vBulletin 3.0.0 'Gold' Released - Wanna Chat?

[Kier]

Didn't call this thread 'discuss' because it sounds too much like a nasty question in an exam...

Erm, anyway - as usual, please don't use this thread to ask for technical support or to report bugs. Please use the appropriate forums for that.

Off you go :)

[Zachery]

Weee how awsome :D

God the new smilies rock so hardcore:cool:

[Driv3r]

wow nice

[squall14716]

Third!

[paddysplace]

WOO! I'M THE 4TH ONE TO REPLY!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH VB DEVELOPMENT TEAM!

Wow, really been a long journey, over a year in the testing (much in longer in the making) and we finally have vB3 GOLD! Wow I could almost cry right now from happiness. I would just like to thank the development team for putting up with us, and for your COUNTLESS hours of development! I don't think there will ever be another forum brand that will ever surpass vBulletin (even the 2.x series can be considered legendary).

Cheers everyone! Today truly will be a day that our entire vBulletin community will NEVER forget!

Regards,
Patrick :')

PS: Yes, I was so excited that I typed this out in advance and had it sitting in a notepad document...

[Hyper22Shadow]

Awesome! DOWNLOADED :D

[Mmw]

7th :D very nice !

[DaPro]

Fourth, and wtf! I can't download this..

[Driv3r]

Im the 1st because its no fair the staff got in 1st :P

nice work Kier and team

[activegaming]

Looks great! I can't wait to install!

[minx]

wow, look it's VBGOLD!! ayyyy

-M

[Dan]

First to download techincally by the talk on irc :D

[Slybone]

sooooooooooooo nice

[Sephiroth189]

WOW kick ass job!

[mixx941]

Looking AWESOME so far! Got the tarball here and uploading now!!! :)

[CritterParadise]

Whoa! Definately amazing! Great job!!

[Shining Arcanine]

Didn't call this thread 'discuss' because it sounds too much like a nasty question in an exam...

Erm, anyway - as usual, please don't use this thread to ask for technical support or to report bugs. Please use the appropriate forums for that.

Off you go :)
I downloaded it 4 minutes after it was uploaded. There are new images, yay!

[LDEV]

Many thanks to the vB team! I'm off to upgrade our dev board! :D

[MattM]

Looks awesome, great job! :)

[BenSjoberg]

NICE IMAGES!!!

And one more thing:

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!



So, where's vB4? :p

[Jeiger]

Great!! Looks like it was worth the wait!! :D

[TheAnt06]

YOu are my hero Kier.

[conqsoft]

Got mine!

[Lumina]

Merci. :)

[sross]

Wooooooooooooooo

Hoooooooooooooooo

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Preds]

Got mine... server hasn't crashed yet... bet it will be in for some heavy traffici n the next few hours though!

[Zolk]

the GDK link in the members area is a 404

[bhall23]

kinda dissapointed w images myself. its like we are using phpbb now

[user00265]

HECK YESSS!!! :D

AT LAST! THE WAITING IS OVER! THANKS vB TEAM! :)

[Snowy]

fantastic guys and thanks for staying up so late to get it out :)

[Ashley52680]

Looks great!! Love the new graphics... to bad I don't use them! haha

[XYPHEN]

I'm not so happy with the graphics :S but nice and thank you for releasing it finally!

[Shane]

HUGE PRORPS TO KIER! Hail to Kier! Kier for Prime Minister of UK!

1.1.0 (as someone pointed out).. those days are out of here! :) I ment to say to this to all developers and support staff! :D

[Floris]

Great work Kier - you can finally goto bed and have a rest!

*runs it localhost without problems so far*

[Mr. HillBilly]

Documents should be accessible by members only.

[Equ1n0x]

Very nice :) Great work guys

[Ashley52680]

I do have a question... I have already downloaded it... but I haven't upgraded yet. Will all the people getting on there and downloading it and then upgrading cause any problems when I upgrade? I didn't know if it would slow the upgrade down any.

Thanks!!

[Shadow Duelist]

Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

[andrew johnson]

thank you
i may point out the admiin demo area needs more info

[VAN]

At last! Thanks for the great work, vB Team!

2 comments...

I think the new graphics are pretty tacky. Just my opinion, so don't take it personal.

What kinda server you running here? < 300 concurrent users and this place is dog slow.

::goes to members area to download::

[andrew johnson]

because site side pulling down all loads

i think kier noticed it

[Elicit9]

I aswell am not happy with the graphics :o but thank you taking the time to improve vb and make it better. Its now worth my $30 buck to update my owned license. :)

[Chroder]

Great :D Upgrading now :D

Hey, no new favicon?

[Ian Gordon]

I must say, I am a bit let down...from a overall aspect is just look like you installed a portal and updated some of the core graphics (buttons and icons). I know bugs were fixed and such but...i donno just a little bit dissapointed.

[LordJMann]

The new graphics seem alot tackier than the old ones... They just don't fit vBulletin like they should. Was a little surprised... The homepage doesn't look anything like I thought it would, was kinda hoping for something other than a portal (They are over-used to death). But none the less, good release.

[squall14716]

Check out the manual....

[conqsoft]

I must say, I am a bit let down...from a overall aspect is just look like you installed a portal and updated some of the core graphics (buttons and icons). I know bugs were fixed and such but...i donno just a little bit dissapointed.

Umm. What exactly did you expect? We have known for a long time that the style was finalized, and that only new graphics would be with the final version.

[Lacrosse Boy]

Wow... I am amazed! :D

[AutomatikStudio]

Yeah...I'm totally stoked that this finally got released...but I doubt I'll be using the graphics at all.

[Kier]

Check out the manual....
Small isn't it? ;)

[Chroder]

The new site is outstanding, and the manual is the best!!! I love it! But why no new favicon? No offense, but I hate this one!

