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cstudio29
Sat 13th Mar '04, 10:03am
How do you get a message board hosted by here?

Steve Machol
Sat 13th Mar '04, 4:19pm
We do not provided hosting here.

Curtis H.
Sat 13th Mar '04, 5:06pm
You need to get an account with a hosting provider that allows you (most do) to host your VB forum. Ones I can recommend from personal experiences in no particular order are:

www.PowerSurge.net (http://www.powersurge.net/)
www.FutureQuest.net (http://www.futurequest.net/)
www.F5hosting.com (http://www.f5hosting.com/)
www.Rochen.com (http://www.rochen.com/)

qxh
Sat 13th Mar '04, 5:24pm
You must also, if you haven't already, purchace a vBulletin license.

http://www.vbulletin.com/order/

Lurk
Sun 14th Mar '04, 12:15am
Real Web Host allows you to pay monthly for a vBulletin licence. It is usefull especially if you can't pay for it all at once.

http://realwebhost.net

HiveHost
Sun 14th Mar '04, 11:40am
Real Web Host allows you to pay monthly for a vBulletin licence. It is usefull especially if you can't pay for it all at once.

http://realwebhost.net (http://realwebhost.net/)Doesn't leasing the vBulletin license go against the TOS and License agreement of vBulletin? And you'll probably end up paying the host more than you would have if you actually bought the license out right. It's probably an unsupport license as well :). Something just seems fishing about paying the host for the license....

GangstaTJ24
Sun 14th Mar '04, 2:51pm
I dont even see where you can lease vb at.I was going to allow my customers to do that but didn't know if vb allowed it.

poolking
Sun 14th Mar '04, 2:58pm
Doesn't leasing the vBulletin license go against the TOS and License agreement of vBulletin? And you'll probably end up paying the host more than you would have if you actually bought the license out right. It's probably an unsupport license as well :). Something just seems fishing about paying the host for the license....
Wrong,

You can purchase a leased licence for $85 that lasts for one year.

I think once the hosting company have bought the licence and use it on a valid website and only one copy of it on a website, then I don't think Jelsoft can complain.

As long as there is a seperate licence for each domain I don't see a problem how the hosting charges its customers for the use of the licence as long as the correct URL is entered into the members area for each licence the host owns.

HiveHost
Sun 14th Mar '04, 7:27pm
I think vBulletin has a stipulation though that you cannot buy their licenses in bulk and then lease them out on a monthly basis to customers unless you have their explicit consent to do this. I wouldn't want my board host by someone that was doing this against the will of the software maker.

poolking
Sun 14th Mar '04, 7:54pm
I think vBulletin has a stipulation though that you cannot buy their licenses in bulk and then lease them out on a monthly basis to customers unless you have their explicit consent to do this. I wouldn't want my board host by someone that was doing this against the will of the software maker. Just checked:


The Software is licensed only to you. You may not rent, lease, sublicence, sell, assign, pledge, transfer or otherwise dispose of the Software in any form, on a temporary or permanent basis, without the prior written consent of Jelsoft. And you indeed are correct.

So if this host hasn't had written consent from Jelsoft then indeed they are breaking the licence agreement and the licences could be revoked.

Back to the original poster who posted about Real Web Host, where on thier site does it mention being allowed to pay monthly for a vbulletin licence?

I see no reference to such deal.

Lurk
Sun 14th Mar '04, 11:48pm
Transfer Policy: Jelsoft may, in its discretion, allow you to transfer your license to another party, providing the license:
:- has not already been transferred in the previous 12 months; and
:- was purchased more than 3 months in the past.

HiveHost
Mon 15th Mar '04, 5:40pm
This still doesn't supercede the license agreement.....just allows you to transfer a license. If you are paying for the license on a monthly basis from a host then that's the same as leasing.

Lurk
Mon 15th Mar '04, 7:01pm
Yeah, i read the licence agreement...

Floris
Tue 16th Mar '04, 4:43pm
Real Web Host allows you to pay monthly for a vBulletin licence. It is usefull especially if you can't pay for it all at once.

http://realwebhost.net (http://realwebhost.net/)This is against the license agreement.


The Software is licensed only to you. You may not rent, lease, sublicence, sell, assign, pledge, transfer or otherwise dispose of the Software in any form, on a temporary or permanent basis, without the prior written consent of Jelsoft.

express
Tue 16th Mar '04, 5:04pm
Hello guys just to give our point of view and facts to this. We set this up with the customer without talking with Vbulletin first. This we should have done no question about it. We have read the agreement and we understand it. If we had requested permission to do this first it would have been the thing to do. But we did not ,we live and learn and we must move on. In the past we would actually give the client the cash and they would purchase the license theirselves. Then we would charge a monthly bill to pay us back. We did this with clients that had been with us for over a year and clients that we knew very well.
In this case we did not do this, we have been in contact with vbulletin about this issue and we feel at this point the issue has been resolved between the parties based on email responses we received from them. That is between the two parties.
We have learned though as a company that we will need to get this request agreed to in the future with Vbulletin before doing this again.
We wish there was a different way to do this because alot of clients would love to have vbulletin but can not afford the one time payment upfront. A simple plan put in place by vbulletin for monthly pricing for some clients may help. This is up to vbulletin though not us or not anyone in this post.