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Kier
Wed 21st Jan '04, 12:59am
Discuss away! :)

If you are having a specific problem, please post in the appropriate forum rather than using this thread. If you believe that your problem is the result of a bug, please use the vBulletin 3 bug tracker (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?).

cscgal
Wed 21st Jan '04, 1:04am
Yay! I'm the first one to reply. This forum is still using RC2 ... is it available for download yet? *goes off to check*

mixylplik3
Wed 21st Jan '04, 1:04am
Sweet.

ManagerJosh
Wed 21st Jan '04, 1:04am
Nice Job Again Kier!! Are you expecting to release a RC4?

Hobbes
Wed 21st Jan '04, 1:07am
oh yes ;)! as in oh yes RC3 is out :D

cscgal
Wed 21st Jan '04, 1:07am
Nice Job Again Kier!! Are you expecting to release a RC4?
I thought new graphics were coming along with this update? ;) I think that the final comes after this RC if I'm not mistaken.

StevenTN
Wed 21st Jan '04, 1:12am
Yeah, what happened to the graphics (not that it matters to me since my forums have their own graphics).

Freddie Bingham
Wed 21st Jan '04, 1:14am
The graphics will be released with the gold version, just as we did with vB2.

HiDeo
Wed 21st Jan '04, 1:30am
NIce works Kier

jilly
Wed 21st Jan '04, 1:30am
(oh my, how I now wish I had commented my changes in the templates instead of changing on the fly) - there arent any specific details to revert my templates before I upload rc3 - do I need to revert all templates, or can I just upload?
what will happen to my templates? will my modifications be okay?
what about the styles? will the styles be left alone?

welo
Wed 21st Jan '04, 1:37am
Cheers for this, guys. I'm launching my new vB tomorrow (converted from IPB, and scheduled for about two months now). Was hoping I'd get RC3 before it happened.

Looks like not much sleep for me tonight :).

LLFan
Wed 21st Jan '04, 1:40am
As a new vB user forgive me if this is a foolish question...

Is it possible to simply release the ammended or changed files rather then uploading everything over again? I'm not so worried about now as this is expected with a pre-gold release but for the future. With hacking and tweaking is it possible to list changes made so they can be done manually rather then writing over files?

Mike =)

cyburbia
Wed 21st Jan '04, 1:45am
I appreciate that you can download without the included XML or graphics files. I'm still tweaking RC 2 (it wasn't very kind on my 2.3.* templates), and tweaking the language pack, so it's good to have a package where you don't have to pick and choose what to FTP into your forums directory with extreme caution.

It's up and running! (http://www.cyburbia.org/forums/)

Install went smoothly. Great job, guys!

Paul
Wed 21st Jan '04, 2:09am
http://www.vbulletin.com/members/ and http://www.vbulletin.com/members/ ...

paddysplace
Wed 21st Jan '04, 2:10am
i love you guys! lol! can't wait to test it out..


regards,
patrick

PS: faranth i beat you!

0ptima
Wed 21st Jan '04, 2:15am
Is gold next if there are no major bugs found?

himerus
Wed 21st Jan '04, 2:15am
Done. http://forums.myispfinder.org

Works like a charm... great job. :)

Vile
Wed 21st Jan '04, 2:16am
Great work vB Team:)

CJjack
Wed 21st Jan '04, 2:36am
NIce !!!!

a43079
Wed 21st Jan '04, 3:03am
very nice woohoooo!!

Thomas2485
Wed 21st Jan '04, 3:17am
Great job.

Slacker
Wed 21st Jan '04, 3:29am
Up and running. :D

chas_h
Wed 21st Jan '04, 3:50am
Very smooth upgrade from Rc-2 to Rc-3, thanks for that. Still looking forward to Gold and the final graphics :) If that future upgrade goes as smoothly as this one I'll be in heaven.

Chas.

Martz
Wed 21st Jan '04, 4:06am
I was forwarded an e-mail (from merk I think :eek:) about a cross scripting vunerability found on the 20th by Security focus:


- - -------------------------------------------------------

Software : vBulletin Bulletin Board
Vendor : Jelsoft Enterprises Limited / inGame GmbH
Vulnerability : Cross Site Scripting
Status : Author has been notified

- - ------------------------------------------------------
[..snip..]

- - - - Technical Details

Due to an improper quoted field in register.php it's possible
to inject malicious HTML code. With the use of Javascript code
an attack is then able to send sensitive informations (like
cookies) to a foreign server
[..snip..]

Does RC 3 address this bug? Or can we expect RC4 or a patch?

Ta.

Gozita
Wed 21st Jan '04, 4:09am
Hmmm. RC3 this should be good.

jluerken
Wed 21st Jan '04, 4:18am
Two questions:

1. When vb3 gold is out please do us users the favor and write a .txt file with changed files when releasing updates. This makes it easier to identify changes for hacks.

2. Can you tell me if you've changed tables from RC2 to RC3?
I am writing an import script for UBBT to vb3 and testing it on RC2 at the moment. If RC3 has table changes maybe things need to be rewritten again.

Kind regards
jluerken

superbest
Wed 21st Jan '04, 4:30am
Отлично! Приступаем тестировать.

Floris
Wed 21st Jan '04, 4:39am
Nice job dev team!

Thank you for the hard work again and thank you for releasing vb3 rc3 on my birthday!

Free cake for everybody!!

ManagerJosh
Wed 21st Jan '04, 5:44am
I was forwarded an e-mail (from merk I think :eek:) about a cross scripting vunerability found on the 20th by Security focus:

Does RC 3 address this bug? Or can we expect RC4 or a patch?

Ta.
http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/82/350386/2004-01-18/2004-01-24/2

- - - - Patch

The vendor released a patch for this vulnerability.

Rocol
Wed 21st Jan '04, 6:25am
Looks great .. well done to the vB Team :cool:

TheComputerGuy
Wed 21st Jan '04, 6:31am
Excellent job!

I like this alot!

Hopefully I can fix the small problem I had and be on my way!

carolinakid
Wed 21st Jan '04, 6:50am
IT would be nice to know what all files was changed so those of us with hacked boards could update witha prob.

HexOnxOnx
Wed 21st Jan '04, 6:58am
Nice job vB! I have this running on my rater site now! I love everybit of it!

DJ RRebel
Wed 21st Jan '04, 7:02am
(oh my, how I now wish I had commented my changes in the templates instead of changing on the fly) - there arent any specific details to revert my templates before I upload rc3 - do I need to revert all templates, or can I just upload?
what will happen to my templates? will my modifications be okay?
what about the styles? will the styles be left alone?To Jilly and others worried about templates ... what I did a while back unintentionally seems to help a great deal (or it may have been automatically done for me in one of the upgrades since I don't really remember any more !!! lol). At some point I made a 'child' style and use that as my default (only one I allow people to use actually). after some upgrades (like when I went from Beta #3 directly to RC #2), this 'child' template became totally unusable as some things didn't work (like posts and topic titles ... which are kinda important ... lol). But I did have the advantage of it not having been overwriten ... and having both availlable made things really easy to see where the changes were ... (ummm ... well it took a good 8 hours of tinkering ... lol) ... but I have a significant amount of 'tweeks' and subtle changes in my forums, so 8 hours could have been ALOT worse considering I don't really know anything about PHP or MySQL !!!

