• Should I upgrade to 4.0 or wait?

    by
    Joe Rosenblum
    Published on Mon 21st Dec '09 3:29pm
    84 Comments Comments
    Yes, of course! But.... when should you upgrade? Upgrading any major software platform should be carefully thought through beforehand; for many of you, vBulletin is the heart of your site. Here are some things to consider when upgrading:

    1. Have you installed any plugins or products? If so, check http://www.vbulletin.org (or your vendor's web site) to make sure there is a new, compatible version of your plugin before upgrading. You'll need to decide if the addon is critical to your board. If not, you will likely need to disable the plugin when you upgrade, until a newer version is available.

    2. Have you installed a custom theme or made any other major visual customizations to your site? The major improvements we made to the template system and the new XHTML site structure will cause most 3.x series themes to break. Check out
    http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/content.php?143-StyleVar-Visual-Dictionary-for-Forum-Blog-and-CMS-PDF-Documents
    for inspiration and education on how to work with the new system.

    3. Are you planning on doing a major new design or design upgrade for your 4.0 forum? There are some minor changes to the organization and conventions in the CSS style sheets in the 4.0.1 and 4.0.2 releases (the weeks of January 4 - 8 and January 18 - 22, respectively) that may affect any designs you do today. Bear in mind that this is a brand new major version release of the product and we're still assimilating feedback on what's best for our designers and skinners.

    4. Are you running a big board? We know that upgrading a big board can be complicated and has its own set of issues. Please refer to our installation best practice guide - we are working on creating a section that specifically addresses big board upgrade considerations.
    Comments 84 Comments
    1. kateido's Avatar
      vb 4.0 sucks.
      its ugly. i will not upgrade.
      Reply
    1. FF|Skyrider's Avatar
      Kateido, I'm afraid I don't find that a valid reason not to upgrade. Themes/Styles can be customly made and replaced if you don't like the default one.
      Reply
    1. Deadly Stream's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by kateido View Post
      vb 4.0 sucks.
      its ugly. i will not upgrade.
      Very constructive, well done.

      Quote Originally Posted by talkbolts View Post
      Tried to purchase upgrade today, but missed special pricing cut-off by just a few minutes. Who ends a promotional price in the middle of the day. Called and told by vBulletin sales that I was "...just out of luck".

      Will not upgrade to vBulletin 4 now. Currently looking for alternate forum software to vBulletin.
      You've had since Tuesday, 13 October 2009 which is 82 days to take advantage of the presale event and you haven't bothered and now that it's ended you're bitching that sales have said you're too late?

      It's really your own damn fault. Perhaps if vBulletin do another presale event they'll make it 83 days so people like you have time to buy
      Reply
    1. King Kovifor's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by talkbolts View Post
      Tried to purchase upgrade today, but missed special pricing cut-off by just a few minutes. Who ends a promotional price in the middle of the day. Called and told by vBulletin sales that I was "...just out of luck".

      Will not upgrade to vBulletin 4 now. Currently looking for alternate forum software to vBulletin.
      It may have been UK timing.
      Reply
    1. icarusforde's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by kateido View Post
      vb 4.0 sucks.
      its ugly. i will not upgrade.
      You have a right to your opinion.

      But I also have the right to say that I think your opinion is wrong.
      Reply
    1. icarusforde's Avatar
      No, I was told it ended at 12:00 pm PST (Pacific Standard Time). I had been trying to log in and make the purchase, but had forgot I recently reset my password. Finally found it in my email, but it was just a few minutes late. Called and was treated very poorly. vBulletin will be gone from my site soon as I can find a replacement.
      To be honest... If you forgot your password, and you waited to that late to try reset it and then get it, it was a recipe for disaster. Surely you would have seen that coming?
      Reply
    1. Deadly Stream's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by talkbolts View Post
      You should work for the vBulletin Sales Department. That was almost EXACTLY what they said word for word. Nice way to treat a customer huh?
      Come on be fair to them you have had more than enough time to buy it at the cheaper rate.

      Why did it take you so long to decide you want it?
      Reply
    1. Trekkan's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by talkbolts View Post
      You should work for the vBulletin Sales Department. That was almost EXACTLY what they said word for word. Nice way to treat a customer huh? Actually I haven't been active with vBulletin recently and just found out about the presale event but please continue with your high and mighty routine. It's amusing.
      Blaming others for YOUR failings will never amount to much anyway. It sucks, I'm sorry you didn't get in on the good pricing, but take some responsibility for yourself and suck it up.
      Reply
    1. anthonyparsons's Avatar
      Anyone who leaves the purchase to the last minute, honestly cannot be serious about trying to blame vbulletin for your own actions. People need to stepup and take responsibility for themselves. If you leave something to the last minute and miss out, then the only person responsible is yourself.

      I think this should get back on topic.
      Reply
    1. icarusforde's Avatar
      I thought I knew the password and it wasn't working, that's why it took so long and why I had to reset it. Who expires a promotion mid day anyway? lame
      Obviously vBulletin does. They told you when it was expiring. You had months to do it. You didnt. Tough cookies.
      Reply
    1. icarusforde's Avatar
      So how is it vBulletins fault that you were not looking?

      Seriously. If you have a problem, then take it to the staff, don't derail a conversation on an article.

      /stops feeding troll.
      Reply
    1. Loony BoB's Avatar
      Looking forward to playing around on a test location and heavily customising it for eyesonff.com's forums - I love getting new toys like this. It's going to have a potentially positive impact on our frontsite, too, so even better! Can't wait.
      Reply
    1. cbiweb's Avatar
      I'll be using it to start a whole new community, soon as I can think of a good concept for it.
      Reply
    1. PET's Avatar
      Yaaay! vB4 is here Just can't wait to upgrade. I think I will wait a bit for the upgrade since the hollydays are coming.
      Reply
    1. 0ptima's Avatar
      I want to upgrade, but I am dependent on hacks.
      Reply
    1. barcena's Avatar
      Quote Originally Posted by 0ptima View Post
      I want to upgrade, but I am dependent on hacks.
      Question:

      If I buy the Suite tomorow, will i have to buy anything at all on Jan-Feb when 4.0.1 etc will be released?.
      Reply
    1. liebedich's Avatar
      in 4.0 i can't find where to backup my forum in cpanel
      Reply
    1. the geek's Avatar
      Wait.
      Reply
    1. Kaelon's Avatar
      Hold off.
      Reply
    1. Anthony89's Avatar
      I am waiting indefinitely. No rush at all.
      Reply
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