[kerplunk]

One word:

Awesome

[mfinc]

One word:

Awesome Simply amazing work! Thanks for all your hard work!

[andrew johnson]

Small isn't it? ;)
thanks it more better now

one thing
purhase page needs a option to change money to your local country at start of order

[Ryan Crocker]

One word:

Awesome
Yup, I like. :)

[influence]

thanks for the release. been waiting for it. I wont be using the images though. Like someone said, they dont really fit vbulletin. makes it look alittle like phpbb but regardless, you guys deserve 100% of my respect for releasing it. great job staff. :cool:

[JAB Creations]

IT'S ALIVE! IT'S ALIVE! :eek:

[M1th]

Small isn't it? ;)



php.net style too (add comments) ;)

[mcncyo]

installed and so far working fine

[himerus]

Looks Awesome!!!! Will be upgrading shortly!!!! The new graphics look great...

Great work vBulletin Team. :)

[kyk0]

Amazing. The icons will take some getting used to though. :)

[SpeedysWorld]

Wow ... umm this just makes me think, I used to use illegal UBBS back in the day and I thought vB 2.2.5 SUCKED! THen I tried one from somewhere. And was members of tons. Loved vB. After I became a Admin of a vB I was like if I get a site I am buying a vB. That day came about a half a year ago and I got a vB now. And I saw the making of vB3 from the begining ... long struggle ... but we made it! Love the new graphics ... bit odd but hey it's all good.

- SpeedysWorld

[Rocky_BBQ]

Thanks, Looks great. :D

I thought the liquid style was now the default style?

Here at the VB forum it is still the "Fixed" style, not liquid. I had to go down to the bottom of the page and change it to view in "Liquid" style. No big deal, just wondering.

[ShAwNz]

Hmm..... some of the icons like the "post reply" look like their edges arent very smooth... BUT I LOVE THE SMILIES

:eek:

[Mr. HillBilly]

Kier some images have white backgrounds on them.. and their not smooth. Using the Grey style

[exasko]

I was hoping for better grapics :(

[daemon]

So awesome :D

I love how you included the coding standards in the manual! Great work!

[qoolventure]

good job, but need some time to get used to the new graphics.

[MistyMeanor]

It looks great!!!! I have been waiting a long time! Now if I can just get someone to install it over the one I have now! LOL!

[Ian Gordon]

Umm. What exactly did you expect? We have known for a long time that the style was finalized, and that only new graphics would be with the final version.
You know I honestly don't know, I guess I was thinking about it too much and thinking it would much more than it is.

[Funkworkz]

Installed, very good job.

[Gio Takahashi]

Not too shabby, though I will be remaking the graphics for myself.

Good job Kier and his team.

[SilentBlade]

downloader :)

[VAN]

Liquid wasnt the default for me either. I had to manually change it to view the Liquid skin. And after having done so, I must say that the New Thread Post Repl;y buttons look horrible with this skin. Jaggies and off color masking used in the transparency. Yuck.

But the software still kicks ass. :D

[Scott MacVicar]

the images are anti-aliased to make them look smoother :)

A GDK is included if you wish to change the images to match your design.

[Bema Jinn]

The graphics are too.... "bubbly" and "cutesy", but eh, look at winXP's icons.

Good work on going gold though!

*reports a bug into the tracker*

[copyninja]

YES gold is out, i cant wait to install it.

[eiko]

Good stuff, thanks for the effort.
Note to self: "Self, I've seen some of the sites run by some of the folks complaining about the new graphics" :eek:

[trackpads]

I cant find the GDK anywhere, including the Members Area?

[conqsoft]

I cant find the GDK anywhere, including the Members Area?

I was about the post the same question...

[Mike Sony]

Fantastic design and graphics, great website and manual. Can't wait to buy it! (let's pretend there's a very very happy smile here)

[Troak]

6 pages already, whoa!
Can't wait to upgrade!!!

[Steve Machol]

I cant find the GDK anywhere, including the Members Area?
http://www.vbulletin.com/members/membersupport.php

[jayk2]

WOW

Upgrading right now

Good fricken job

[Ozark]

Thank you vBulletin! :)

[Rocol]

Nice one vB Team .. excellent stuff :D :cool:

[Xcist]

Yay! About time! ^_^ Lol. I actually stayed near my computer most of the day just to get my hands on this thing. :D Thanks vBul team!

[Chroder]

Installed and working great! The upgrade was perfectly painless.

[admiralapril]

Thanks so much for all of the hard work that you do. :)

[Arkham]

IT'S ALIVE! IT'S ALIVE! :eek:
I was going to say something, but my avatar says it all.

"Unnnnmmmh...Smoooooke....Goooood...!"

[Chroder]

Yay! About time! ^_^ Lol. I actually stayed near my computer most of the day just to get my hands on this thing. :D Thanks vBul team!
Me too! I had work to do too, but I was too excited about this to get any done! So when I'm overdue, I'll just blame Kier :p

[tgillespie]

Good work vB. You guys have got something amazing here, and I know it will show. I don't think people understand the great barrier you guys created between you and the other forum software titles with your enormous manual. That will pay off big time I believe :cool:

Also, thanks for doing away with the traditional buttons and smilies. It was about time that someone broke away from the norm and did something fun :) As for you people complaining... Kier and the other devs didn't work so damn hard on the template system just so you could bitch about the default buttons. If you don't like em, get some new ones :p

[gizmoshere]

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

[Pirotess]

the images are anti-aliased to make them look smoother :)

A GDK is included if you wish to change the images to match your design.
I think the anti-aliasing failed. :p

Take a look at how they look on a black background on my site.

http://www.shadowedsoul.com

I'm going to mess with the GDK and hope it fixes them but I have a feeling Im going to have to replace them all with custom ones or revert to the 2.3.4 graphics. :(

[marcgo15]

Oh this is SWEET :)!

