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  • Steve Machol
    Former Customer Support Manager
    • Jul 2000
    • 154488

    #16
    Glad you got it working.
    Steve Machol, former vBulletin Customer Support Manager (and NOT retired!)
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    • Mark.B
      vBulletin Support
      • Feb 2004
      • 24288
      • 6.0.X

      #17
      Originally posted by Steve Machol
      Glad you got it working.
      Thanks.

      Certainly my most fraught upgrade yet. Closest I've ever come to putting to good use my meticulous backups.
      MARK.B
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      • stingray27
        Member
        • Aug 2006
        • 49
        • 3.6.x

        #18
        I thought the new upgrade system was designed so that if these big changes timed out the page, all you had to do was to refresh the browser page and it would carry on ?
        This is my signature.

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        • Mark.B
          vBulletin Support
          • Feb 2004
          • 24288
          • 6.0.X

          #19
          Originally posted by stingray27
          I thought the new upgrade system was designed so that if these big changes timed out the page, all you had to do was to refresh the browser page and it would carry on ?
          I had heard that too, but mine was having none of it.
          MARK.B
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          • Joe Gronlund
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2001
            • 5789
            • 3.8.x

            #20
            I use those settings in my config.php also. Glad you got it sorted out.
            MCSE, MVP, CCIE
            Microsoft Beta Team

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            • Colin F
              Senior Member
              • May 2004
              • 17689

              #21
              The upgrade script now tries to rerun such steps, but it's not really aimed at big boards, but rather at places where an error in the middle of the script makes it halt.
              Best Regards
              Colin Frei

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              • Mark.B
                vBulletin Support
                • Feb 2004
                • 24288
                • 6.0.X

                #22
                Not to worry. All is now well and I'm glad I persevered.

                I had a feeling it was going to be difficult this time as soon as I saw all the changes to the POST table.

                The advice given in this thread and also on the page I linked to meant I got through ok by running the POST and THREAD table queries in putty instead. Not for beginners, but then if you are upgrading a board that's big enough for this to be a problem, then you aren't a beginner!

                My problem is that I ought to be on a dedicated server really. I can't afford one, but in any event my host is so good that my shared server performs almost as well (on a day to day basis at least) as a dedicated one...loads of less than 0.5 are the norm. As my number of active members at any one time rarely exceeds 50 I am just about ok, but I have been lucky in that respect...

                Anyway, great job again guys, the upgrade process is actually flawless, this was entirely a server issue. I hope I haven't put anyone with smaller boards off upgrading - the problems I had will NOT happen to you, and there is no problem whatsoever with the vB upgrade scripts. Thought I ought to clarify that for anyone reading.
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                • dreamer81
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2005
                  • 474
                  • 3.7.x

                  #23
                  I think it's very lousy that this can happen.
                  I thought vbulletin developers made intelligent code, instead of what i call junk-code.

                  What is the strategy with this??
                  My site
                  www.coolservice.dk

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                  • Matthew Gordon
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2002
                    • 3243
                    • 1.1.x

                    #24
                    It's not a code problem, it's a PHP limitation.

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                    • dreamer81
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2005
                      • 474
                      • 3.7.x

                      #25
                      Originally posted by squall14716
                      It's not a code problem, it's a PHP limitation.

                      its always a code problem. The coders are using php.. and therefor should implement their code with the limitations that php offer.
                      My site
                      www.coolservice.dk

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                      • Kier
                        Former Lead Developer, vBulletin
                        • Sep 2000
                        • 8179

                        #26
                        Originally posted by dreamer81
                        its always a code problem. The coders are using php.. and therefor should implement their code with the limitations that php offer.
                        Unfortunately that is simply impossible. If you are going to run an ALTER query on a post table that contains a million posts it is going to cause a problem for PHP unless the time limit for execution is extended. There simply is no way to make the ALTER query run faster.

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                        • Floris
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2001
                          • 37767

                          #27
                          I have helped quite a few vB customers with their big upgrades, some went without a glitch, some took almost a week. I have learned to have a proper development server at my house (localhost) where I have enough hard drive space, root access, and enough RAM. Together it helps to dump the .sql dump to my localhost and restore it there. Use the same MySQL and PHP as the customer is using and run the vB upgrade without the internet closing ssh2 and things like that. There have been times I have had 3gb dumps that I let run and just went to bed and woke up and it had finished an hour later - taking 5 or 6 hours. Then I dump again and restore on the live site. The biggest problems I have found were the forums who have a lot of posts (millions) and who have a lot of attachments (over 1gb).

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                          • sabret00the
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 1044
                            • 3.0.7

                            #28
                            what we need is the ability to run upgrades via SSH

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                            • Floris
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 37767

                              #29
                              Originally posted by sabret00the
                              what we need is the ability to run upgrades via SSH
                              I second that

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                              • Kier
                                Former Lead Developer, vBulletin
                                • Sep 2000
                                • 8179

                                #30
                                Originally posted by sabret00the
                                what we need is the ability to run upgrades via SSH
                                It's something we are seriously looking into.

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