lol nice read one week after i bought vBseo, oh well i guess it early enough in the game to remove it. i guess it does make sense to do it now as the forum i purchesed this for is only one week old. and only has a few members at this point. I wasn't aware of the new SEO tools in vB4. Dang this kind of blows since i just dropped the bucks a few days ago.
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VBSEO used to have a very real aspect in vb... it has really just continued on some older aspects and tried to make many things easier for novices. It does do a lot if those things are what you want, but I would not say by itself that it makes any traffic improvements, because content is what does that.
VonDoom... maybe ask for a refund as its not what you wanted.Comment
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I appreciate the tip but in all honesty its not vBseo's fault that i didnt know friendly URL's would be included in vB4. i really havent been paying to much attention to the vB4 status updates because my primary board is so heavily modified that ill never make the transition. I may go ahead and request a URL transfer to that forum. I cant imagine that would hurt to much. well in the short term it would, but that forum is pretty established anyways. I suppose ill just take the minor financial hit.
All in all im just happy to have read this thread. considering the biggest mistake ive made since my first forum went live one year ago was heavily modifying it. and thats a mistake i wont make twice. So all in all removing vBseo on my new forum wont bother me a bit. Im 100% with you on keeping vB as close to out of the box as i can this go around. my new motto is Kiss (keep it simple stupid) i have way better things to do then continuously debug my boards.Comment
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It should be noted that a lot of people have had very successful reports using VBSEO, I would encourage people to look beyond just this thread to form their own opinion. However, I also think that times have changed and that search engines are much smarter than they once were.
Certain things like search friendly URL's aren't nearly as important as the title for example, they have figured out the best way to crawl, name and index a site/page based on it's content, not necessarily because of URL rewrites.
For the right site VBSEO may be a good fit but with so many options it's easy to miss something or make a wrong configuration turning into a minefiled as Dean said. For now I am going to remove it and trust Google to figure out what's what.Comment
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Interesting thread, for the last few weeks I have been trying to determin what is wrong with my forum running vbseo.. Over 433,000 posts yet only 5400 results in Google and they are all junk which is way way down from what it used to be. You can file me into the minefield category... it just keeps getting worse so I am going to give up and uninstall it. BTW the link to the uninstall instructions are here http://www.vbseo.com/blogs/mert-goek...all-vbseo-238/
My plan is to go back to stock vB, let it take a hit and re-index, it can't be any worse than it currently is. I might as well not even exist to Google at this point.
My motto, if it works - leave it alone.Comment
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This is the problem, Google is always changing the way it decides to start indexing and ranking pages from sites. Which is why vBSEO cannot claim that their product will give you better results. I use stock vBulletin, no re-writes, no nothing except a robots.txt file with a few directories blocked like admincp and modcp. Nothing major! And the rank images I've been adding to my site these past few days - are already getting indexed in Google search results.
The sooner the SEO spin machine stops spinning, and people start being educated on search marketing, the better.Dean Clatworthy - Web Developer/DesignerComment
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Well... be buggered. Made this change on the 17 Sep, today being only the 24th here in Oz... and my SE traffic is actually back to full traffic. Reviewing the logs, obvious increase to my homepage as I 301'd the 404 to the homepage to get Google dropping URL's faster and reindexing, and for traffic wise, it has worked an absolute charm. All SE traffic is now the same as it was the day I removed vbseo. One week is all it took for traffic to bounce and be back to normal via SE's.
Very very happy with this outcome. Years ago... this would have punished me for months.Comment
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i suppose you will not post that testimonial on the vbseo.com site, isn't it Anthony?... they always search for comments about how vbSEO changed your life... rofloh no, i'm not going with Xenforo... come on, i'm better than that... i stick with Wordpress... roflComment
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Well... be buggered. Made this change on the 17 Sep, today being only the 24th here in Oz... and my SE traffic is actually back to full traffic. Reviewing the logs, obvious increase to my homepage as I 301'd the 404 to the homepage to get Google dropping URL's faster and reindexing, and for traffic wise, it has worked an absolute charm. All SE traffic is now the same as it was the day I removed vbseo. One week is all it took for traffic to bounce and be back to normal via SE's.
Very very happy with this outcome. Years ago... this would have punished me for months.Comment
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Oh, and here is the proof if you Nex, or another want to post this on their forum, showing the dip off from 16th at peek, 17th falling off, 18th hitting bottom, then 19th - 22nd climbing back without vbseo installed. I thought I would post this snapshot from my Google stats for anyone in doubt.
At present, my stats have only taken a 3% fall overall, from pre vbseo to no vbseo, which is likely due to the change, but saying that, stats rise and fall a few percent all the time for lots of reasons. I would put it down to the change, but I expect over the coming weeks the site to be back to its normal increase off around 1000 new visitors per month, which is the sites average over the last year. I typically grow around 11,000 - 13,000 additional visitors annually, reviewing past statistics. Reviewing what I have just witnessed from doing, I would say my site should now be back on track and functioning the same as when vbseo was installed. I will update if anything goes off left field.
I will continue to monitor it every now and then just to review any change of significance. I would be totally impressed if the growth increased after removal... good for me, bad for vbseo though I guess. Eek!Comment
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as i said earlier, 2 or 3 weeks and tada.. the time for google and others to reset the indexes...
just update your spiders list *(with Dreams' one) so you know if all your guests are these crawlers which update their cached indexes... something like this: http://vbenhancer.com/misc.php?do=crawlers could help too..oh no, i'm not going with Xenforo... come on, i'm better than that... i stick with Wordpress... roflComment
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Google is now even asking webmasters which variables in urls it should ignore. So that clearly shows there is no need for pretty urls anymore, to please Google.
One thing that I think is overlooked in this thread, is the use of Google analytics. Adding analytics does not only give you insight into google, but also gives Google insight into your site. This means that if you are using various SEO tricks that fool Google (like pretty much any SEO solution does), then adding Google analytics may not be the best idea. After adding analytics Google can see trough many of them. So the SEO strategy needs to be re-evaluated after analytics.I buy 420 forums
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by dog-tagHello,
I would like to know the future SEO functions of vBulletin 5?
Will it be a case of spending another $150 on vbseo, or will vbulletin take this seriously?
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