Good job vBulletin!!!!!!

[Ogden2k]

Wow, awesome job Jelsoft! :D

Can you replace the GDK thing for the older style images?

[fasteddie]

yippee! I got it working great now! Just need to reinstall the arcade! :)

http://www.yorkietalk.com

[sabret00the]

such very very very ugly graphics, ok that's not alot coming from a man who hates the default white and opts for the grey whenever possible but really the graphics really don't go with the rest of the skin.

i was also hoping we'd see some of the CMS technology on the main site :(

[sross]

shock horror :eek:

I thought with gold release there would be a phpbb to vb3 imported script. Is it just stashed somewhere I'm not looking? Reeeeeeeeeeeeallly need it! :o

[AZone]

WOW!

[ShadyNight]

OH ... MY ... GOD! It is AWESOME!

Love the new images and buttons!

Very cool! And only took me 1/2 from start to finish including redoing portal!

[Rein Masamuri]

hehe, very nice. anyone else notice the post reply button isn't quite transparent yet? LOL

[sabret00the]

shock horror :eek:

I thought with gold release there would be a phpbb to vb3 imported script. Is it just stashed somewhere I'm not looking? Reeeeeeeeeeeeallly need it! :o
it'll be out next week.

[Chroder]

shock horror :eek:

I thought with gold release there would be a phpbb to vb3 imported script. Is it just stashed somewhere I'm not looking? Reeeeeeeeeeeeallly need it! :o
http://www.vbulletin.com/members/import.php
Has all the info on everything :cool:

[Wayne Luke]

I think the anti-aliasing failed. :p
It didn't fail, you have to anti-alias them to what ever background you want to use. That is the whole point of it in graphic's work.

[AZone]

:eek: - I like this particular smilie!

[sweet22]

i dont see an upgrade html file for upgrading from rc to gold.

[Wayne Luke]

All you have to do is upload the files and run upgrade.php. It is the exact same process as upgrading from any beta to gamma to RC to final. If you need more instructions than that, check out the manual.

http://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/run_upgrade

[AZone]

Is there Graphic Developer's Kit for vB3? I cann't find it in the Members Area...

[ReveX]

:rolleyes: <-- ms paint mouth !! :P

[jayk2]

Dont know if this is the right place to ask, but does that portal page come with this version? or is that a different portal proggie?

[[FG]Omega]

Congrats to all :D

[SVTBlackLight01]

Great work guys. I'm just glad I can upgrade my site. :D :D

[Wayne Luke]

Is there Graphic Developer's Kit for vB3? I cann't find it in the Members Area...
http://www.vbulletin.com/members/membersupport.php

[cyburbia]

Flawless upgrade. Good work, all.

Had to make new images for whos_online.gif, stats.gif and birthday.gif to better fit with the XP-ish look of my board. (I'm working on a GNOME-like theme, too)

http://www.cyburbia.org/forums/

[Wayne Luke]

Dont know if this is the right place to ask, but does that portal page come with this version? or is that a different portal proggie?
The vBulletin front page is custom for our site and is not a shipping program at this time. The developer's will be meeting soon to discuss future projects and timelines for them.

[timeason]

Thanks, everyone! My members are lovin' it! :D We appreciate the hard work!

[Ashley52680]

Upgrade went smoothly!!

http://simply-baby.net

[AZone]

http://www.vbulletin.com/members/membersupport.php
Thank you!

[chas_h]

Upgrade went well, and I know the manual is going to come in very handy after all these weeks of poking about without it....:rolleyes:
Thanks for all your hard work, it shows in a very nice final product.

Chas.

[PranK]

You guys rock! Thanks!

Christian

[Lurk]

yay, it's finally here!
Congratulations Jelsoft and vBulletin Team, as this is an excellent release. A huge improvement from vBulletin 2, both style and features.

[briangumble]

Well, what if you liked the old graphics/smilies better?:confused:

[conqsoft]

Well, what if you liked the old graphics/smilies better?:confused:

Why not continue to use em?

[Chris Blount]

Upgrade went perfect! Congrats to the entire VB team!

http://www.dbstalk.com/index.php

[briangumble]

Why not continue to use em?
When you upgrade, you can keep the old graphics?:confused:

[Lurk]

I'm going to upgrade my forums tomorrow morning.

Btw, can someone help me choose a topic for my forums?
a main topic, to make the forums based on..

Does anyone here know how i can get my forums active? Please, i desperately need it :(

Congrats again vBulletin Team :)

[Orfejs]

The new graphics are rather too XP ... that's a pitty

[conqsoft]

When you upgrade, you can keep the old graphics?:confused:

Sure. Just don't upload the new images.

[sweet22]

if upgrading from rc4 do we have to do those template changes?

[poolking]

I like the look of the new graphics. I won't be upgrading this weekend though. I'm too busy. :D

[Oblivion Knight]

As expected, I'm not overly keen on the new graphics..
I mentioned on vB.org that I wasn't a big fan of change.. ;)

Excellent job all the same, I will be installing over the weekend..

[Matthew]

Are the images ment to have little bits of white space around them? You can't notice it here but on a darker backgroud you can.

Apart from that everythings great. :D

[cLord]

Upgraded!
Not a single problem to report...

ThanX guys, great job!
cLord :)

[MrNase]

omg, this images really suck.

They look to much '3D' or to blurred. Hard to describe really.

And those new smilies don't fit to the professional vB3 style. They look like they came from a kindergarten community.


All in all very disappointing. Now i don't know why i wanted that images so badly. I can only hope some will make new images and post them over at vbt.com.

throw stones at me, come one :)


this thread is for the release only so i won't comment the doc and the frontpage. Ah one word to the documentation: great ;)

[Joe]

Wow, amazing download speed for the amount of users online:

[TC1]

Great Job! Thanks to the vbulletin team for all of your hard work, it was worth the wait. :cool:

[frederics]

Nice =).

