Former vBulletin lead developer Kier Darby to develop new forum software?

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  • Loco.M
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2005
    • 4319
    • 3.5.x

    Originally posted by Boofo
    Maybe support wasn't the right word. What I meant was listening to what the customers want.
    considering it's a new script, with very few if any customers, it's not surprising the devs are listening to them..LMAO
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    • pspmodandcfw
      Banned
      • Oct 2008
      • 34

      Originally posted by Loco.M
      considering it's a new script, with very few if any customers, it's not surprising the devs are listening to them..LMAO
      Proves that they can learn and adapt.

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      • Boofo
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2002
        • 2033
        • 4.1.x

        Until they run across some suggestions they either don't agree with or don't feel like taking the time and effort to add.
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        • pspmodandcfw
          Banned
          • Oct 2008
          • 34

          Originally posted by Boofo
          Until they run across some suggestions they either don't agree with or don't feel like taking the time and effort to add.
          Yep though their decisions are very good and it's what decides how successful the product will be. Please excuse me but if they follow every suggestion that has been suggested the product will be bloated, a failure and inefficient. (remind you of anything???)

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          With vision like this, I don't need to be listened to. I keep looking for things to add or something I don't like, but I've got nothing. Literally.

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          • Boofo
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2002
            • 2033
            • 4.1.x

            I don't agree as without customers desires being taken into affect, the software would go in a direction of what one person's idea is of what it should be.
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            • pspmodandcfw
              Banned
              • Oct 2008
              • 34

              Originally posted by Boofo
              I don't agree as without customers desires being taken into affect, the software would go in a direction of what one person's idea is of what it should be.
              Yeah bud i don't mean total developers decisions, just listen to the important requests and stop trying to please everyone.

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              • Boofo
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2002
                • 2033
                • 4.1.x

                Originally posted by pspmodandcfw
                Yeah bud i don't mean total developers decisions, just listen to the important requests and stop trying to please everyone.
                And who decides what is important or not? That was my point.

                If the masses want something and the developer has other ideas, WHICH has happened in the past, what makes Xen any better than vb?
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                • ManagerJosh
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 9922

                  Originally posted by Boofo
                  Maybe support wasn't the right word. What I meant was listening to what the customers want.
                  Do you have a particular time frame in mind as well?
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                  • Shamil.
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 4755
                    • 4.2.X

                    The primary condition to see if a feature will/not be added is if they have used it. Regardless of their answer, the community then suggests and converse with the developers to see if it can/not be implemented.
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                    • pspmodandcfw
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 34

                      Originally posted by Boofo
                      And who decides what is important or not? That was my point.

                      If the masses want something and the developer has other ideas, WHICH has happened in the past, what makes Xen any better than vb?
                      Ahh Common sense where would be be without it. If everyone wanted to have a big bold red blinking text on the home page saying Register Here but the developers thinks it will hinder the philosophy of the clean design of xenForo they should not implement it.

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                      • Reeve of Shinra
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2001
                        • 4325
                        • 4.0.0

                        Originally posted by Boofo
                        And who decides what is important or not? That was my point.

                        If the masses want something and the developer has other ideas, WHICH has happened in the past, what makes Xen any better than vb?
                        I brought that up with them actually and it sounds like they will try to communicate with us if an idea is out of scope for various reasons. They are also trying to keep users posted as to when a feature may come up if it is in the deck of cards. What makes this different is that we can then choose to hire a coder to create it or not as the case may be. It remains to be seen if it works out that way but a brief check of the suggestions forum over at XF leads me to believe so.
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                        • Boofo
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2002
                          • 2033
                          • 4.1.x

                          Originally posted by pspmodandcfw
                          Ahh Common sense where would be be without it. If everyone wanted to have a big bold red blinking text on the home page saying Register Here but the developers thinks it will hinder the philosophy of the clean design of xenForo they should not implement it.
                          Ah, yes, in a perfect world that would be true.
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                          • Dream
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2001
                            • 1898
                            • 3.6.x

                            I personally gave up on getting mad that my suggestions weren't implemented ages ago. Nowadays I get mildly mad.
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                            • feldon23
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2001
                              • 11291
                              • 3.7.x

                              Originally posted by Boofo
                              Until they run across some suggestions they either don't agree with or don't feel like taking the time and effort to add.
                              In the past, they didn't respond on suggestions they either A) felt would not be a good fit for the product, or B) weren't ready to commit to. Now, they seem to be commenting on most suggestions, even if the answer will not make everyone happy.

                              And here's just another reminder that Kier's communication with the community was severely curtailed after IB took over.

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                              • Wayne Luke
                                vBulletin Technical Support Lead
                                • Aug 2000
                                • 73981

                                Let's try to keep this thread balanced and not attack them please. I wouldn't want to have to close this based on personal attacks.
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