I can decrypt MD5

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  • dreamer81
    Senior Member
    • May 2005
    • 474
    • 3.7.x

    I can decrypt MD5

    For those of you that thinks MD5 is safe, i can decrypt a lot of MD5 strings.

    At the moment i can only decrypt strings between 1 and 7 characters that consists of capital letters and numbers.

    for instance

    123456R or HELLO or DREAMER or BIRD666


    post your md5 that consists of capital letters and/or numbers, and I will prove it to you
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  • Colin F
    Senior Member
    • May 2004
    • 17689

    #2
    You're not decrypting, what you have is called rainbow tables
    And just before anyone asks, vBulletins passwords are not affected by this, because they're hashed twice and salted.
    Best Regards
    Colin Frei

    Please don't contact me per PM.

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    • Zonex
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2004
      • 1127

      #3
      you sure your not just looking at an md5 database? http://md5.rednoize.com/

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      • Dean C
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2002
        • 4571
        • 3.5.x

        #4
        Originally posted by Zonex
        you sure your not just looking at an md5 database? http://md5.rednoize.com/
        Indeed
        Dean Clatworthy - Web Developer/Designer

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        • dreamer81
          Senior Member
          • May 2005
          • 474
          • 3.7.x

          #5
          Originally posted by Zonex
          you sure your not just looking at an md5 database? http://md5.rednoize.com/

          yeah Im sure
          that database doesn't hold as many md5 hashes that i can decrypt
          My site
          www.coolservice.dk

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          • filburt1
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2002
            • 6606

            #6
            You can't "decrypt" anything because MD5 hashes aren't "encrypted" forms of anything. And if they were, there would need to be certificate data, which you don't have. You're just guessing at common passwords.
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            • Marco van Herwaarden
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2004
              • 6999
              • 3.8.x

              #7
              Like filburt also mentioned, MD5 is not an encryption, but a hash. The difference between these 2 is that with an encryption-algorythm it is a 2way process encrypt<->decrypt. With a hash this is a 1-way process, there is no decryption possible.

              The only way to guess (you can never be sure, since 2 different originals could lead to the same hash) the original of a hash is to create a database of all possible plaintext->hash (rainbow table). These rainbow tables are different for each exact implementation of the algorythm. I have until now not seen any rainbow table for the multiple MD5 that vBulletin uses. The cahnce that there will ever be one is also very unlikely since it would take years of processing on some heavy duty servers to calculate them.
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              • Tree
                Member
                • Aug 2006
                • 82
                • 3.5.x

                #8
                It's possible to make a rainbow table for multiple MD5 + salts, but depending on the length of the salt, there's over 100 possibilities for one password.

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                • Jerry
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 9137
                  • 1.1.x

                  #9
                  There needs to be a thread with "This is encryption and this is a hash" .......
                  I wrote ImpEx.

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                  • filburt1
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 6606

                    #10
                    c16d33e92f948ede8fd0a51ea8c8ee5e . Unhash now. No, it's not profanity.

                    With an MD5 hash string that PHP generates, there are 16^32 possibilities for hashes. That's just about 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,770,000,000 possibilities (sorry about the lack of precision). So, if you could calculate a million MD5 hashes per second, it'll take you about 1078289752455631808069607.9785274 years maximum to get it right.

                    Windows Calculator > *

                    Having said that, this query should show you how many users have duplicate passwords, and therefore stupidly simple passwords in all likelyhood:
                    Code:
                    SELECT COUNT(password) - COUNT(DISTINCT password) FROM user
                    ...if that works in MySQL (fine in PostgreSQL) and if the table is set up as I recall.
                    Last edited by filburt1; Thu 7 Sep '06, 5:37pm.
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                    • Joe Gronlund
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 5789
                      • 3.8.x

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Colin F
                      And just before anyone asks, vBulletins passwords are not affected by this, because they're hashed twice and salted.
                      LOL Salted Do we get cheese with that??
                      MCSE, MVP, CCIE
                      Microsoft Beta Team

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                      • MRGTB
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2005
                        • 5454

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Joe Gronlund
                        LOL Salted Do we get cheese with that??
                        I'm hungry now. Cheese and crisp buttys, with salt on of course.

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                        • Joe Gronlund
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 5789
                          • 3.8.x

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Gary Bolton
                          I'm hungry now. Cheese and crisp buttys, with salt on of course.

                          Me too
                          MCSE, MVP, CCIE
                          Microsoft Beta Team

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                          • Colin F
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2004
                            • 17689

                            #14
                            filburt1, that query won't work because of the salt. Even if 5 people have the same password, the salt will change the second hash.
                            Best Regards
                            Colin Frei

                            Please don't contact me per PM.

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                            • Marco van Herwaarden
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 6999
                              • 3.8.x

                              #15
                              .....and even without the salt, 2 different passwords could lead to the same hash, so duplicate hashes would not need to mean that the passwords are the same.
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