[Mackem]

I don't believe its actually out!!! Looks kind the same as the RC tho =\, was kinda hoping for something a bit better, but no biggies, not guna judge a book by its a cover

[GamerzWorld]

Great thing to wake upto :)

[Synchro]

n1, congrats.

[apostle83]

These new smilies suck.

[shadowsong]

Strange smilies :rolleyes: :o :D
the older were better

[Salazar]

You've done a great job, you guys at Jelsoft. :cool:

But it's a pain in the ass that I ordered my license at vbulletin-germany.com. They decided to release vbulletin 3.0.0 'Gold' not until Monday. Crap! :mad:

[AutomatikStudio]

VICTORY IS MINE! Whew...took me close to 5 hours to re-hack my boards after upgrading. NOW I'M OFF TO SLEEP!

[twollert]

You've done a great job, you guys at Jelsoft. :cool:

But it's a pain in the ass that I ordered my license at vbulletin-germany.com. They decided to release vbulletin 3.0.0 'Gold' not until Monday. Crap! :mad:I agree with that. Good job, guys!

I'm also waiting for the German version. :mad:

The only good thing is, that you still can download the "Graphics Develop Kit vBulletin 2" from vbulletin-germany.com. ;)

I consider to use the old images, because they are looking much more professional.

[Chaotic Reality]

Upgraded...good job all...thanks. :)


J.

[Paul_M]

Well done on finally releasing the finished product!

I have to agree with several others though that the graphics are dreadful, very childish looking. Also on this site the "New Thread" and "New Reply" buttons are extremely poor, with "bitty" white marks around them/on the background. But like others it's no big deal, I'll just stick with the old ones.

:)

[boatdesign]

Great job on the relase :) Thank you! Thank you!

The only thing I'm not excited about are the new graphics. They seem both jagged-edged yet somewhat blurry at the same time. Maybe it's just my flat screen here, but the old graphics are much crisper then the new ones.

Is there any chance there will be additional new image sets provided, maybe a more serious less 3D less Windows XP / Invision board looking and maybe a sharper set? If not, thats ok too. I liked the old ones and can continue to use them and be 100% happy.

[Eric Blair]

I've upgraded through every one of the betas and each of the RC's. Tonight I upgraded to Gold.

Smooth upgrade, and everything is running FAST and reliably.

vBulletin Team, you guys are the best. Thank you for all of your hard work!

:)

[Wayne Luke]

I have to agree with several others though that the graphics are dreadful, very childish looking. Also on this site the "New Thread" and "New Reply" buttons are extremely poor, with "bitty" white marks around them/on the background. But like others it's no big deal, I'll just stick with the old ones.
Actually, they are anti-aliased for the white background and not the gray background. I would suspect that gray versions of the graphics will come eventually. The default style though is a white background.

[RGSerge]

Whoo whoo great thing to wake up to, but chances are I wont have time to install until Sunday night :(

And I just pulled one of my girlfriends curls (hair ;)) from my keyboard, its hella long. Cant be good.

I actually kinda like the new graphics, the only ones I am a bit iffy about are the folders. They seem a bit flat in comparison to the other images.

But great work guys (downloads). :)

[egyptsons]

:cool: greaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttt
work
I will try :rolleyes:
and back with many noooootes ;)

[Mirical Bernd]

I have upgraded our production-board now, went without problems in about 15 minutes (including backup of database). Already installed one hack again. And will install others next week.

About the graphics: Don't worry too much about the ones who don't like them. I for my part love them. The old ones where too business-like. The new ones are perfect and I will make them available sooner or later on our board too. Mostly because our board is a comic-board and it needs some fresh graphics :) But also because the old reputation-button has one big problem. On it you see a "Haken" (Hook in english) and a "Kreuz" (Cross in English). And if you ask someone to use the "Haken-Kreuz-Taste" (Hook-Cross-Button) in order to give a reputation in Germany this is not that good... The "Hakenkreuz" was the symbol of the nazis. And there was one who was complaining about this. *sigh* The new reputation-button is MUCH better :)

And who doesn't like them: Make your own. :rolleyes: Or ask at vbulletintemplates.com or on other style-sites for different ones. It's not that hard to do that. Or use the Graphic Developer Kit to change them - or whatever.

[Obesta]

hmm, good to get my hands on the Gold at last, but as the guys have said above, I’m not too impressed with the graphics :(. They just don’t seem to have that ‘solid’ feel anymore. Think I’ll stick with the old ones.

[Zachery]

I have upgraded our production-board now, went without problems in about 15 minutes (including backup of database). Already installed one hack again. And will install others next week.

About the graphics: Don't worry too much about the ones who don't like them. I for my part love them. The old ones where too business-like. The new ones are perfect and I will make them available sooner or later on our board too. Mostly because our board is a comic-board and it needs some fresh graphics :) But also because the old reputation-button has one big problem. On it you see a "Haken" (Hook in english) and a "Kreuz" (Cross in English). And if you ask someone to use the "Haken-Kreuz-Taste" (Hook-Cross-Button) in order to give a reputation in Germany this is not that good... The "Hakenkreuz" was the symbol of the nazis. And there was one who was complaining about this. *sigh* The new reputation-button is MUCH better :)

And who doesn't like them: Make your own. :rolleyes: Or ask at vbulletintemplates.com or on other style-sites for different ones. It's not that hard to do that. Or use the Graphic Developer Kit to change them - or whatever.
I agree, vBulletin before was very hard cut Business like, and that barely fits a good chunk of the customer base. besides, you can still use the old images :) ;)

and there are sites like vBulletintemplates.com and other pay for style companys :)

[mwhoob.net]

greaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttt

:cool: :( :confused: :eek: :rolleyes: ;)

[ProgScan]

A lot of rudeness over the icons - I quite like them, a definite improvement over the old set.