Anyhow ... if you were able to successfully impliment a change in your templates in the past ... then with having both new and old to reference, it shouldn't be too hard to change things again.

NOTE: I ALWAYS copy and paste all my modified templates in to good old trusty notepad or wordpad before doing an upgrade JUST IN CASE !!!



ALSO ... I know you guys really hate getting these questions ... so I'm not going to ask 'WHEN' the gold is expected to come out ... but would it be posible to give us a "Definately do not expect to see it before ______" date ??? :) ... For those of us who have been waiting well over a year and a half for a "stable" and "recommended" vB3, I've ginda gotten to the end of wanting to wait too much longer before implimenting the major tweeks and modifications I want to impliment. If it's definately not going to be for at least a month or more, then I'd like to know so that I'll just get started with all my long term plans now and not bother waiting. Cause you guys keep saying 'soon' ... but 'soon' is an extremly relative thing since I (and others) were told 'soon' back in the summer of 2002 !!! lol ... I'm not even complaining about the wait ... I think it was probably worth it ... I'm only comenting on posibly using clearer language than 'soon' ... lol ... as that word has kinda lost its meaning in the vB world !!! lol

Also ... a bit of a different question with posibly the same answer ... do you guys have a minimum amount of time (to make sure no new serious bugs develop) you want to wait between a final release candidate (whatever the number will end up being) and the release of the Gold version?

Anyhow ... definately big thanks for the recent progress ... again I want to stress I'm not complaining about the wait ... it's just more that I'm suggesting clearer language when expressing time frames ... because at this point I don't care if it's going to take 4 more months ... but I would like to know it could fall into that time frame (particualrly the minimum) ... and where I know giving the end date of a posible release date range is next to imposible ... it isn't all that hard to predict an absolute minimum, particularly if you guys have a minimum wait period already in mind between a (what proves to be a stable and final) release candidate and the 'gold' version.


Thanks again,
DJ RRebel :)
http://www.homeofmusic.com (http://www.homeofmusic.com/)

marocnl
Wed 21st Jan '04, 7:09am
I was forwarded an e-mail (from merk I think :eek:) about a cross scripting vunerability found on the 20th by Security focus:

Does RC 3 address this bug? Or can we expect RC4 or a patch?

Ta.
Did u submit this in the bugtracker?

good2laugh
Wed 21st Jan '04, 7:39am
The graphics will be released with the gold version, just as we did with vB2.
Any opportunity for a screen grab of the graphics. just wondering what kind of changes you are making and to what exactly.. stuff I have now is ok as far as I'm concerned but if for some reason I don't like the new ones (probably no danger of this, but just in case) I'd like to mess about and make my own, whilst waiting for Gold..

upgrade to VB3 RC3 smooth.
Thank you for your time.

Roody
Wed 21st Jan '04, 8:22am
Very smooth upgrade from Rc-2 to Rc-3, thanks for that. Still looking forward to Gold and the final graphics :) If that future upgrade goes as smoothly as this one I'll be in heaven.

Chas.
Agreed. I have been doing my upgrades on my test forums, but dealing with some anxiety issues when it comes to upgrading my actual forums. ;)

AlexanderT
Wed 21st Jan '04, 8:37am
Has there ever been something like "the most innovative program written in php"?

My vote would definitely go for vB3...

Well done!!!

Exero
Wed 21st Jan '04, 8:55am
www.exero.net/forum
upgraded and works like a charm :D

Techie
Wed 21st Jan '04, 8:56am
quick question. Will gamma templates work with RC 3 ? Or are the updated templates something I should not worry about?

Snowy
Wed 21st Jan '04, 8:56am
nice job guys, im gonna wait for the gold before upgrading, no serious security risks in RC2 so will same rehacking :)

Brahm
Wed 21st Jan '04, 9:46am
Yeah, I think I will wait for Gold myself unless there are significant changes from RC2. I love RC2!

You guys rock -- keep up the good work.

Fiji
Wed 21st Jan '04, 10:09am
Yeah, I think I will wait for Gold myself unless there are significant changes from RC2. I love RC2!

You guys rock -- keep up the good work.

sure it's great... thanks vb team...

Alien
Wed 21st Jan '04, 10:20am
I would like confirmation from a staff member that this has indeed been fixed in RC3 please?

-Jason


http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/82/350386/2004-01-18/2004-01-24/2

- - - - Patch

The vendor released a patch for this vulnerability.

Wayne Luke
Wed 21st Jan '04, 10:34am
After you upgrade, click the "Find Updated Templates" link and it will tell which templates were changed in the upgrade, whether you editted them and provide links to revert them if needed.

This is mentioned in the release announcement.

Praxin
Wed 21st Jan '04, 10:59am
I would like confirmation from a staff member that this has indeed been fixed in RC3 please?

-Jasonhttp://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90857&highlight=register.php

It was fixed in RC1 - I thinks that counts a confirmation ;)

jeepsforme
Wed 21st Jan '04, 11:06am
Darn, I wanted to be the first to download! ;)

marcjd
Wed 21st Jan '04, 11:16am
After you upgrade, click the "Find Updated Templates" link and it will tell which templates were changed in the upgrade, whether you editted them and provide links to revert them if needed.

This is mentioned in the release announcement.
That works for templates, but I think the concern of some are actual hacks they did to some of the .php files. If they knew which ones were changed then it could save them some time from rehacking and what not.

Wayne Luke
Wed 21st Jan '04, 11:25am
That works for templates, but I think the concern of some are actual hacks they did to some of the .php files. If they knew which ones were changed then it could save them some time from rehacking and what not.
We recommend upgrading all files. If you are concerned about hacking you need to invest in a file comparison tool such as Beyond Compare. Each PHP file is also stamped with a revision number in its footer. You can compare these with your current files to see if anything has changed since the last version.

conqsoft
Wed 21st Jan '04, 12:02pm
RC3 isn't in the list on the Profile settings here on vbulletin.com. ;)

Upgrade went smoothly for me. :D

Bro_Joey_Gowdy
Wed 21st Jan '04, 12:37pm
Great !! Just finished installing it. Thanks vB Team !!

eiko
Wed 21st Jan '04, 12:57pm
Upgraded to RC3 from RC2.

Found Template updates and like a moron, reverted them. I WANT the latest template changes. How can I get the new templates to install again?

Mike Sullivan
Wed 21st Jan '04, 1:01pm
I was forwarded an e-mail (from merk I think :eek:) about a cross scripting vunerability found on the 20th by Security focus:

Does RC 3 address this bug? Or can we expect RC4 or a patch?

Ta.
I was notified of this last night. "reg_site" doesn't even exist in register.php in any version as far as I can tell; based on the "inGame GmbH" part of the advisory, I figure this guy found this issue on one of their boards with a hack they implemented.

Jimmy Kane
Wed 21st Jan '04, 1:16pm
It could just be me, but my install script reads " vBulletin 3.0.0 Release Candidate 2 Installer" even thought it is RC3 :S

copyninja
Wed 21st Jan '04, 1:44pm
Great work vBTeam.. even though i think i will just wait for the final release of vb3 ;)

greenwood
Wed 21st Jan '04, 1:58pm
It could just be me, but my install script reads " vBulletin 3.0.0 Release Candidate 2 Installer" even thought it is RC3 :S

IIf it says RC2 what makes you think it's in fact RC3?

