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Freddie Bingham

vBulletin Asset (or Attachment) Management Demo

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by Freddie Bingham on Fri 6th Feb '09 at 8:15pm (10743 Views)
As I have mentioned previously, a big change in vBulletin 4 involves the attachment system. I am currently working on a system that allows you to quickly reuse attachments through vBulletin and vBulletin products.

.. and so I have done a run through of the current state of the system for you to view.



http://www.screencast-o-matic.com/watch/cQn1o7nPG

If you didn't notice, this uses javascript, a lot of javascript, so if you don't have javascript enabled, then you will fall back to the familiar vB3 upload form.
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  1. nwingate -
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    Looks great Freddie... thanks for keeping us up to date. This stuff is so helpful for us to see.

    The only comment is when you drag a file from the library to the "browse" section to add it to the post. Probably not the best solution and may be a little confusing for users. But I'm sure that will change by the final.

    THANKS
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  2. Razasharp -
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    Thanks for the update Freddie - these videos are really helpful

    Just a quick note re uploading more than one attachment, is there anyway to control+click to select files that need to be uploaded? (Like photobucket.com) It just makes it really easy to upload lots of files.

    I guess there will be a new 'my attachments' page too? Wonder if it would be an idea to make that like photobuckets too? And add the option to allow hotlinking - with the option of adding a watermark (more like a plug than a watermark)... could be like a whole new area for vB...
  3. gamestar -
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    thanks. Just a question: do you consider using swfupload instead of yui uploader to upload files (with fallback for people without flash) ?
  4. Freddie Bingham -
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    The YUI uploader provides the interface to upload more than one file at a time, plus upload progress. If time permits, it will be added.
  5. TomJames -
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    Very nice, thanks for the blog entry!
  6. Fusion -
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    Looking great, Freddie. Thanks for keeping us in the loop.
  7. Gray Matter -
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    Very impressive, Freddie. Keep up the great work.
  8. Andy -
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    Hi Freddie,

    Thank you for the demo.

    On my forum I have almost 200,000 attachments. I have many members with 5,000+ attachments. I'm sure only the root folder will be used by most of my members. How will you address the problem of displaying so many thumbnails. Even if you only displayed the file names, that would be a problem.

    Could you perhaps make an option in Admin CP to use the legacy Attachment Manager? Just improve the legacy one to use only one instance of each attachment.

    It would be nice if a member uploads an image that is already an asset, the new upload would be discarded and the previous attachment id would be used. That way the user simply uploads an image and it will be attached to their post, even though the image was already an asset.

    Thank you.
  9. Lenni -
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    I'd have a similar problem like Andy. Currently I have 100.000 attachments with some users who uploaded a few thousands. Would there be a possibility of pages for the folders to browse through if pictures exceed a certain amount which is settable in the admin cp?
  10. Redseal -
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    Looks awesome! Nice work! I was going to ask about a progress bar and multiple select uploads but you answered the question already. What happens if there are multiple images with a name of image001.jpg and they get moved from a child folder to the root?
  11. Razasharp -
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    Thanks Freddie - hope the YUI uploader makes it.

    Any chance there is a way to display exif data of an image if it is embeded? That would be useful for lots of photography sites.

    How about a way to tag images too - and allow searching of them and the 'pages'/threads they have been posted in?
  12. Freddie Bingham -
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    Andy/Lenni

    You raise an important point that I failed to address. First, there will be a pagination option once a certain number of attachments is reached. I expect to make this number an admin option. Secondly, there will be multiple views. Probably List, Thumbnail, and Detailed. What you see now is the Thubmnail. List will probably just be a filename. Detailed will be the thumbnail, filename, filesize and upload date - depending on the amount of space that I have to work with. I will also add an option to use the current attachment manager, perhaps as a user option like the editor is. Lastly, regardless of the attachment manager, only one instance of an attachment's filedata is actually stored in the database, or filesystem, in vB4.

    Redseal

    The name of a file is unimportant to the actual system. Everything is managed via either a filedataid or an attachmentid.

    Razasharp

    Exif extraction will not be in this release. Attachment tags, probably not, but I am unsure on that.
  13. Lenni -
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    Great!~ Really looking forward to this huge improvement!
  14. Andy -
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freddie Bingham
    I will also add an option to use the current attachment manager, perhaps as a user option like the editor is. Lastly, regardless of the attachment manager, only one instance of an attachment's filedata is actually stored in the database, or filesystem, in vB4.
    That is great news Freddie, I will for sure use the legacy manager as I suspect many will.

    I'm curious how will you handle the issue where a user uploads an existing attachment.

    Another area of concern is what happens when an attachment bbcode is manually typed into a post such as this:

    [attach ]1234[/attach ]

    you will need to parse the post when it's submitted so that you know that particular post has a reference to that attachment. The only time an attachment instance will be deleted (the physical file) is when there are no posts referencing it.

    Thank you.
  15. Dream -
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freddie Bingham
    Redseal

    The name of a file is unimportant to the actual system. Everything is managed via either a filedataid or an attachmentid.
    Probably good to be able to edit file names in the Attachment Manager as well

    Also, a way of downloading files directly from the AM could be nice, and maybe an Ajax search by file name.
  16. Freddie Bingham -
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    Andy

    The system will detect any duplicate uploads, no matter who uploaded it, and reference the filedata that already exists in the system.
  17. Andy -
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freddie Bingham
    Andy

    The system will detect any duplicate uploads, no matter who uploaded it, and reference the filedata that already exists in the system.
    Excellent.

    Could you also answer the second part of my question when you have time. The part about manually typing in an attachment bbcode. Will you parse the pagetext and update the table that keeps track of which attachment is being used in which post.
  18. NolFito -
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    I think there should be an option too see all the attachments regardless of what folder they are in. I think it would be an incentive to be very organized, and provided a manner to find something if you really can't.

    Will there be some sort of search (filenames) function?

    Will admincp attachment stats be improved? Would be nice to see the list of all the people who have uploaded attachments, or how many, or a longer list of how much space people take.

    Maybe be putting how many attachments are in each folder would be a nice touch
  19. rellek -
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    Do I see it correct that it's impossible to continue typing the message while uploading files?
    That would be really a pity...
  20. pipedreams -
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    Freddie thanks for the update.

    I have one simple question, will this new attachment manager tie in with a user's profile as well, e.g. albums, avatar, profile picture etc? (I'm presuming already it will for the blog?)
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