Nice work fellas.

[]SK[]

Congrats vB

[Breaker]

Very nice new gfx except these nice big chunky ones, but i guess you make your own styles for a reason :)

[Mephisteus]

4 am... glad I went to bed :P

yay

[flamingpeach]

We're upgrading our forum now :)

Thanks VB, your hard work is appreciated!

[Paul_M]

Actually, they are anti-aliased for the white background and not the gray background. I would suspect that gray versions of the graphics will come eventually. The default style though is a white background.
That's the problem when you anti-alias "transparent" gifs, it's going to make life more difficult for those who modify styles. I know the old gifs might not be so "fun" or whatever these new ones are, but they were very easy to put across various styles and colours.

However, only having graphics to grumble about means you've obviously done a good job on the coding, which is by far the more important issue!

[Grover]

Well....

The negative
The graphics : the moment I saw them for the first time I thought 'My god!'. I honestly was a bit dissappointed. I totally agree with was has been said in this thread about them (tacky, childish, not professional, doesn't fit with the great VB overall style, etc...) I sometimes do not understand the decisions Jelsoft makes concerning the graphical layout of VB (remember the AdminCP style before the default VB3 style was available).

The positive
Everything else! : the moment I saw The Manual (with a capital M) for the first time I thought 'My God'! :) It is really unbelieveable what you guys did with this VB3 manual. I am overwhelmed by it : it is really fantastic.

In the end the negative part of this Gold release (the graphics) is not really an issue, because this graphic-release will motivate the community to develop better graphics on their own.

Seeing all these PHPBB2 boards over the net I must say that with this VB3 release I am very proud to own/use a VBulletin board. Thank you for accomplishing that!

[UKDude]

Me not being one to post much, but I have got to say on this one,

Well Done!

Thank you to all the team who have worked damn hard on this.

P.S. The icons are great but will take a little getting used to as with anything new ;)

[Faruk]

*doesn't read all of thread because of time issues*

Good stuff Kier and all of Jelsoft, congrats on getting out a great product. :)

[Daniel P]

Good job everyone on this new release! Nice images Kier, excellent product vBulletin team :)

[alz]

You guys rule !!
I am lovin the images - they are awesome !!

Just wanted to say a big thanks for a fantastic piece of software - my members were loving RC4 -they now get gold and new icon set..

Take a well earned break and feel the pride !!;)

[MtoR]

the vbulletin developper team has really done an awesome job for releasing vBulletin 3

It might have takes times but the result is really impressive.

Thanks for all the great work you've done so far and continue like that we'll be happy to continue following vbulletin steps ;)

[DertyLee]

Excellent job!

We love the new graphics. ;)

[Aros]

Seriously, kick ass!

[Diver]

this is a really great release exept for the graphics ;)

[Dean C]

Yep didn't read everything. Manual is great but the thing that has really disappointed me are the final graphics. They're far too big and bulky for my liking and sorry to say this but they look amateurish. Other than that great job and it's finally nice to be able to run a stable release ;)

[JAWilliams]

I like all the new images, other than the big clunky icons on the home page - I think the buttons and smilies are nice

[Mirical Bernd]

BTW: I downloaded the GFX-Kit and recoloured the buttons - also translated them to german - and I didn't anti-alaise them. It works better from my point of view. Take a look here: http://www.comicforum.de/comicforum

[ZranX]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but will the online manual be made available for download? I run a local server for development and I like having manuals like that one available to me while I code without having to be online, just like with the php manual etc. I know there is the "all on one page" file, but I prefer having it all divided in the frames like in the online manual. Any feedback is appreciated.

Btw, great work on vB3 Gold, will be upgrading my forums to it very shortly. :)

[Mark.B]

I am delighted the hard work has now come to fruition and vb3.0.0 has gone gold..well done guys!

I'll be upgrading my development board soon so I can start work on hacking it, the intention being to upgrade the main board some time in the summer.

The new graphics are good, EXCEPT the last post arrows...the old ones were very distinctively vbulletin and to me were almost like a seal of quality for a board, the new ones just look like any other board which is a shame. But that's a very minor grumble and I'd like to congratulate the whole team on a superb job that should keep vB at the forefront of forum standards for a long time to come!

[TonyG]

I like the new graphics, they do suit the new style more then the graphics on the RC did.

Well done! :)

[pablo]

kudos to one and all.

[DWZ]

kinda dissapointed w images myself. its like we are using phpbb nowYes, I must agree. I am, well, disappointed with the new images. The first thing that came to mind when I loaded was the forums was "is this phpBB?" I've always thought of vBulletin as a more professional, business type forum.

But these new pictures, are, just... too "MSN" like...

I think I'll be sticking to the old ones. Are there any new images (I mean, I know they are all new, but are there any new images with new file names?) so if I were to keep the old images, would anything stop working?

[Mirical Bernd]

Of course you can always keep the old ones. Just take them from the RC-archives - there are all :)

[Olate]

I got up this morning and went directly to vbulletin.com and to the forums and was seriously disappointed.

It is good to finally have vB3.0.0 out as the latest version. I will, of course, be upgrading to this version. However, as many people here and on my own forums have said, the graphics are a BIG disappointment.

I understand that some people want something new and original but I feel that the new images let the default style down. The similies do not go with the default blue and I preferred the RC similies. The post icons look tacky, really tacky, and are too big and don't go with the professional blue/silver style. The other images are ok, but not great. One of the major plus sides of vB when I reviewed it for my site and Sitepoint was the default style and graphics - they were professional and went well with the default style. Now they don't.

Of course, that doesn't really matter if you're not intending to use the default style, which many people won't be. And there is still the GDK. However, I shall be - the blue goes with my site colours and although I shall be editing some of the colour scheme, I do want to use the default imageset. Now I won't be - I shall either find a new set or use the RC images.

