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3.8 Feature Spotlight: Social Group Discussions, Categories

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I'm Darren Gordon and I've been with Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd for several months. I am currently tasked with bringing some new improvements to vBulletin with 3.8 later this year.

This week I'll be going over a couple of the most requested new features that have been announced.

Social Group Discussions
3.7 shipped with a flat, non threaded message wall in the social groups. The wall is great for leaving messages such as 'hey, nice group!' but isn't that useful when it comes to actually having a meaningful discussion about the chosen topic. In order to greatly enhance the ability of social groups to allow users to talk about their common interests, the social group messages have been threaded with the use of 'discussions'.

By default, the user who created the group can moderate their discussions and the messages within them. Another permission allows users to configure their social groups so that only they can create discussions within that group. This allows users to create social groups with greater control over the subject matter (kinda like a forum with limited 'Can Post Threads' permissions such as the Announcements). Because users can take control of their groups and can be given the primary responsibility for maintaining them, this also reduces the potential extra work for board moderators.

Discussions and messages now also have several features from forums and threads. This creates an interesting scenario where group owners can now see how moderators work with the forums, and allows them to get involved in their own space. Features included:

  • Full inline moderation (Discussions and Messages)
  • Quick Editing (Messages)
  • Subscriptions (Groups and Discussions)
  • E-mail Notifications (Discussions)
  • Social Bookmarking (Discussions)
  • Read Marking (Groups and Discussions)

With read marking, users can mark discussions or entire groups as read, as well as automatic marking when users have read the last post of a discussion, or the last discussion of a group.

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Social Group Categories
Each Social Group now belongs to a category. Categories allow users to find groups that are relevant to them, especially on larger boards. The categories are predefined by the board admins. As well as providing suggestions to the users for the kind of groups they could create, this also allows admins to encourage users to create social groups that are relevant to the board as a whole.

Categories are included in the advanced search filters, and can also be viewed individually. Selecting a category displays only the social groups that are in that category.

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When upgrading to 3.8, any existing social group messages will be moved into an initial discussion named after the group, and all groups will belong to the inital 'Uncategorized' category, which can then be modified by an admin.


The feature list for 3.8 is pretty much locked down now, but comments and feedback are always welcome I'll be posting again soon about as yet unannounced features in vBulletin 3.8. For now, you can take a peek at this...

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Updated Wed 13th Aug '08 at 5:14pm by Darren Gordon

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  1. Hatsu -
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    Hello Darren, nice to see you and your upcoming information

    Will there be a notification in "Your notifications" after new messages were posted in a social group someone is a member of?
  2. hornstar6969 -
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    look forward to hearing what the other features are. I think my members will appreciate them lots.
  3. Taragon -
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    Hi Darren,
    I have to say this is looking totally awesome. However like the current vB Blog product people aren’t able to see the amount of Views.
    Would it be possible to ad this perhaps?
  4. Fusion -
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    This will be interesting, indeed!
  5. rellek -
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    Looks good. Hope for more 3.8-information here :-)
  6. pipedreams -
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    wow looks good! Thanks for the update
  7. Ranger375 -
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    ...and a "delete all" button would be nice for the visitor messages that are soft deleted by members instead of having staff delete them one by one
  8. RvG -
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    you forgot how does the discussion looks like
  9. Razasharp -
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    Wow awesome stuff!!! This is what we wanted.. and MORE!

    Look forward to more updates Darren!
  10. Ryan Ashbrook -
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    Awesome.
  11. cheat-master30 -
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    Awesome, and is that a new layout shown for the social group main page?
  12. Razasharp -
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    Just a quick suggestion (I guess you have this covered, but just in case...) on the group page:

    Attachment 306

    Can we have at the bottom two columns, one on the left to show the latest posted 'threads' in groups, and the one on the right to show the latest 'comments'. Bit like the blog homepage.

    Also, can we have a new 'latest posts' page, but instead call it 'latest' and it includes everything from latest blog entries, to group threads to forum threads to pictures. Then have lower level, latest forum posts, latest group posts etc Basically we need something that is one click to all-the-latest-going-ons in the community/vb.
  13. waterwheel -
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    errr, can we get this in 3.7.3, please???
  14. TomJames -
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    Wow that looks brilliant, a massive improvement over the current version. Nice work, looking forward to more updates in the future
  15. Milado -
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    The social groups page is absolutely awesome!
  16. ---MAD--- -
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    Great first insight into 3.8 .

    I was wondering if you plan to implement a way to completely unsubscribe from everything you are subscribed to? Atm on some forums I am subscribed to a few thousand threads and it would take me days to unsubscribe myself from them page by page plus it will be really painful and annoying.

    Now that groups etc will also be subscribable (if that word exists :P), I was hoping this option would be available.
  17. Darren Gordon -
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taragon
    However like the current vB Blog product people aren’t able to see the amount of Views. Would it be possible to ad this perhaps?
    As we still support 800*600 with vB3, the group list view is pretty crowded as it is; however, as I think the people who are most interested in seeing the view count for a particular item is the person who created it, I may look at adding it to 'Groups You Created' as well as individual discussions - but I can't make any promises :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger375
    ..and a "delete all" button would be nice for the visitor messages that are soft deleted by members instead of having staff delete them one by one
    You mean page by page? Or do you mean something different?

    Quote Originally Posted by Razasharp
    Can we have at the bottom two columns, one on the left to show the latest posted 'threads' in groups, and the one on the right to show the latest 'comments'. Bit like the blog homepage.
    This was considered but won't be included this time for various reasons; mostly relating to the fact that some groups are 'Must Join to View Content'. We do recognise the benefit of content aggregation though.

    Quote Originally Posted by --MAD--
    I was wondering if you plan to implement a way to completely unsubscribe from everything you are subscribed to?
    There are plans for something similar, stay tuned.
  18. Razasharp -
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    This was considered but won't be included this time for various reasons; mostly relating to the fact that some groups are 'Must Join to View Content'. We do recognise the benefit of content aggregation though.
    Thanks for responding Darren

    Perhaps it could just be 'latest public activity'? I think that's a fair compromise to users (that they have to manually check 'private' groups for latest threads there)? I think it would really help boost activity in the groups.

    Personally I won't be allowing private groups as I wouldn't want anything illegal being posted on my sites.
  19. Darren Gordon -
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razasharp
    Perhaps it could just be 'latest public activity'?
    That would make sense

    Quote Originally Posted by Razasharp
    Personally I won't be allowing private groups as I wouldn't want anything illegal being posted on my sites.
    Admins and mods with the appropriate permission can view and moderate private groups as they would any other
  20. Ryan Ashbrook -
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    Looking great Darren!
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