Maybe it really IS RC2?

Jimmy Kane
Wed 21st Jan '04, 2:00pm
Nay, it is RC3 as it says in the footer of my test board and the admin CP.

[FG]Omega
Wed 21st Jan '04, 2:30pm
Just great! Very easy update ^^

feldon23
Wed 21st Jan '04, 3:03pm
Upgraded to RC3 from RC2.

Found Template updates and like a moron, reverted them. I WANT the latest template changes. How can I get the new templates to install again?
You've completely erased your changes. Unless you have a backup, they're gone forever.


vB3 developers would make my day if a solution was found to compare the CURRENT default templates (vB3 RC3) with the previous version's default templates (vB3 RC2).

I have made massive changes to my templates and trying to compare vB3 RC3 default to my templates is a disaster. What makes sense is comparing vB3 RC2 default to vB3 RC3 default. Then I discover that most anchor tags have been changed from 'searchthread' to 'goto_searchthread', class='inlineimg' has been added in a few places, and so on.


Here is the current insane method I am using:

1. Upgrade my vB3RC2 to vB3RC3.
2. Make note of "Updated Templates".
3. Install a test vB3RC2 forum.
4. Copy the relevant default templates from RC2 into text files.
5. Copy the relevant default templates from RC3 into text files.
6. Run Beyond Compare on each to see what I have to change in MY templates to reflect the changes from RC2->RC3.
7. Delete the vB2RC2 test forum.


Some solutions:

1. When you upgrade from vB3 RC2 to vB3 RC3, the vB3 RC2 templates can be preserved and easily browseable until you delete them.

2. A tool that can be run BEFORE upgrading to vB3 RC3 which tells you which templates have been modified so you can take a snapshot of them FIRST.

3. Wait until that vB3 template editor gets released

4. Write my own program to parse vbulletin-style.xml for each version and spit out compare files.


#4 is starting to sound like a good idea. Hmm...

feldon23
Wed 21st Jan '04, 3:24pm
Actually just digging through my vB3 RC2 vbulletin-style.xml and pasting the contents of a template into a text file to use with Beyond Compare is not too shabby a solution.

wential
Wed 21st Jan '04, 3:29pm
Omega']Just great! Very easy update ^^
Ditto! Great work on RC3 Devs. Is there a change log between RC3 and RC2? I'd like to know all the details of the changes made.

kman2000
Wed 21st Jan '04, 3:35pm
Anyone know if it's possible to install the upgrade separately, then move my old tweaks, styles, etc. over and when that's done, migrate the users and posts? I can't do a full upgrade yet since I use vBPortal and it isn't ready yet for vB3 -- so I thought doing it this way would let me start getting ready for the the final conversion.

Thanks!

Fred
Wed 21st Jan '04, 3:41pm
Good job. I think I might try to upgrade today.

feldon23
Wed 21st Jan '04, 3:43pm
Anyone know if it's possible to install the upgrade separately, then move my old tweaks, styles, etc. over and when that's done, migrate the users and posts? I can't do a full upgrade yet since I use vBPortal and it isn't ready yet for vB3 -- so I thought doing it this way would let me start getting ready for the the final conversion.

Thanks!
Install a fresh vB3 and start working on it. Don't worry so much about the settings. Get the Styles and Templates the way you want them. Then export them to file(s).

Then when you're ready, upgrade your vB2 -> vB3 and import the styles you created.

I've been tinkering with my vB3 test forum for over a month. :eek:

97cobracpe
Wed 21st Jan '04, 4:21pm
Downloading now :).

Great job vb team!

Shadow Duelist
Wed 21st Jan '04, 4:26pm
Woa!!!!!!

qxh
Wed 21st Jan '04, 5:08pm
Upgraded without a problem. Great release! Well done guys.

welo
Wed 21st Jan '04, 5:23pm
(oh my, how I now wish I had commented my changes in the templates instead of changing on the fly) - there arent any specific details to revert my templates before I upload rc3 - do I need to revert all templates, or can I just upload?
what will happen to my templates? will my modifications be okay?
what about the styles? will the styles be left alone?
I'll tell you what: This might not help now, but I just uploaded an RC2 xml style template to RC3 and it works perfectly. Just to be safe though, before wiping everything I simply saved the source of the styles page for my template so I could rebuild it by hand if I needed to. Glad to see it wasn't necessary. :)

Yves
Wed 21st Jan '04, 6:46pm
vBulletin 3 is simply awesome
Keep up this great work !!!! :cool:

sabret00the
Wed 21st Jan '04, 10:08pm
what about the shell script i heard about, that not being released before gold?

jonik
Wed 21st Jan '04, 10:11pm
Where can I find the CHANGES that were implemented, not the bug fixes?

wential
Wed 21st Jan '04, 10:18pm
Where can I find the CHANGES that were implemented, not the bug fixes?
I wouldn't mind having a list of both.

Electronic Punk
Wed 21st Jan '04, 10:35pm
http://www.ntfs.org/forum/ updated without a hitch :)

rickyram56
Wed 21st Jan '04, 10:57pm
I updated and working great!

BigCheeze
Thu 22nd Jan '04, 2:15am
Going off for my first install of VB 3. Figure that you guys seem like your pretty close I might as well start getting ready. Looking forward to the new "toy".

eiko
Thu 22nd Jan '04, 2:23am
The transition can be a little tough, although mine was easier than expected (on a test site with back-up database). I'll wait for Gold before pulling the real switch.

But... vB3 is SOOOO much better than vB2, there is a learning curve, but it's worth it. Good luck.

allan grossman
Thu 22nd Jan '04, 10:25am
So far I've had a pretty good time with it. Right now my public board is a pretty well-hacked v2.3.0 installation and I'm instituting a "no hacks" policy with vB3 - if it alters files I don't want it. Template edits and added files will be just fine, thanks :)

I figure I'm about a week from upgrading the public board - what I've seen so far is pretty impressive.

trekwarfare
Thu 22nd Jan '04, 10:58am
upgrade from RC2 to RC3 went smoothly, only had 3 templates I actually had to update afterwards.

Great work guys!! :cool:

Shining Arcanine
Thu 22nd Jan '04, 11:51am
The upgrade was quick. It was as simple as: download RC3 files, copy them to my forums folder on my PC, close the forums, backup the DB, upload the files over the old versions, run the upgrade script, reopen the forums. No template changes needed to be made. :D

jonik
Thu 22nd Jan '04, 12:36pm
Where can I find the CHANGES that were implemented, not the bug fixes?
Anybody can help me out?

Praxin
Thu 22nd Jan '04, 12:45pm
There isn't a list of changes. Any changed templates can be found via AdminCP, and the use of a file comparing tool, such as BeyondCompare, can help you see if any files you have editted have changed.

Wayne Luke
Thu 22nd Jan '04, 1:05pm
Anybody can help me out?
This is a bug fix release. There are no new features over RC1. The changes would be listed in the Bug Tracker.

XYPHEN
Thu 22nd Jan '04, 1:36pm
I thought RC3 would have the graphics changed, isn't that what kier said?

conqsoft
Thu 22nd Jan '04, 1:38pm
I thought RC3 would have the graphics changed, isn't that what kier said?

