I would have liked to see ready made templates when purchasing your liscence. i.e. you could pick from the following 20 themes. Also, coding challenged friendly stuff. I stink at html or php and it would be nice to have something that would help me out.
What don't you like about vBulletin?
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Originally posted by Sinecure
5) Calendar = the most useless feature ever No offence, but I don't know anyone who used it, and I'd be surprised if people used it to keep track of their "busy" lives ehhe I would personally scrap it, but I can see how its feature you have to have there, so you might as well keep it
But aside from that, I never used it and always considered it more clutter than convenience.Comment
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What don't I like?
Not much really. In fact I like the program so well I wen't ahead and purchased some more licenses to work with.
I didn't even read the posts in this thread. I felt that if there were those that had issues with the software, that they could try out the competitions for comparison.
Maybe the post should have started out like "What improvements would you like to see with vBulletin?" This is always acceptable as there is always room for improvement with any software.
"What don't you like about vBulletin?"
Nothing really. I have some ideas that might help improve a few things, but nothing that I don't like about it.
Update: I didn't realize the thread was so old. I posted earlier in the thread but didn't have anything to say on the topic really. So above is what I think.Last edited by Hooper; Fri 5 Jul '02, 9:13am.Comment
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Originally posted by tubedogg
With all due respect to Richy T., if you are going to run a website you have got to learn HTML. We can only do so much and can only come so far...you have to meet us halfway. PHP knowledge is not necessary to modify the templates.
But like I said, it would be nice to have some ready made templates upon license purchase.Comment
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Originally posted by Richy T.
But like I said, it would be nice to have some ready made templates upon license purchase.
But truthfully, most users are integration type folks who prefer to integrate the community with the look and feel of the current site.
For these people, templates would be less than useless. The templates wouldn't work for most. It would be a very basic template indeed if it were to even be worked on.
As Kevin mentioned, what you really need to think about is getting the html down. At least to a point that you can design a simple template. It usually takes less than a couple hours not including any graphics that you want.
On one hand I see your point, but on the other I see how few would benefit from standardized templates. Personally I'm sure I would just delete them.
PHP and mySQL has nothing to do with html. You can create templates just by learning the vBulletin template system. It does take time. It's not always easy. But you'll find the education you get out of designing your own communities will be worth the time spent 3 fold.
PS. I just looked at the link you have for your www and the community on the racing page. It looks very nice. What's wrong with what you have there for your design? Looks nice to me.Last edited by Hooper; Fri 5 Jul '02, 10:09am.Comment
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Originally posted by qwaz
Having these "ready made templates" handed to you doesn't help you meet anyone halfway.
Get a book and read a few chapters.
It could easily be made an option in the license purchasing for x dollars more to have x templates available. I would have gone for that instead of having the default template up for numerous weeks. If you don't want it, don't buy it.Comment
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Originally posted by Richy T.
True, but I could also say for you to read a few different books on gas combustion engine construction/unibody frame manufacturing/suspension for dummies and build your own vehicle from scratch in your backyard. Not comparing apples to apples here but it's basically the same idea.
I can sympathise. But a couple of years ago after picking up a basic HTML book (Visual Quickstart Guide to HTML 4 was great) I just flipped around the book and compared it to my paper design, and poof... By just looking up what I needed I had the skeleton done in a week.
You don't have to know HTML fully inside and out in order to do what needs to be done with vBulletin, especially with the resources at your disposal (here, and at www.vbulletin.org and www.sitepoint.com).
Besides, there are *tonnes* of excellent free templates out there that you can use out-of-box and modify where appropriate, if at all.
Good luck! Don't forget that you're not alone, and everyone's been in your position at some point. This is a fantastic community.
BTW, your HTML signature won't work in forums that have disabled HTML, like this one.Last edited by Arkham; Fri 5 Jul '02, 11:09am.Comment
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I do understand where all of you are coming from. I do a lot of searches on here and have found numerous answers. Not doubting the value of this community one single bit.
I think you hit it right on the head when you said that "everyone's been in your position at some point". It's just frustration talking.
How come my sigs won't work? I see others with them on. No, don't tell me, another code language.Comment
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Originally posted by Richy T.
I think you hit it right on the head when you said that "everyone's been in your position at some point". It's just frustration talking.
Okay, let's see...
-- The chances of an official template package distributed with vB3.0 is unlikely. But the new default style should be kick-a$$. Or at least better than the current purple. (Currant? )
-- There are lots of templates available here and at www.vbulletin.org, www.vbulletinaddons.com, and www.bbaddons.com.
-- www.vbulletintemplates.com just opened. Despite what the name suggests, (it's not full of template downloads! )it's geared to users who want to know more about how templates work, how they can make their own, and to discuss and share templates with others. This may be a great place for you to check out next, if you already haven't.
-- While I'm not able to get down'n'dirty detail-wise with vBulletin, I'll help you find some templates if you let me know what you're looking for. I'm developing my own on paper and in Photoshop now, learning as much non-vB stuff to get a leg-up on things, and I come across lots of different vB sites and templates in my daily travels. I might be able to give you a hand.
How come my sigs won't work? I see others with them on. No, don't tell me, another code language.Comment
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I'm just going to pipe in here and say that we are considering including more styles as an optional extra with vB 3...though very likely nothing extra will be included in the beta versions. If we do include any they will almost certainly not be available until vB 3 final is released.
You'll hear more about it during the beta period.Comment
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Well the $135 may be well spent, but I think it isn't to good making customers pay that each time they want to upgrade.Comment
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Most people are easily able to install and upgrade vB by themselves. It's only in the more difficult situuations where someone needs to pay for these services.Steve Machol, former vBulletin Customer Support Manager (and NOT retired!)
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Originally posted by freddie
Of course, we extend it. Rewriting the code is the quickest way to introduce bugs and really make everyone mad.
vb3 changes a lot so you will have to withold your judgement until this. Don't expect to be overwhelmed with OO though
1) I wouldn't expect JelSoft to write OO code, even though I would want them to... they have benefited very heavily over the years by users creating hacks and aiding in the continual improvement of the product, this would be impaired by an OO architecture as OO is less accessible to new coders and those wanting to make changes, those slowing external development of the product to the products loss.
2) Even though I dearly wish for an OO architecture, and concede that we won't get it in the short term... I would love it if JelSoft could at least seperate the data access into another layer so that changing the database could be done through the replacement of this layer without needing to change the control layer.
As for something I don't like, I don't like the fact that you cannot use one board for multiple sites... e.g. let's say I only want one installation, and for it to be on one host, i'm gonna use virtual hosting and point 76 domains at this one installation... i'll happily pay for 76 licenses (one per domain)... but i only want to admin and hack one set of source code... and I want the actual sites to show 76 different forums (styles, posts, users, etc)... so, I want one installation for 76 sites.
I actually work at a company that wanted this, as did my prior company... both wanted one installation for multiple sites, and an Oracle back end. Both would have paid licenses for every domain, but only could afford the internal admin costs of one DB and one installation... both had to resort to very crap self-coded boards just to fit this requirement, yet both still desire more, but it's not catered for here... I would have liked to have been using vb at work... but as it stands, this is a end user product still and not a corporate one. Complaints earlier about crapper boards being used by corps... well this is one of the prime reasons why, core requirements supercede userability.
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by rhenslooking down this thread list, i see endless threads of complaints from "the sky is falling" to "where is the bathroom?". a very large percentage of the users here are license holders....
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