer
                    • Apr 2000
                    • 13327
                    • 3.6.x

                    #24
                    Honestly, I think both the bigbigsavings and CS forums are HIGHLY limited by MySQL. You might be wise to look into running a custom Sybase backed vB. I know Matt Rogish is running one himself

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                    • bigbigsavings
                      Member
                      • Jul 2000
                      • 92

                      #25
                      Ed,

                      Who's Matt Roggish?

                      At this point, I'm thinking of switching to FuseTalk, since there are very LARGE forums running it without any problems (Anandtech being a perfect case). We can't keep upgrading our servers forever, it's already costing an arm and a leg for what we've got. Any solution would be good.

                      Alex
                      Webmaster: BigBigSavings
                      http://www.bigbigsavings.com

                      Forums: http://www.bigbigsavings.com/forum

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                      • Mike Sullivan
                        Former vBulletin Developer
                        • Apr 2000
                        • 13327
                        • 3.6.x

                        #26
                        Matt Rogish - mrogish: http://www.fanhome.com/
                        I believe all his boards are running on Sybase.

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                        • George L
                          Former vBulletin Support
                          • May 2000
                          • 32996
                          • 3.8.x

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Ed Sullivan
                          Matt Rogish - mrogish: http://www.fanhome.com/
                          I believe all his boards are running on Sybase.
                          yep i got a sneak peak at the new forums and they are cool - but at US$10,000+ for the Sybase license - http://www.sybase.com/products/databaseservers/ase/ it's expensive

                          the public forums are still on MySQL ... well last i heard...

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                          • Mike Sullivan
                            Former vBulletin Developer
                            • Apr 2000
                            • 13327
                            • 3.6.x

                            #28
                            1/10th of Oracle - but not 1/10th of the performance.

                            But for someone who has 600 people hitting the boards, I highly doubt MySQL will cut it.

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                            • George L
                              Former vBulletin Support
                              • May 2000
                              • 32996
                              • 3.8.x

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Ed Sullivan
                              1/10th of Oracle - but not 1/10th of the performance.

                              But for someone who has 600 people hitting the boards, I highly doubt MySQL will cut it.
                              wow does oracle really cost that much you can download for free the Sybase ASE from the right column of links posted on that url above - free on a development server so you could try it out

                              bigsavings, just curious with the amount of users on your forums, do you get alot of error 134 corruptions etc ?
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                              • bigbigsavings
                                Member
                                • Jul 2000
                                • 92

                                #30
                                eva2000,

                                So far, we have not had any corruption or errors. The only problem we really experienced was today (I posted about the slow queries, you read that message). Right now, everything is running perfectly, although I don't know how many people are online. If I had to guess by looking at the system usage, there are about 500-600 people on right now and the server load is just under 2.5.

                                This is WITHOUT being on the SUN servers yet.

                                Alex
                                Webmaster: BigBigSavings
                                http://www.bigbigsavings.com

                                Forums: http://www.bigbigsavings.com/forum

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