No. Note until Gold.

XYPHEN
Thu 22nd Jan '04, 1:52pm
Alrighty, maybe gold will be released by next month or so hopefully :P

RandomLove
Thu 22nd Jan '04, 2:11pm
Kier,
Are you going to fix this http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=91602

Or is it final?

le`shaq
Thu 22nd Jan '04, 3:02pm
This is a bug fix release. There are no new features over RC1. The changes would be listed in the Bug Tracker.
but there are some new options and stuff? especially in the admin menu.:confused:

Shadow Duelist
Thu 22nd Jan '04, 4:45pm
but there are some new options and stuff? especially in the admin menu.:confused:
Did you not read or something?!

Ketro
Thu 22nd Jan '04, 4:49pm
Does vb3 automatically upgrade the unedited templates in your styles?

pablo
Thu 22nd Jan '04, 5:28pm
upgradeded , only one smal problem http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93079

le`shaq
Thu 22nd Jan '04, 5:32pm
Did you not read or something?!
don't reply senseless text. thanks. i asked why they did not mentioned the new admin features such as the reputation update script.

Steve Machol
Thu 22nd Jan '04, 5:36pm
Does vb3 automatically upgrade the unedited templates in your styles?
Yes, providing you uploaded the vbulltein-style.xml file prior to upgrading.

AlexanderT
Fri 23rd Jan '04, 4:09am
Steve, good idea about the upload. Why haven't I thought about this. So basically, before doing a upgrade, it is advisable to always import vbulltein-style.xml and overwrite the parent "vBulletin 3" style with it (given that my custom style is a child of "vBulletin 3")?

blockcipher
Fri 23rd Jan '04, 12:42pm
My upgrade went perfect. Thanks devs!

AZone
Fri 23rd Jan '04, 2:05pm
Although I was waiting for Final, I'm glad to see RC3... Thank you!

Zachery
Fri 23rd Jan '04, 2:13pm
nice work guys

Steve Machol
Fri 23rd Jan '04, 2:14pm
Steve, good idea about the upload. Why haven't I thought about this. So basically, before doing a upgrade, it is advisable to always import vbulltein-style.xml and overwrite the parent "vBulletin 3" style with it (given that my custom style is a child of "vBulletin 3")?
Yes, when you upgrade you are supposed to upload all the files (except the image files which you can ignore.)

alshehi
Fri 23rd Jan '04, 6:21pm
thanks

bart
Fri 23rd Jan '04, 7:21pm
I just did a test-upgrade from version 2.0.0. All went well until I had to log in to the admincp. I needed the fix_login.php-script (which I downloaded some months ago) and it still works, but it would be nice to have it in the release.

A fix_loginscript for visitors would also be much appreciated.

And I definitely hope there will be a vb2-importer with the Gold-release.

On the positive side: after this test-upgrade everything works! I can't believe my eyes, really. After upgrading to 2.3.4 it was a mess, but now it works and it looks good straight from the upgrade.

What can I say. I'm impressed.

Rici
Fri 23rd Jan '04, 7:56pm
And I definitely hope there will be a vb2-impoter with the Gold-release. Indeed , same here !

Ryan Ashbrook
Fri 23rd Jan '04, 8:51pm
I just upgraded to RC3. And I must say, I think my forum has never looked better. :)

Nice job! :D

cyburbia
Sat 24th Jan '04, 1:33am
So far I've had a pretty good time with it. Right now my public board is a pretty well-hacked v2.3.0 installation and I'm instituting a "no hacks" policy with vB3 - if it alters files I don't want it. .
Really, I can't think of what hacks I would need. The boards do almost everything that I want them to.

[FG]Omega
Sat 24th Jan '04, 12:55pm
Really, I can't think of what hacks I would need. The boards do almost everything that I want them to.
Yep, that's right. I love vb 3

UltraBrain
Sat 24th Jan '04, 1:03pm
Question,
How do i remove the welcome message frame on top of the forum. The one only guest see, with the text:

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/faq.php?) by clicking the link above. You may have to register (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/register.php?) before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Thanks.

Steve Machol
Sat 24th Jan '04, 1:06pm
This is not the thread to ask for help. Post a new thread in the vB3 How I forum.

To be able to post in the support forums you first need to be a licensed customer and register for Priority Forum Support. To do this, please go here:

http://www.vbulletin.com/members/forums.php

...and enter your email address (the one you used to register on the forums) in one of the boxes. You'll need to have your customer number and password to access that page.

If you still have problems after doing this, send an email to support@vbulletin.com. Please include your user name, then email address you registered with and your customer number so we can fix the problem.

UltraBrain
Sat 24th Jan '04, 2:21pm
Never mind, i found it allready :p

Steve Machol
Sat 24th Jan '04, 2:48pm
UltraBrain,

You need to do as I asked. Also please do not use large fonts in your posts.

David Copeland
Sat 24th Jan '04, 10:42pm
Cause you guys keep saying 'soon' ... but 'soon' is an extremly relative thing since I (and others) were told 'soon' back in the summer of 2002 !!! Me too. :(

This is horrible. A year and a half. If I'd been informed back then, I would have made drastic changes in our agendas.

David Copeland
Sat 24th Jan '04, 10:48pm
The transition can be a little tough, although mine was easier than expected (on a test site with back-up database). I'll wait for Gold before pulling the real switch.

But... vB3 is SOOOO much better than vB2, there is a learning curve, but it's worth it. Good luck.We are on Ver 2.2.6 (which remains stable).

Would I have to do anything out of the ordinary when upgrading to the new VB 3 Gold? Or should the transition go smooth?

(We have 140,000 posts and 20,000 members on our site)

Steve Machol
Sat 24th Jan '04, 10:55pm
There's some confusion as to whether or not you would need to upgrade to 2.3.4, then upgrade to vB3. At any rate, the safest option is to:

1. Back your database
2. Upgrade to 2.3.4
3. Run the database_conflicts'php script:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=73163
4. Upgrade to vB 3.0 Gold (when available)

You will need to rebuild your search index after upgrading. Also your vB2 style and templates will not work in vB3 but they will be avaialble for reference.

XYPHEN
Sun 25th Jan '04, 12:39am
Is there any news on the Gold Version?

Funkie
Sun 25th Jan '04, 8:12am
I get this error when trying to upgrade from rc2 to rc3

Funkie
Sun 25th Jan '04, 8:33am
no matter just my adminfunctions_profilefield.php had been changed works fine now I added the original

Ras Masta
Sun 25th Jan '04, 12:00pm
Me too. :(

This is horrible. A year and a half. If I'd been informed back then, I would have made drastic changes in our agendas.
Be patient. They are doing their best to make sure everything is safe for you to run on your server and not endanger anything you or your sites members have.

Also look at all the progress they have made so far.

Funkie
Sun 25th Jan '04, 5:31pm
did you know the subscription payment feature is now missing in rc3?

conqsoft
Sun 25th Jan '04, 5:34pm
did you know the subscription payment feature is now missing in rc3?

Works for me. Did you revert your templates?