Perhaps Jelsoft could release a tarted up RC imageset. There were some images there that still used the old vB2 purple and I'm sure it wouldn't take too long to change them to blue. People could then have the choice to use the new ones or stick with the old ones.

I suppose that is just my opinion. vB is still the best forum software available, just the default images that let it down.

[Floris]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but will the online manual be made available for download? I run a local server for development and I like having manuals like that one available to me while I code without having to be online, just like with the php manual etc. I know there is the "all on one page" file, but I prefer having it all divided in the frames like in the online manual. Any feedback is appreciated.

Btw, great work on vB3 Gold, will be upgrading my forums to it very shortly. :)Please read the announcement - it has links to the manual (online, print, download)

[Fusion]

Jolly good work, guys. :)

[swimclub]

Very simple upgrade from RC4 to Gold.

No problems at all.

I'm a happy man :D

Chris
www.swimclub.co.uk (http://www.swimclub.co.uk)

[SmasherMaster]

Nice. Gonna upgrade soon!

[Dani]

Congrats to vB dev.
Congrats to Jelsoft.
Congrats to me for d/l and installing at 3am (took me less than 3 mins) and I have no idea why.
Congrats to you all for making a community of communities that'll last forever :D

Two small things to point out:
- I must say that I agree with a bit of a disappointment with the new images. Not that big of a deal.
- version.js is not updated yet (in version.vbulletin.com), I am sure everyone just wanted to rest, but I'll point that out anyway so no one forgets :D

[I-Web]

No pain involved whatsoever

[Dart1337]

omg, this images really suck.

They look to much '3D' or to blurred. Hard to describe really.

And those new smilies don't fit to the professional vB3 style. They look like they came from a kindergarten community.


All in all very disappointing. Now i don't know why i wanted that images so badly. I can only hope some will make new images and post them over at vbt.com.

throw stones at me, come one :)


this thread is for the release only so i won't comment the doc and the frontpage. Ah one word to the documentation: great ;)I agree with every word.

[Driv3r]

Upgraded my forums last night did't take long at all! :)

[Paprika]

OMG @ the Images.... i can't believe this.. :(

Takes you back to the playful days on certain other forum software titles....

[PitchouneN64ngc]

New graphics are not really... nice to see, I prefer RC ones.

[Skinny]

Great work guys. Good to see v3 Gold out at last. Incredible work, main page looks great, user manual is excellent.

However with the announcement of new graphics for Gold, I cant help to be disappointed in them. They just dont look all that good. I guess I was expecting something a little more sharper (yes, anti-alias, i know). But they are only graphics, and I can change these to suit my forum.

No biggie. The main aspect, the forum, itself, is superb.
Thanks again all at vBulletin.

[Kalakov]

sweet :cool:


gonna do a fresh install best way to avoid problems :D

[ShAwNz]

My forum peeps are going crazy over VB3 gold :eek:

Great job vbulletin peeps ;)

[Electronic Punk]

Updated :)

You might wanna switch the order of vb3 and vb2 on the forum homepage :p

[zerind]

Upgrade to 3.0.0 complete @ http://www.eurotechniks.com .. Can't begin to tell you how happy I am with the ease and quality of the upgrade process and software. I'll be converting from my leased license to a full license this week!

[Bigwrenn]

Updated!:)
Job well done, VB3 Gold is wonderful! Thanks.:D

http://www.bigdoubleurc.com/forums

[StevenTN]

Is there an image kit so that I could change the backgrounds of the buttons in Photoshop?

[jayk2]

The vBulletin front page is custom for our site and is not a shipping program at this time. The developer's will be meeting soon to discuss future projects and timelines for them.
Right on,

Thanks.

Also, upgraded last night before I posted that thread. I have a pretty large forum, upgrade was done inside of five minutes. Zero flaws. I thought for sure something was wrong, but all is well.

Excellent job guys.

Remember, cant please everyone all the time

[delaen]

Tremendous job on the forum guys. This is fantastic software, and I even like the new images.

However, if I weren't already a loyal customer, I don't think the new website would sell me. It's too generic now, and doesn't have the focus the other one did. Plus the font is tiny, which is harder to read and doesn't capture my attention nearly as well. Plus there is too much going on. With the old site, reading the benefits of vBulletin seemed like it was obviously the part I should be focusing on, but now with everything so small and bland I'd probably just move on to the next site.

/my worthless opinion

[Semperfidelis]

Way to go devs
Go and have yourself a whole heap of well deserved beers
:)

[Feran]

*dances around* Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!! *dances around* Yaaaaaaaay!! *crashes into a wall*

*huggles vB developers* ^-^

[Mas*Mind]

sorry, but the images look terrible. Is there a style to choose on these forums which makes use of the old images?

[Rocky_BBQ]

I got up this morning and went directly to vbulletin.com and to the forums and was seriously disappointed.

It is good to finally have vB3.0.0 out as the latest version. I will, of course, be upgrading to this version. However, as many people here and on my own forums have said, the graphics are a BIG disappointment.

I understand that some people want something new and original but I feel that the new images let the default style down. The similies do not go with the default blue and I preferred the RC similies. The post icons look tacky, really tacky, and are too big and don't go with the professional blue/silver style. The other images are ok, but not great. One of the major plus sides of vB when I reviewed it for my site and Sitepoint was the default style and graphics - they were professional and went well with the default style. Now they don't.

Of course, that doesn't really matter if you're not intending to use the default style, which many people won't be. And there is still the GDK. However, I shall be - the blue goes with my site colours and although I shall be editing some of the colour scheme, I do want to use the default imageset. Now I won't be - I shall either find a new set or use the RC images.

Perhaps Jelsoft could release a tarted up RC imageset. There were some images there that still used the old vB2 purple and I'm sure it wouldn't take too long to change them to blue. People could then have the choice to use the new ones or stick with the old ones.

