UK becoming more like the states?

[Zonex]

With adreneline pumped cops shooting or beating up people. 5 bullets?

[free thinker]

With adreneline pumped cops shooting or beating up people. 5 bullets?

I suppose one could perceive it that way. Isn't it also possible that because of the UK's overall lax policies on law enforcement and punishment, that crime is starting to get out of hand. After all, you all do have the "chavs" and "yobs" situation. LOL. Maybe the cops are just playing catch-up?

[minx]

By shooting innocent civilians?

[free thinker]

By shooting innocent civilians?

Ya, that's what I said...

*nevermind*

[Zonex]

You wil pass the U.S. test when there's video footage of a cop beating up a suspect that is surrendering and they get off scott free.

Only then can the UK give us a run for our money.

PS Just read this guy wasnt a bad guy. Probably just got scared when he saw plainclothes peeps with guns chasing him.

[Shining Arcanine]

With adreneline pumped cops shooting or beating up people. 5 bullets?

The only people who complain about armed police are the criminals that need to worry about them. The issue is really highly exggerated, especially since that (in New York anyway) a police officier goes through 9 months of litigation for the two seconds it takes to shoot a bullet, and none of them want to deal with that. Personally, I think that is nonsense. If a criminal has a gun, they're asking to be shot by the police.

You wil pass the U.S. test when there's video footage of a cop beating up a suspect that is surrendering and they get off scott free.

Only then can the UK give us a run for our money.

PS Just read this guy wasnt a bad guy. Probably just got scared when he saw plainclothes peeps with guns chasing him.

Assuming that is true, you forgot to mention the fact that any police officer doing that would lose his job and be subject to jail time.

[Zonex]

The only people who complain about armed police are the criminals that need to worry about them. The issue is really highly exggerated, especially since that (in New York anyway) a police officier goes through 9 months of litigation for the two seconds it takes to shoot a bullet, and none of them want to deal with that. Personally, I think that is nonsense. If a criminal has a gun, they're asking to be shot by the police.

no due process? ok

rodney king didnt have a gun
the guy in the uk didnt have a gun
the kid slammed and punched on top of the cop car didnt have a gun
the guy surrendering in california didnt have a gun
mcduffie didnt have a gun

some cops are just not made to be cops, it requires self control and there is not enough testing for such behaviour

[free thinker]

no due process? ok

rodney king didnt have a gun
the guy in the uk didnt have a gun
the kid slammed and punched on top of the cop car didnt have a gun
the guy surrendering in california didnt have a gun
mcduffie didnt have a gun

some cops are just not made to be cops, it requires self control and there is not enough testing for such behaviour

I can't believe you would bring up Rodney King. Tremendous... the dude was on Angel Dust, in a stolen car, and would not submit.

[Zonex]

I can't believe you would bring up Rodney King. Tremendous... the dude was on Angel Dust, in a stolen car, and would not submit.

so? cops are there to arrest people
the courts and penal system are used to punish people

that's the system and its a good one with one flaw, some cops can't control themselves and they usually get off
cities lose millions settling lawsuits

[free thinker]

so? cops are there to arrest people
the courts and penal system are used to punish people

that's the system and its a good one with one flaw, some cops can't control themselves and they usually get off
cities lose millions settling lawsuits

The man was a threat to innocent civilians in his state and in that car, and he became a threat to the police once he would not submit and continued to fight... what do you think he would've done once he got up if the police let him up, oh sorry about that. no, he would've continued fighting ... violently.

[someuser190826]

Hehe Rodney King...people in his state need to be constrained and roomed til they get to their senses and then punished.

[Zonex]

The man was a threat to innocent civilians in his state and in that car, and he became a threat to the police once he would not submit and continued to fight... what do you think he would've done once he got up if the police let him up, oh sorry about that. no, he would've continued fighting ... violently.

April 17, 1993 -- Koon and Powell were found guilty of violating King's civil rights. Briseno and Wind were acquitted. King won $3.8 million in his lawsuit against the city.

No sense arguing with you, I will let that speak for itself.

[Zonex]

Hehe Rodney King...people in his state need to be constrained and roomed til they get to their senses and then punished.

Exactly

[TruthElixirX]

rodney king didnt have a gun
the guy in the uk didnt have a gun
the kid slammed and punched on top of the cop car didnt have a gun
the guy surrendering in california didnt have a gun
mcduffie didnt have a gun

Dude..you named like five instances spanning I'd say at least 5 decades. Things happen, idiots slip through the tracks, and people get hurt. If cops quit carrying guns crime rates go up.

[someuser190826]

Dude..you named like five instances spanning I'd say at least 5 decades. Things happen, idiots slip through the tracks, and people get hurt. If cops quit carrying guns crime rates go up.

The thing is, no one here is stating that police should stop carrying guns, or that there shouldn't be police at all. The fact that every individual police thinks is the whole issue at hand. Every individual police officer makes their own individual moves -- when they are granted power, which I have no argument with, cause I like feeling safe -- any one of these individual police officers, that have the characteristic of thinking, can make intentional mistakes which otherwise would be called murder, discrimination, racism, or whatever.