Stryker
Sun 25th Jan '04, 6:23pm
I've just upgraded my forum and everything went very smoothly. I noticed that in this release I didn't have to edit my postbit and postbit_legacy templates to resize the reply_small.gif button. I've wondered for a long while why the size of this graphic had to be hard coded in these templates. A very minor irritation though I'm glad I no longer have to think about it. Well done vB team! :)

d3nnis
Sun 25th Jan '04, 9:29pm
I will stop at RC-2... not moving on to RC-3 anymore... a bit tired of reverting templates then editing them again :/ will wait patiently for vb 3 gold

ALF
Sun 25th Jan '04, 9:45pm
as always great job no prob

nsusa
Sun 25th Jan '04, 11:11pm
I just ran the upgrade from RC2 to RC3 and are very happy. Very smooth process - no issues at all. Great job, guys.

Christoph

sabret00the
Mon 26th Jan '04, 7:49am
There's some confusion as to whether or not you would need to upgrade to 2.3.4, then upgrade to vB3. At any rate, the safest option is to:

1. Back your database
2. Upgrade to 2.3.4
3. Run the database_conflicts'php script:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=73163
4. Upgrade to vB 3.0 Gold (when available)

You will need to rebuild your search index after upgrading. Also your vB2 style and templates will not work in vB3 but they will be avaialble for reference.i uploaded my test board straight from 2.2.9 > 3.0.0 gamma > rc1 and will do rc some time this week.

wdforums
Mon 26th Jan '04, 8:45am
I just upgraded from vb3.0 Beta 7 to vb3.0 RC 3 and now my Front Display is all screwed up.

I know the panel was just added so I need to change those colors (which I know where they are at), but why are my forums showing as a dark box....

For better explanation you can view it here:
http://www.search-this.com/forums/

If you need my Member ID, I can provide it upon asking.

Praxin
Mon 26th Jan '04, 11:37am
Have you reverted all the templates - the entire front end was changed.

cpradio
Mon 26th Jan '04, 12:06pm
BTW, using my other account as I asked to change my email address and have yet to receive a Verify Account email.


Why would I need to revert back to my old templates? I never modified my templates to output in a specific way.

It seems the RC 3 is not displaying the Forums for each Category. It shows the categories, but it not their sub-forums which I specified it to.

conqsoft
Mon 26th Jan '04, 12:07pm
Why would I need to revert back to my old templates? I never modified my templates to output in a specific way.

It seems the RC 3 is not displaying the Sub-Forums for each Category. It shows the categories, but it not their sub-forums which I specified it to.

It doesn't matter if you modified them or not. To get the latest versions of the templates, you always need to revert them when you upgrade.

boatdesign
Mon 26th Jan '04, 3:34pm
Here's a question - since vBulletin keeps track of which templates have been modified, why doesn't the upgrade script automatically upgrade any templates that have not been modified at all?

Wayne Luke
Mon 26th Jan '04, 3:43pm
Here's a question - since vBulletin keeps track of which templates have been modified, why doesn't the upgrade script automatically upgrade any templates that have not been modified at all?
It does.

You do not have to revert every template with every upgrade. There are templates which we recommend you revert on different upgrades. You can find these templates by clicking on the 'Find Updated Templates" tool in the admin control panel.

For upgrading through versions where a completely new style is introduced as is the case from vB3 Beta 7 to vB3 Gamma (or later), it is recommended to revert all templates in order to enable full functionality. You could go through each template individually and apply the new changes but it would take weeks if not months to accomplish when such wide scale changes are introduced.

chas_h
Mon 26th Jan '04, 8:56pm
It doesn't matter if you modified them or not. To get the latest versions of the templates, you always need to revert them when you upgrade.I think some of the confusion here is due to the choice of the word 'revert' to describe the action of updating your templates. It makes it sound as if you are changing things 'back' to the older version when indeed you are upgrading your templates to the newer version.
As I understand it, when you upgrade to a newer version the upgrade script updates all unedited templates and then you have the option of later 'reverting' (really upgrading) your changed templates, is this correct?
I simply made copies of the templates I needed to revert (for later reference) and then converted them. I can now go back and see where I hacked the old ones and apply those to the newer ones.

Chas.

MistyMeanor
Mon 26th Jan '04, 9:00pm
I am waiting patiently for the gold version of 3.0. I want our move to be final. I am on 2.2.9 right now. I also have a portal with paid advertising banners. So I cannot switch until there is also a portal for 3.0 too.

chas_h
Tue 27th Jan '04, 1:27am
I am waiting patiently for the gold version of 3.0. I want our move to be final. I am on 2.2.9 right now. I also have a portal with paid advertising banners. So I cannot switch until there is also a portal for 3.0 too.
There are already two excellent portal hacks for VB3 at the sister site to this one, Vbulletin.org . I'm using the one called Vbindex and the install is very easy and automated. You can check them both out here;
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=82

I'm in the process of building a new forum, so I don't mind starting with a 'release candidate' instead of the Gold version. VB3 is so much better than VB2 that I don't want to start my learning curve with the older product.

Chas.

codemonkey
Tue 27th Jan '04, 7:39am
Im sad, because there is no update package which includes only the upgraded files ...

XYPHEN
Tue 27th Jan '04, 9:20am
I will stop at RC-2... not moving on to RC-3 anymore... a bit tired of reverting templates then editing them again :/ will wait patiently for vb 3 gold
I'm gonna do the same thing :)

Bro_Joey_Gowdy
Tue 27th Jan '04, 10:22am
vB RC3 has been released for close to a week now -- wonder how many bugs they have corrected since it has been released ?

conqsoft
Tue 27th Jan '04, 10:23am
vB RC3 has been released for close to a week now -- wonder how many bugs they have corrected since it has been released ?

Keep your eye on the Bug Tracker to see the status of bugs.

Bro_Joey_Gowdy
Tue 27th Jan '04, 10:39am
Thanks I had forgotten about that
:)

Ras Masta
Tue 27th Jan '04, 6:52pm
People need to stop finding bugs!

Floris
Tue 27th Jan '04, 6:55pm
People need to stop finding bugs!
Yes, please stop finding bugs, we want a unstable version to be released with many possible unforseen errors so we can use the free support we paid for!
I like running a site that feels like phpbb - and pay $160 for it :D

calvinnguyen
Tue 27th Jan '04, 8:48pm
How long it take that we will have a Gold version?

wential
Tue 27th Jan '04, 8:58pm
Yes, please stop finding bugs, we want a unstable version to be released with many possible unforseen errors so we can use the free support we paid for!
I like running a site that feels like phpbb - and pay $160 for it :D
Thanks Floris,
I haven't laughed that hard or so long in quite a while.

Ras Masta
Wed 28th Jan '04, 1:01am
Yes, please stop finding bugs, we want a unstable version to be released with many possible unforseen errors so we can use the free support we paid for!
I like running a site that feels like phpbb - and pay $160 for it :D
Exactly!!!

Just kidding anyways, I don't know how you guys find all these bugs. I just run the simple board and never get bothered by em.

Lady Ginasue
Wed 28th Jan '04, 5:40am
I'm running vB3RC3 right now on my site and I havn't seen a bug yet. Maybe I don't know what one looks like could be the reason. Everything is running very well so far.

I love the look and things that I can do with it.

When I upgraded to it and my member came in to the board once I put it back up so that they could see, the first thing that they told me was that they really liked it very much. They loved the navbar at the top.

