We are, remaining alone?

[Mark.B]

xF not only ripped off vB but they also go around looking for ideas from unpublished forum software (and sometimes even other kinds of software), and although theres no law against that, it is very cruel to the people who actually put some thought into those ideas

I mean to be fair they should at least wait until software is released before copying ideas

What in the world are you getting at.

You're 17. I'll be generous and hope that that post is down to the exuberance of youth. Either that or you're the worst type of troll.

XF did not "rip off" vB in any way shape or form. If you knew anything about forum software you'd know that.

[Mark.B]

I tried to make this clear, but since people didn't understand I'll say it again:

I am not talking about copying off active competitors,

Then why did you say that xf had "ripped off" vB?

[steven s]

What in the world are you getting at.

You're 17. I'll be generous and hope that that post is down to the exuberance of youth. Either that or you're the worst type of troll.

XF did not "rip off" vB in any way shape or form. If you knew anything about forum software you'd know that.

But his friend is VERY smart.

I said something earlier in this thread:

My friend is VERY smart by the way

So far we still haven't seen an example of what he is referring to.

[Leadcrow]

Meanwhile, in Finland...

Aside from the complexities in migration and personal preference, liberal licencing/renewal terms for support+updates also are appreciable. Cheap enough to acquire and cheap enough to keep renewing, who would say no to that in this age when board owners increasingly attempt to not just recoup their costs but actually get some more loose change from their passion ?

[Shamil.]

Oh dear. /lock please.

[Ramsesx]

Its still cruel to the people who put thought into the ideas though


No, they are copying ideas off announcements announcing the release of new software, here's a random demonstration:

"I am making new forum software called [INSERT NAME HERE]... blah blah blah blah blah...
Here are some of the original features it will have:
- [insert feature here]
- [insert feature here]
- [and so on...]"

(I know that isn't very professional but its just an example)

So far I could see, Xenforo isn't using never before known features, or do you mean the secret "New Thread" button?

[Alfa1]

Does anyone else smell that?

[Ryan Ashbrook]

Its still cruel to the people who put thought into the ideas though

How is it cruel?

If I come up with a good idea for a piece of software, post about it publicly, then another firm comes along and puts their own twist on that very same idea then they should be applauded, not damned. They took an idea, and made it better. It's what keeps the market healthy, and the competition on their toes when looking for that "next big thing" to implement.

[Ramsesx]

Does anyone else smell that?

Not really.

[Ace]

Libellous, actually.

I stand corrected.

I forget that these forum conversation thingies aren't actually spoken.

[TheVisitors]

I see many addon coders and a very large number of former vbulletin admins have moved away to XF and IPB. They still have vb4 licenses, so IB doesn't feel their departure yet. Its substantial for sure. Denying that is not realistic. But the vbulletin customer base is far from gone and there are still a lot of add on coders on vb.org.

Just now, in contrast to a year ago vbulletins competitors have an active addon community and a lot of new clients.

Coders, yes.

Stylers, no.

[Aquazelf]

Oh dear. /lock please.

Yeah, I'm going to be strictly punished for defending the forum software that this forum was made for

[Mark.B]

Yeah, I'm going to be strictly punished for defending the forum software that this forum was made for

Sorry, you need to grow up a bit. You're not in school now.

[steven s]

Yeah, I'm going to be strictly punished for defending the forum software that this forum was made for

You are not proving anything.
You make accusations without any support to back them.

[Alfa1]

Not really.

Wild accusations, while refusing to back them up in any way. Smells like a troll to me.