I suppose that is just my opinion. vB is still the best forum software available, just the default images that let it down.Yes.

Don't forget vb dev's....not all admins of forums are knowledgable in changing, editing, creating new graphics etc. There should be any easy method for the less PC-savy admins to change their graphics either back to the old or to new future graphics that are much more attractive and appealing.

Otherwise, there will be many people unhappy with the way their forum looks and not be able to correct the situation....then they will just be stuck with a forum they are not happy with.

Maybe there could be a script package that will install the modified or new graphics with little confusion for these people.

In situations like this, I find it very frustrating that everybody's answer to these things is "well, you can change it back" or "you can create your own" or "you can find new graphics and add them". Well, this is fine for those of you that know how to do this....there are paying vb customers that do not know how to do these things.

Please come up with a simple method for those of us that don't know how to do these things ok?

Thanks.

[Brandy]

Thank you Thank you Thank you for an EASY UPGRADE INSTALL!!!!!

I've had a lot of different programs to upgrade and install - and this one was BY FAR the best!:)

[Amiga]

I think i can say that i really dont like the new graphics..

But hey! They're editable. And they ARE made well, alone, they look really good, i just think they look too big and chunky right now.. :)

Nice one gettin it out guys. :)

[Arkham]

Please come up with a simple method for those of us that don't know how to do these things ok?
I don't think you'll have to wait long for third-party graphics to start appearing. Keep your eyes open on vbulletintemplates.com.

[Mmw]

Can't please them all, I like them. Just upgraded my forum without a hitch :)

[Wayne Luke]

Please come up with a simple method for those of us that don't know how to do these things ok?

There is... Upload the graphics from the RC before this or use the vBulletin 2.X graphics kit and rename them as appropriate. The image list is in the Beta 7 release announcement.

[StevenTN]

In some ways, the new buttons look a lot like IPB (Invision Power Board for those who don't know). That I'm not too fond off. That's why I was curious as to whether there was an image kit available for vB3. But, I'm going to stick with my existing images for now I think.

[blockcipher]

You guys did some amazing work! Definitly worth the wait. I, on the other love the graphics.

:o

[Bryan Ex]

As expected the new graphics are the talk of the town with all the fixes and updates all but ignored. Personally I'm split on liking them or not. I think the buttons for "Post Reply", "Quote", "Quick Reply", online indicators,etc turned out very nicely and look better than the old VB2 versions however many of the icons, like those for new messages in the various forums, are too AOL-ish IMO. Just seems to take away from the professional image of VB and tailor it toward the less experienced home user types. As Wayne pointed out, they are easily changeable for those that wish to.

For me the big thing is that VB is now finally "final" and other companies will no longer be able to use the "we're waiting for final release" excuse to update their own integration scripts. Credit goes to PhotoPost.com for keeping up with each and every RC but many others out there have not bothered and are just now starting to look at supporting VB3 integration.

Let's remember what's important here... we now have all the bug fixes and an officially stable forum on our sites.

[Arkham]

Incredible job on the manual. I'm looking forward to the PDF version.

I've just printed out the manual, which came to 188 scaled (2pp/sheet) pages. That's a lot of bathroom reading. :D

[catocom]

There is... Upload the graphics from the RC before this or use the vBulletin 2.X graphics kit and rename them as appropriate. The image list is in the Beta 7 release announcement.

*not directed a anyone in particular*
Yeah I don't understand why some people don't backup regularly. :confused:
I'm a backup freak myself. If I don't like something, or have problems,
the backup will be back in place (with in the hour) until I get it worked out. ;)

[Orfejs]

The icons are really silly.
Change them back or make new ones, these are stupid!

[Rocky_BBQ]

I already deleted my copy of the RC

[amgqmp1]

Wanted to drop a quick line to congradulate the vBulletin team on the release of so many new things at the same time!

Thank you for your hard work and dedication. And remember not to read your own forums too much...people can be rather nasty...;)

[bob46802]

good job vb team, im glad I am not in your shoes having to deal with all the whiners that are complaining about simple things

[good2laugh]

The icons are really silly.
Change them back or make new ones, these are stupid!

This is a little rude. I also am not over keen on them all - some I like though, I think if people are really against them, they could use the old icons or create their own set - there are also sites which offer sets of icons (often for free) but there is certainly no need to demand someone changes them, at least not in this tone. It's fair enough we don't like something but maybe we could be a little more appreciative that we've got gold.

I'm very glad to get the Gold release, the kits and the manual - I'm hopeless at graphics so although I'm not 100% keen on them, they are still 1000 times better than I could create so I appreciate the work that has gone into making them, thank you.

[HR3rdGen]

Guess I owe quite a few people $10 dollars now. :(

[Arkham]

Guess I owe quite a few people $10 dollars now. :(
Look at it this way: you'll be helping to test their sites' PayPal integration. ;)

[RichM]

It isn't bad but i am not too keen on the smilies, they don't blend in.
On my board, i am using IPB's smilies lol.

[And]

Vb Cooool!!!!! :)

[himerus]

I agree, I like the new icons, and am happy to have the final vB 3 version released finally!!!!

ISP Forum (http://www.myispforum.com/)

[Thomas2485]

I love the bugfixes, the manual, and the fact we're finally Gold... though I too dislike the graphics. I'll just design of my own then. :)

[KimmiKat]

Great work, and the updated website is very good and easy on the eyeballs, both of them!

[floleb7]

i dislike the new graphics too
less clear than the old graphic set
anyway graphical can be changed so good work devs :D

[Rocky_BBQ]

Too bad they didn't release some of the new graphics with the RC versions,
so they could have received feedback on how customers like them. That would have allowed time for changes to be made before the Gold release, so the graphics would have been something the majority approves. Seems like only a few people have expressed any positive feedback regarding the new graphics.