I hope that the Gold verison is released soon and that all will be settled down so that I don't have to worry anymore about having to kept on upgrading.

For all you young people out there if this old lady can do it, so can you, and before you think that I'm kidding you, I'm in my late fifties.

Mainer82
Thu 29th Jan '04, 7:44am
Any news on RC4 or gold? The only bug I see that bothers me is the buddy list in Mozilla.... the dev's do not want to publish a helpful answer on how to fix it...

Floris
Thu 29th Jan '04, 7:46am
Hopefully we are spoiled with a Status Update again some time this or next week.

I vote for 'Gold' on Valentines Day :)

FASherman
Thu 29th Jan '04, 10:04am
Looks like a number of bugs were found and fixed. I would be pleasantly surprised if the next release is the gold release, but I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out to be RC4 either.

Floris
Thu 29th Jan '04, 10:07am
Introducing the new images into rc4 before going gold, together with what else is supposed to be included (manuals, german language pack, etc) would be nicer. Since it is a release candidate, and not yet 'gold'. (after all; lets test before its gold)

But that is just my point of view.
It is done, when done.

PsykoTaz
Thu 29th Jan '04, 11:26am
Introducing the new images into rc4 before going gold, together with what else is supposed to be included (manuals, german language pack, etc) would be nicer. Since it is a release candidate, and not yet 'gold'. (after all; lets test before its gold)

But that is just my point of view.
It is done, when done.
I agree... final style should be tested before gold... but i'm sure it's already planed :p

Tungsten
Thu 29th Jan '04, 11:31am
I agree... final style should be tested before gold... but i'm sure it's already planed :p
As has been stated before, what you have seen since RC1 is the final style. The only thing we haven't seen yet are the graphics. The GIF and/or JPG files. Everything else is what you see right now.

Mainer82
Thu 29th Jan '04, 12:08pm
No need to test the final style when we have been since gamma..... And how can you test the new images...?

Grover
Thu 29th Jan '04, 12:19pm
As has been stated before, what you have seen since RC1 is the final style. The only thing we haven't seen yet are the graphics. The GIF and/or JPG files. Everything else is what you see right now.
My vote would be: bring more colour to the default style. (uhh... not specifically these ofcourse.... :p ). Now it looks tooo 'cold' IMHO. You've got white and blue. Yes, it does sound obvious... but some warm 'Orange' would be more than welcome. (yes... PHPBB.... WinXP etc.... the blue/orange -thing it is)

Roody
Thu 29th Jan '04, 12:31pm
As has been stated before, what you have seen since RC1 is the final style. The only thing we haven't seen yet are the graphics. The GIF and/or JPG files. Everything else is what you see right now.
Agreed. There is really no reason to release another RC unless to many bugs are found. As far as I know graphics dont cause many bug issues.

Mainer82
Thu 29th Jan '04, 12:33pm
My vote would be: bring more colour to the default style. (uhh... not specifically these ofcourse.... :p ). Now it looks tooo 'cold' IMHO. You've got white and blue. Yes, it does sound obvious... but some warm 'Orange' would be more than welcome. (yes... PHPBB.... WinXP etc.... the blue/orange -thing it is) That's why you have your Style Manager. ;) :D

Ras Masta
Thu 29th Jan '04, 2:42pm
Hopefully we are spoiled with a Status Update again some time this or next week.

I vote for 'Gold' on Valentines Day :)
I'm hoping for one also!

Grover
Thu 29th Jan '04, 2:43pm
That's why you have your Style Manager. ;) :D
Ofcourse. ;)

jb605
Thu 29th Jan '04, 10:10pm
I just installed VBB 3 RC3 and set my default language to simplified chinese (charset=gb2312).

All seems going very well, but then we have problems with some posts. In some posts, some chinese characters becomes garbled. But not all characters, not all posts. Some posts are completely fine. For those not showing correctly, they shows up perfectly when going into editing mode.

I think I was told that this supports multibyes language perfectly. Can somebody shed some light?

Thanks.

jb605
Thu 29th Jan '04, 10:23pm
BTW, I just found out that this problem only happens on the third replies and later replies. No matter whether it includes original posts or not. This problem does not happen with the first of second posts of a thread.

Steve Machol
Fri 30th Jan '04, 12:13am
As per Kier's original post, this is not a troubleshooting thread. Please start a new thread in the appropriate forum to get help with any problems.

Dave-G
Fri 30th Jan '04, 6:39am
Since vb3 seems to be in production now longer than windows was (j/k) thought I'd ask a question please.

To what level of bug clearence are you looking at, by that I mean....

Will the Gold version not be release until "ALL" bugs have been found and fixed or do you have some type of cut-off date planned? Think this would be impossible so hope you do not mind the question.

Many Thanks
Dave

bob46802
Fri 30th Jan '04, 3:08pm
sorry, i put this in the wrong forum

my mistake

Steve Machol
Fri 30th Jan '04, 3:09pm
This is not a troubleshooting thread. Please start a new thread int he appropriate forum for any specific problems.

XYPHEN
Fri 30th Jan '04, 4:36pm
Is there any way we can see what files were changed from RC2 to RC3? and What templates.... -_-

Also any idea when RC4 or version after RC3 is coming out? I don't want to have to upgrade to RC3 and then RC4... and keep upgrading, I'm gonna wait for GOLD, and I can see it will take until summer time before that happens.

bob46802
Fri 30th Jan '04, 4:50pm
unless you have problems or glitches in your current board, then I would just leave it as is.
when gold comes out then it would be worth installing.

as far as what files are changed, i read in another post that they arent going to say, or its not really documented on what exact files were changed.

you car read what changes/enhancements were done.

they prolly dont know when rc4 is coming or if it will go gold next instead of rc4

it will depend upon what bugs are found and hor rc3 works for everyone
im experiencing a hickup on upgrading rc2 -> rc3. but that is highly likely that its my fault and not the upgrade software

Praxin
Fri 30th Jan '04, 8:48pm
Is there any way we can see what files were changed from RC2 to RC3? and What templates.... -_-

Also any idea when RC4 or version after RC3 is coming out? I don't want to have to upgrade to RC3 and then RC4... and keep upgrading, I'm gonna wait for GOLD, and I can see it will take until summer time before that happens.
You can check which templates were changed via Control Panel, and if my brain is functioning correctly at this late hour, the files have a revision number at the bottom of them



/*================================================= =====================*\
|| ################################################## ##################
|| # Downloaded: 12:39, Tue Jan 6th 2004
|| # CVS: $RCSfile: misc.php,v $ - $Revision: 1.121 $
|| ################################################## ##################
\*================================================ ======================*/

good2laugh
Sat 31st Jan '04, 7:59pm
so how many bugs are left
bored with waiting. It might help to get images

tpr
Sun 1st Feb '04, 2:53am
I am sorry for bugging you but is it possible (to any extent) to predict when the gold version will be coming out ? i need to mess around with the stlyes for my website and i just need to know if theres any reason why i should start working on the current stlye and not wait for the new one (aka are you expecting the final release to take more than, lets say a month, to come out)

again,
im guessing this is kinda annyoing for you but im just trying to save myself some unneccesry work

Tpr

Zachery
Sun 1st Feb '04, 2:55am
as far as we have been told there should be no major changes to the templates unless theres a bug with them for a browser. the images are about all thats left :)

tpr
Sun 1st Feb '04, 3:55am
i am aware of that, however my design will is based on the forum design (not going to recreate everything) and changing the forum design will effect my design as well.

