Why don't vBulletin zend their php scripts?

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  • Norman
    New Member
    • Dec 2003
    • 25

    Why don't vBulletin zend their php scripts?

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  • Mike Sullivan
    Former vBulletin Developer
    • Apr 2000
    • 13327
    • 3.6.x

    #2
    Zend... as in Zend Encode? Well then you wouldn't be able to modify them. Despite the fact that we don't -- more correctly can't -- support modifications, it is an excellent advantage of a visible source language.

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    • Matthew Gordon
      Senior Member
      • May 2002
      • 3243
      • 1.1.x

      #3
      Why would they? A major advantage is that it can be modified to suit your needs. I'd switch to phpBB before I used an encrypted message board system.

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      • Shining Arcanine
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2003
        • 2482
        • 3.0.3

        #4
        Originally posted by Norman
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        Not everyone runs Zend Optimizer.

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        • ManagerJosh
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2002
          • 9922

          #5
          Originally posted by squall14716
          Why would they? A major advantage is that it can be modified to suit your needs. I'd switch to phpBB before I used an encrypted message board system.
          I second that except I'd go for IPB .
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          • Erwin
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2002
            • 2088

            #6
            Originally posted by ManagerJosh
            I second that except I'd go for IPB .
            If you ZEND encode vB php scripts, a lot of users would move to another product, as they wish to modify the scripts themselves.

            I would personally go to phpBB... Seems like it it easier to customise than IPB...
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            • Norman
              New Member
              • Dec 2003
              • 25

              #7
              But in the result, therw will be many illegal VBB products...

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              • Jerry
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2002
                • 9137
                • 1.1.x

                #8
                Originally posted by Norman
                But in the result, therw will be many illegal vB products...
                You can't stop that, there are many illegal things in this world, piracy will be a problem as long as software exists.
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                • welo
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 516
                  • 3.5.0 Pre-Release

                  #9
                  You see an awful lot of Zend encoded scripts right now from Russian developers mainly due to the extreme amount of piracy going on over there. I see their point but I won't be buying or recommending their scripts. Devs who encode their work make you wonder just what else they're hiding in the code (trackers, talkers, bots etc.), while also being able to conveniently hide what was coded like crap.

                  The day VB encodes this board is the day I move on.
                  "I can't seem to bring myself to say, 'Well, I guess I'll be toddling along.'
                  It isn't that I can't toddle. It's that I can't guess I'll toddle."

                  --Robert Benchley (1889-1945)

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                  • Guest

                    #10
                    The day VB encodes this board is the day I move on.
                    Ditto, the reason I love vB so much is that I understand the underlying code and can change it if I need or wish to.

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                    • Scott MacVicar
                      Former vBulletin Developer
                      • Dec 2000
                      • 13286

                      #11
                      We do have a Zend Encoder license but we wont be encoding our customers versions of vBulletin with it. Its for our other plans :dr-evil:
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                      • Mac Write
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 666
                        • 4.2.x

                        #12
                        If you sell another product that is Zen encoded I won't buy it, I want access to the full source code.

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                        • Matthew Gordon
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2002
                          • 3243
                          • 1.1.x

                          #13
                          IIRC from IRC, Scott mentioned something about a vB3 demo that was going to be Zend encoded.

                          Which makes sense since he said "our customers versions".

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                          • Chroder
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 1449

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Scott MacVicar
                            We do have a Zend Encoder license but we wont be encoding our customers versions of vBulletin with it. Its for our other plans :dr-evil:
                            Not customers versions, so you mean like a trial vBulletin?

                            Ah, squall14716 beat me

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                            • Dave#
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2000
                              • 1845

                              #15
                              Is it possible to patch zend encoded scripts?
                              http://forums.cpfc.org/

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