I definitely think the main website looks much better. :)

The bug fixes and other improvements are outstanding !!

[Mirical Bernd]

Too bad they didn't release some of the graphics with the RC versions, so they could have received feedback on how customers like them. That would have allowed time for changes to be made before the Gold release, so the graphics would have been something the majority approves. Seems like only a few people have expressed any positive feedback regarding the new graphics.
When about 30 users of over 30.000 disagree, you call that a majority? Oh come on. If it would be 3.000 who disagree, now that would be a nice disagreement. How about the ones who don't say anything?

I would recommend opening up a poll and see what it says.

[fofusion.co.uk]

The images make it look cheap and nasty like ones on yabb or phpbb or invision.

Ah well ive bought skins anyway so i dont care.

[Rocky_BBQ]

It is a shame though, to have to revert backwards when using the latest, Gold version. Seems like that is counter-productive to have to use parts of old releases to make the Gold release seem right. Shouldn't the latest release (the Gold), have the most popular features that the majority of the paying customers prefer?

[Rocky_BBQ]

I am talking about the paying customers (admins) who run the forums, not the members of the forums.

The posts on this forum should be representative example of the percentage of the overall customers.

The hard core customers hang out on this forum and seem to be the ones that care the most about vb3. The majority of the posts on this forum seem to say that they do not care for the new graphics. I think this represents a true demographic of vb3 admins.

[Rocky_BBQ]

When about 30 users of over 30.000 disagree, you call that a majority? Oh come on. If it would be 3.000 who disagree, now that would be a nice disagreement. How about the ones who don't say anything?

I would recommend opening up a poll and see what it says.I agree 100%!!! :)

A poll on this subject would be very good indeed. I also think that everybody should run this same poll on their own forums just to see what all the members think about this.

[Wayne Luke]

The posts on this forum should be representative example of the percentage of the overall customers.
It may be but there are over 30,000 people registered on this forum even plus there are more vBulletin owners than that.

[Rocky_BBQ]

How many of those 30,000 customers have contributed to the bug tracker process?

The active people of this forum seem to have the most impact on the development and helping the developers with these things.

[Mirical Bernd]

It is a shame though, to have to revert backwards when using the latest, Gold version. Seems like that is counter-productive to have to use parts of old releases to make the Gold release seem right. Shouldn't the latest release (the Gold), have the most popular features that the majority of the paying customers prefer?
it is always YOUR decision, if you use different graphics than the ones provided by Jelsoft. There are plenty of styles for free on vbulletintemplates.com - I myself have released one there. You can make your own. There is a Graphical Development Kit. Download it, change it to your needs. But please stop complaining about the new graphics.

BTW: On our production board we gave our users to revert back to the old graphics.

[acid2003]

Released the Graphic Developers Kit (GDK) for the new images into the members' area.
Can't find GDK in members area... :(

[Cary]

Can't find GDK in members area... :(
Take a look at http://www.vbulletin.com/members/membersupport.php

[Mirical Bernd]

The active people of this forum seem to have the most impact on the development and helping the developers with these things.
I don't see why only the ones who have contributed to the beta-process should decide over the design. Of course they helped on the process. But this isn't a reason why they should have more rights than the others.

[Rocky_BBQ]

We have the right as paying customers to express our opinions here on this forum regarding the new graphics. This thread is meant for things like that.

I myself have been very polite about my dislike of the new graphics. I am disappointed though at some of the members' rude methods of stating their opinions. I am not trying to hurt the vb devs feelings at all. I have noticed that several people have stated their opinion in a mean-spirited and rude way. I will never do this.

[Rocky_BBQ]

I don't see why only the ones who have contributed to the beta-process should decide over the design. Of course they helped on the process. But this isn't a reason why they should have more rights than the others.
Obviously, if the others have not spoken...then they probably do not care one way or the other. The people that do speak up care enough to do so. There are "Leaders" and there are "Followers". That is the way this world is. Someone has to speak up. :)

[Mirical Bernd]

@Rocky: Never said anything else.

[Rocky_BBQ]

@Rocky: Never said anything else.
Huh???

[Mirical Bernd]

Obviously, if the others have not spoken...then they probably do not care one way or the other. The people that do speak up care enough to do so. There are "Leaders" and there are "Followers". That is the way this world is. Someone has to speak up. :)
BUT: Where can I put the ones who don't care? To the ones who like the graphics or to the ones who don't like them? I would tend to the first, just because if they would not like them, they would complain - or not? So...

[Mirical Bernd]

Huh???
That was to your prior posting:

I myself have been very polite about my dislike of the new graphics.
I never said that you are not polite :)

[Rocky_BBQ]

They would most likely be happy either way.

[Thomas2485]

I don't see why only the ones who have contributed to the beta-process should decide over the design. Of course they helped on the process. But this isn't a reason why they should have more rights than the others.

That's not what he said though, Mr. Bernd. You said the number of people objecting to the graphics was small when compared to the total Vbulletin userbase. However, only the people who have actively contributed with feedback, while equal to the others, can be counted as people with an "opinion". Other people may have an opinion but don't post: it's this "team" of actively contributing members where you have to start counting opinions, not the userbase as a whole.

A poll is nice, but fairly useless: these are the final graphics. :) As I said though, I'm just going to design my own ones. :) For the rest, I love this release!

[Zlaxzzor]

I must agree with many of the guys here saying that the graphics is a dissapointment... Other than that, I think that it's great to finally have vb3.0 gold here and I must say that you've done a hell of a job... But I will not use the images... I just hope that Delhaze will update vbuttonpro for 3.0.

[Ed FvC]

I've been eagerly awaiting vB3 Gold to be released... I'll now be eagerly awaiting some new graphics packs from vbulletin-templates.com that don't suck. :o