ALF
Sun 1st Feb '04, 7:15am
I am getting this now


Is it a bug or something else

thanks

Fatal error: Possible integer overflow in memory allocation (-9 * 4 + 0) in /var/users/webadmin/www.*********.com/forum/includes/functions_bbcodeparse.php on line 473

here is line 473

$bbcode = preg_replace($whitespacefind, $whitespacereplace, $bbcode);

Zachery
Sun 1st Feb '04, 7:58am
i am aware of that, however my design will is based on the forum design (not going to recreate everything) and changing the forum design will effect my design as well.
Once you make the design for vB3 i dont think youll need to do all that much during upgrades, unless were talking about a major release like 3.1.x


I am getting this now


Is it a bug or something else

thanks

Fatal error: Possible integer overflow in memory allocation (-9 * 4 + 0) in /var/users/webadmin/www.*********.com/forum/includes/functions_bbcodeparse.php on line 473

here is line 473

$bbcode = preg_replace($whitespacefind, $whitespacereplace, $bbcode);


If your having a problem start a thread in the correct support forum please

Kwak
Sun 1st Feb '04, 3:12pm
I sure can't wait for Version 3 Gold!

good2laugh
Sun 1st Feb '04, 5:32pm
WHEN are we getting a progress report.

UltraBrain
Mon 2nd Feb '04, 6:51am
No, do NOT release yet :D

First i want to see a function that pics placed in a topic with the image tag are automaticly resized and made clickable so they dont screw up the layout.

A bit like they programmed it on this forum:
http://forum.fok.nl/showtopic.php/457305/2/25

See how huge pics are resized by the forum software and made clickable? Thats cool! :p

Zachery
Mon 2nd Feb '04, 7:01am
I dont think they are adding new features :) but you could use some JS to do that ;)

Driv3r
Mon 2nd Feb '04, 10:42am
Thanks for the hard work on this version Kier and team

Roody
Mon 2nd Feb '04, 12:20pm
Thanks for the hard work on this version Kier and team
Agreed. I am definitely anxious for Gold to come out. Here is for hoping it isn't too long. :)

Amiga
Tue 3rd Feb '04, 12:19pm
Yeah, fingers crossed eh?

But hey, im sure if it takes a while, its all with good reason :)

good2laugh
Tue 3rd Feb '04, 6:30pm
Just wanted to say thanks for the progress report. What is the likelyhood that the images will be released with RC4? - anyhow thanks - always helps those of us who are not too familiar with the bugtracker system to have an idea of what is happening.

Fiji
Tue 3rd Feb '04, 6:46pm
I think vB team should include new images along with RC4, who know if it's something wrong with those new images? Then there will be RC5?

Roody
Tue 3rd Feb '04, 7:31pm
I think vB team should include new images along with RC4, who know if it's something wrong with those new images? Then there will be RC5?
It would be nice to see these images a little before hand no doubt. If not no worries. :)

Omega Prime
Tue 3rd Feb '04, 10:39pm
Thanks for the RC3 release :) ! Can't wait til it goes gold (I've got patience, so no rushing, ok? ;) )

chas_h
Wed 4th Feb '04, 2:52am
I think vB team should include new images along with RC4, who know if it's something wrong with those new images? Then there will be RC5?
I would also love to see the new images in RC-4, but if I had to bet on whether they will be included I would say probably not. IMO, releasing the new images with the 'Gold' version will add to the fun and make that release seem more special, not just another bug fix. That's what I think the developers are thinking.
Can't wait to see it released in any case.

Chas.

VampireMan
Wed 4th Feb '04, 6:39pm
I gotta say i love vbulletin 3. And to be honest i dont see the need for an rc 4. It's just another delay at this rate im going to have to renew before i can install vb3 Gold on my server and to be honest .. if it does come to the choice of renewing to install gold i probably will choose not to. I would rather keep what i have or move to a different system.

wential
Wed 4th Feb '04, 7:49pm
I gotta say i love vbulletin 3. And to be honest i dont see the need for an rc 4. It's just another delay at this rate im going to have to renew before i can install vb3 Gold on my server and to be honest .. if it does come to the choice of renewing to install gold i probably will choose not to. I would rather keep what i have or move to a different system.
Seeing how we pay based on time, I understand the feelings you are having regarding this. If my year was up, I might do the same.

squall14716
Thu 5th Feb '04, 9:37am
I think vB team should include new images along with RC4, who know if it's something wrong with those new images? Then there will be RC5?
How can something be wrong with a bunch of images?

petertdavis
Thu 5th Feb '04, 9:49am
Seeing how we pay based on time, I understand the feelings you are having regarding this. If my year was up, I might do the same.
Heh, I've had two or three of my owned licenses expire waiting, and waiting, and waiting... for Gold. I'm in no hurry to renew them for fear they'll expire again while waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting.:rolleyes:

lusr
Thu 5th Feb '04, 11:19am
I bought my first vB license in the Fall of 2001 thinking vB3 was right around the corner, it wasn't, but I'm not going to complain about it because vB2 was/is great stuff.

Floris
Thu 5th Feb '04, 12:55pm
Heh, I've had two or three of my owned licenses expire waiting, and waiting, and waiting... for Gold. I'm in no hurry to renew them for fear they'll expire again while waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting.:rolleyes:
Nobody is forcing you to not wait and renew them.
Everybody has to wait and wait and wait, and renew when it expires.
Just how things are.

Typhlosion
Thu 5th Feb '04, 3:04pm
I'm running on a server with MySQL 3.23.56 (and PHP 4.3.0). Will the vB3 final still work, or would I have to wait for the admins to upgrade the MySQL version?

Steve Machol
Thu 5th Feb '04, 3:36pm
vB3 will run on MySQL 3.23.56 and PHP 4.3.0.

Mirical Bernd
Thu 5th Feb '04, 5:59pm
I gotta say i love vbulletin 3. And to be honest i dont see the need for an rc 4. It's just another delay at this rate im going to have to renew before i can install vb3 Gold on my server and to be honest .. if it does come to the choice of renewing to install gold i probably will choose not to. I would rather keep what i have or move to a different system.
I don't see your point. What about security updates? It always makes sense to renew, for just to be able to have the latest version installed, especially when there are security fixes.

IF my account would expire one day before Gold, I would renew without hesitation. If Jelsoft thinks that a RC 4 is necessary, they have their reasons, belive me. :rolleyes:

/me personally thinks, that you might be the first, complaining that your license expired just a day, before Jelsoft released a security fix... :D

le`shaq
Thu 5th Feb '04, 7:34pm
vB3 will run on MySQL 3.23.56 and PHP 4.3.0.
i don't know if this was asked before but will there be specific hardware specifications for the script? i used to have it on a celeron 1.7 with 256 mb of ram and the sql server had too much load. now it seems to work with a p4 1.7 and 512 mb of ram.

