It seems to me that vbseo.com makes close to or more profit off vb than vb creators. They are making a KILLING of you guys. ($149 for a BRANDED license and more for unbranded.) They charge as much as and MORE for the add-on than purchasing vb forums software itself.
It works great except for CPU usage on large forums but I can only imaging how much more efficient it would be if vb made their own.
Maybe this should be considered for vb 3.8 or 4.0.
vBSEO doesn't add any extra load on the CPU at all. Very very large forums are using vBSEO without any problem at all and there are lots of more Big-Board sites that uses vBSEO without any problem. If your server resources are already not enough for your server then mod_rewrite will have negative effect on your server. That has nothing to do with vBSEO. Every product has a price , you may like it or not. A SEO product brings more visitors to your site therefore it helps you to make more money. Everybody i know make their money back pretty quickly by vBSEO.
While requesting something from anyone else try not to banish another product.
So.. you've created a software perpetuum mobile?Originally Posted by Lizard King
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If you want to discuss vBSEO you are welcome to discuss it @ vbseo forums. I am not here to market anything and get in a discussion regarding vBSEO here. I personally donot like helping threads get locked.
Excuse me, but it is not possible to run additional software on top without adding additional load, no matter how small the difference. The authors certainly would not make that claim.
Anyway, I don't have anything to add to another vBSEO thread except that charging more does not necessarily equal more profit.
vBSEO doesn't add any extra load on the CPU at all , i thought i made it pretty clear but it is obvious it is not clear enough for couple clever users. Of course every software will add additional load. The new SN features of vbulletin will add additional load as well. If Jelsoft will prepare something similar to vBSEO than it will add extra load as well. But these load levels are all minimal load increases. vBSEO's code is pretty optimized and has no effect as the user mentioned in first post.
vbseo is great script i take 300 400 visitors from google before vbseo after 7 8 months installation vbseo i take 1500 visitors from google. 2 months before my site enter dmoz now i am taking 3700 visitors everyday from google. 1 year before i am earning 10 20 dolars monthly from adsense afeter 8 months vbseo installation i earn 50 dolars monthly adsense. Now i am earning about 100 dolar from adsense.
So i think vbseo is great script.
Sorry for my english...
and also i am using vps p4 2.8 512 quarented and 1gb burstable. there 2 forums total 6000 hits no problem with vbseo....
Performance isn't the issue for vBSEO -- at least not for me. They clearly have a great product. So, for reasons that include functionality, ease of use, deeper integration, easier maintenance, etc, I would love to see Jelsoft acquire vBSEO and build the technology into every release. If an acquisition isn't possible for some reason, then creating a similar feature set (even fairly basic URL re-writing) would be great.
Last edited by Sharkman; Thu 29th Nov '07 at 11:04pm.
You are sadly, sadly mistaken. VBSEO has KNOWN issues with large sites. I know, for I have been working with Juan on it for MONTHS. Even with 5 PHP servers running out site, it can not keep up. Loads go from .75-1.25 to 5 or more. (Apache 2, Php5, xCache.) It has a major impact on loads.
it comes at a price if server is properly configered the your fine if its not and you get uber busy and stuff goes wackie chances are it can effect preformance big time.
Strangely, in David's case, we have not been able to keep his load to an acceptable level. However, after all the work he has done on configuration of his server, he probably has some great tips to share.
For instance, upgrading to the new version of Apache and PHP with xCache, showed excellent performance improvements on all of his machines. This is without vBSEO installed, however.
I think you might consider that vBSEO has had some issues with a few sites, but certainly NOT all large sites. In fact, the featured forum on our homepage now is the #1 most visited vBulletin forum in the world, and they are running successfully!
When you reach BigBoard status, server config optimization really becomes a must. And, it's by no means easy given all the multi-variate factors that can be tested, in combination with the varying applications that can be running server side.
While David's server is running acceptably WITHOUT vBSEO, we have noticed that his CPU performance is not doing great compared with lesser trafficked (as requests, 75% lower) sites we have compared. [CPU 0.0134% versus 2.12% - from Apache Server Status]
It is possible that if we could eliminate this issue, we could also get vBSEO up and running within the acceptable performance range as well.
Many thanks to David and several prominent big board admins who have been working on trying to figure out this server configuration issue.
I'm not, and not interesting in, discussion vBSEO. I am into discussion ridiculous claims being made.
If Jelsoft would integrate vBSEO functionality into vBulletin you will get a performance increase above what vBSEO currently does, although this will require various major code changes.
If the performance increase between vBSEO functionality through plugins or embedded in the core code has a noticeable is a different question.
Adding the vBSEO functionality in the first place will create an overhead, but nobody is forcing you to use it.
Claiming that there is no overhead is simply a lie.
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vbseo definitely has an impact on server load. Saying the opposite demonstrates a lack of understanding how the system works. all seo rewrite systems rely on the mod_rewrite features of apache. The more rules, the more additional server load of redirecting the tons of requests from /thread123 to showthread.php?t=123
Same here. We simply gave up on vbseo. All the help didn't help even access to pre release versions didn't help. There IS a load issue on large sites. With vbseo disabled the site uses less that 15% or resources. Enabled... more that 5 times that. As long as it works for you it's good.
I payed for vbseo AND renewed it after a year. So I'm not a cheap guy trying to start something. I'm just opening discussion...
Last edited by hydn; Mon 17th Dec '07 at 10:56pm.
the term rewrite says it all, as far as load. Even if Jelsoft created seo rewrite it would also have to add server load. The question is would the authors of vb be able to write better seo code? Hmmm
Last edited by hydn; Mon 17th Dec '07 at 10:59pm.
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