Wayne Luke
Thu 5th Feb '04, 7:52pm
i don't know if this was asked before but will there be specific hardware specifications for the script? i used to have it on a celeron 1.7 with 256 mb of ram and the sql server had too much load. now it seems to work with a p4 1.7 and 512 mb of ram.
You will have to meet the stacked minimum requirements of your server OS, webserver, MySQL and PHP before adding on vBulletin on top of that. 256 MB is probably well below this threshold. 512 MB will most likely be enough for a small board, though you will probably run into problems as you grow. MySQL is the memory hog in this case and it really likes 1-2 Gigabytes of RAM per processor.

Joe Gronlund
Thu 5th Feb '04, 8:41pm
Not really directly related to RC3, but congratulations on the excellent rating giving to vbulletin by Olate.com :)

Well deserved..

VampireMan
Thu 5th Feb '04, 8:51pm
/me personally thinks, that you might be the first, complaining that your license expired just a day, before Jelsoft released a security fix... :D
No the problem for me is i wont be able to afford to to pay the fee to get access again till much later in the year (october/november).
All my money goes to other places. And i dont want to run a forum full time that "might" have bugs. So i wont have any choice but to change to another forum base.

FASherman
Thu 5th Feb '04, 11:21pm
Not really directly related to RC3, but congratulations on the excellent rating giving to vbulletin by Olate.com :)

Well deserved..
Even more impressive is when I clicked the "Discuss this article" link at the bottom a few days ago, it when to a phpBB forum. Today, it took me to a VB forum instead! :D

Floris
Thu 5th Feb '04, 11:26pm
Even more impressive is when I clicked the "Discuss this article" link at the bottom a few days ago, it when to a phpBB forum. Today, it took me to a VB forum instead! :D
haha
Glad he got impressed by the review he wrote :)

Ras Masta
Fri 6th Feb '04, 1:44am
Yay it's Friday!! RC4 gets released today!

Zeitgeist
Fri 6th Feb '04, 2:38am
Yay it's Friday!! RC4 gets released today!
And all known bugs are fixed at the moment :-)

murat2
Fri 6th Feb '04, 3:12am
Yep it's friday hope we can see new images with RC4..

Mirical Bernd
Fri 6th Feb '04, 3:17am
i don't know if this was asked before but will there be specific hardware specifications for the script? i used to have it on a celeron 1.7 with 256 mb of ram and the sql server had too much load. now it seems to work with a p4 1.7 and 512 mb of ram.
We are running a rather large board on a double Pentium-board with 850 Hz each processor and 2 GB RAM. It runs ok, but we will be changing the hardware rather soon this year.


No the problem for me is i wont be able to afford to to pay the fee to get access again till much later in the year (october/november).
All my money goes to other places. And i dont want to run a forum full time that "might" have bugs. So i wont have any choice but to change to another forum base.
Consider running vB 2 until october / november.

And I have sworn to myself: I always have the 80 dollars ready to pay. It's not some hundred or thousand dollars. It's a rather small fee for such a great software.

I didn't make a joke, when saying: what about if your fee expired the day before a security-fix? If you have to run a board and you are really interested in vB, than you should have always had in your plans the 80 dollars ONCE a year. If your plans don't have this included, they might be planned bad. And for planning bad, you cannot blame Jelsoft.

BTW: I don't expect version Gold to be bugfree. Most likely there will be version 3.0.1, 3.0.2 and 3.0.3. Maybe this will even go on a while. If you have seen what happened on version 2, you know what I mean. And that should be always considered in your update-plans. So, if Jelsoft had published version Gold now, and had discovered other bugs, which made it important to publish 3.0.1 one day after it - and that would have been the day of expiration on your hand, what would you have done? Would you have used your gold-version 3.0.0 instead? If your answer is yes: Use RC 3. If no... Well I dunno.

Mirical Bernd
Fri 6th Feb '04, 3:19am
Yep it's friday hope we can see new images with RC4..
I would doubt that. I read here:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=597690&postcount=8

That they will be released with Gold ;) Freddie:


The graphics will be released with the gold version, just as we did with vB2.

murat2
Fri 6th Feb '04, 3:29am
I would doubt that. I read here:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showpost.php?p=597690&postcount=8

That they will be released with Gold ;) Freddie:
Thanks for info.:)
I'll wait for Vb3 gold if there are no new images with Rc4.

thanks again. time to go sleep.:D

corsacrazy
Fri 6th Feb '04, 11:27am
is it not friday today ? or are we just being teased or is my timezone making it too early 4 a release?

Ras Masta
Fri 6th Feb '04, 11:57am
I'm thinking it will be posted later in teh day.

RobFerrari
Fri 6th Feb '04, 12:41pm
Does anyone see any problems with me going from vB3b7 to vB3rc4?

From b3 to b7 went flawless, I didn't even loose any of my customizations. What I can I expect on this upgrade?

Save all my customizations to be safe I know.

My only question is after the upgrade will my style automatically change to the updated look? I want to keep the original vB2 type style. How do I make sure that happens? My board is www.ferrarichat.com.

Thanks,
rob

le`shaq
Fri 6th Feb '04, 1:08pm
your upgrade will run flawless, too. but you will have to rebuild your style as it does not work any more with the new versions. the upgrade script will store a back up of your old style in you admin system so that you can easily edit a new one with the right colors and stuff.

Joe Gronlund
Fri 6th Feb '04, 1:50pm
Just dont hit the next button really fast like alot do. I find more people are so anxious to upgrade, they hit next so fast, it errors out due to double clicking or just from running the upgrade to fast.

ImportPassion.com
Fri 6th Feb '04, 2:32pm
friday! friday! friday! friday! friday! friday!

Electronic Punk
Fri 6th Feb '04, 3:30pm
Well they updated their copy already :P

Feran
Fri 6th Feb '04, 3:36pm
Yes. Updating the download, and then having to have a quick security fix afterwards can get annoying :p It has to be *somewhat* stable before they update and create the thread.

RobFerrari
Sat 7th Feb '04, 2:00pm
your upgrade will run flawless, too. but you will have to rebuild your style as it does not work any more with the new versions. the upgrade script will store a back up of your old style in you admin system so that you can easily edit a new one with the right colors and stuff.

What do you mean by an upgrade script. in my beta upgrades I had to upload all the new files manually to my directory and then run the script, is that what you mean? Or is there some automated script now where I don't have to download and upload all the files again.

Thanks.

Danny_dill
Sat 7th Feb '04, 2:02pm
Were can i download it form as i am thinkin of switching to vbulletin

squall14716
Sat 7th Feb '04, 2:04pm
http://www.vbulletin.com/order.php

Mirical Bernd
Sat 7th Feb '04, 4:50pm
What do you mean by an upgrade script. in my beta upgrades I had to upload all the new files manually to my directory and then run the script, is that what you mean? Or is there some automated script now where I don't have to download and upload all the files again.
There is no such script. You still have to upload everything to your webserver and then run the upgrade-skript.

wential
Sat 7th Feb '04, 5:02pm
Somebody trying to get VB without paying for it first maybe?

Floris
Sat 7th Feb '04, 9:29pm
Were can i download it form as i am thinkin of switching to vbulletin
You can't download a free version. Because there is none.

After purchase, you will receive download details.

carolem
Wed 18th Feb '04, 1:28am
That was enough drama for me!

Thanks,
smooth sailing!
Carolem