vBulletin 3.0.0 Gamma Released - Discuss

[Kier]

Discuss away! :)

If you are having a specific problem, please post in the appropriate forum rather than using this thread. If you believe that your problem is the result of a bug, please use the vBulletin 3 bug tracker (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?).

[f-a_org]

First or second or third to post :).

[Zolk]

Awesome! :)

[Freestyler]

Woohooooo!

Will be installing shortly :)

Thanks!

[Brandon]

Woo Hoo! I beat the rush...downloaded in 3 seconds... :D

[Zachery]

w00t :D go kier :D have a nice vactation

[TonyG]

Yay! :D

[Asterik]

8th post! :D Installing!!! YES FINALLY HAH! :D

[Elmer]

Thanks Kier now I may go to bed :)

[Gio Takahashi]

about time....though its too late for me to install WILL install tomorrow morning though! =D

[theXME]

Woohooooo!

Will be installing shortly :)

Thanks!
I too, but i haven't much time, because i have school (germany)..

[synicide]

Yay, I'll install it tomorrow. ;D Can't wait!!!

[WichitaRacing]

Hrm. Does the user info HAVE to be above the post content? I kinda like it beside - this makes the whole board narrow and tall... </compaining>

[Koutaru]

Kier, Devs, THANKS

... and... nice idea of releasing it 1 MINUTE BEFORE DEC 5TH IN THE MEMBERS AREA. Ha.Ha.

[Mike Sullivan]

Hrm. Does the user info HAVE to be above the post content? I kinda like it beside - this makes the whole board narrow and tall... </compaining>
From Kier's post:
The new horizontal-style postbit can be changed to use the old-style vertical postbit via a simple switch in the vBulletin Options admin control panel

[Weasel]

lol, nice touch kier. THANKS DEVS!

[daemon]

Nice work vB team... this is amazing.. I'm giddy :p

[sonic3d]

time to port over my styles. great job vB team.

l8er
sonic

[Mr. HillBilly]

Images in announcement post are being linked from dev.vbulletin.com

[white_2kgt]

So if I download the 'classic' template I will have the same view that was here yesterday? ie the userinfo will be on the left and the post on the right and not top/bottom?

--chad

n/m answered while I was typing...

[WichitaRacing]

From Kier's post:The new horizontal-style postbit can be changed to use the old-style vertical postbit via a simple switch in the vBulletin Options admin control panel

I wonder if we can get a screen shot of what it looks like w/ that option?

[Mike Sullivan]

I wonder if we can get a screen shot of what it looks like w/ that option?
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7729

[teksigns]

forgive me if im blind ......


what exactly do i have to do to upgrade from 3.0 beta 6 to the new gamma.


i dont see any readme or install instructions for doing this .


do i overwrite the existing files or what ?

[FlyBoy73]

Ahh.. It's going to be a white Christmas after all..

[summsel]

YEEEEHAW .

[Chaotic Reality]

how do i upgrade from 2.3.2? thanks. :)

J.

[mdx381]

Very nice, great job with the templates and style, guys.

[Chris Gwynne]

Good job... to all of the vB team. :)

[Chroder]

I love you vB <insert everything vB related here>

:D Backing up and installing :cool:

[ReveX]

Got it! Getting DB errors though :\

Database error in vBulletin 3.0.0 Beta 7:
Invalid SQL: ALTER TABLE template ADD UNIQUE title (title, styleid)
mysql error: Duplicate entry 'header-1' for key 2
mysql error number: 1062

[AZone]

That's fine, thank you. But I'm too tired to say more... Trying to open my eyes while Gamma is copying to the server... It's so slow... My chair is so soft... Sleep... Sleep... Zzzzzz....

[WichitaRacing]

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7729
Slick. I'm guessing that it will be pretty easy to adjust the width of those columns even for us coding dummies?

[daFish]

What a nice surprise.
I just waked up and what do i see?
The gamma is out.
Thanks devs. It looks really great.

-Fish

[kyk0]

It looks great!

[monstergamer]

yes it is now out WOOOW
"installing"

[Ky Kiske]

This looks kinda ugly...

[Sal Collaziano]

I'll wait for the Rasberry Coke BBS to be up and running first. Yes, I'm a chicken...

[CeleronXT]

Hm, has anyone who downloaded it gone into the ACP yet? After entirely deleting and reuploading the whole contents of the zip file, stylesheets in the ACP just aren't loading, and nor are javascripts from the ACP, even though the board itself looks fine.

[Bad Bunny]

When I upgrade, I assume it will save my old styles for reference. Is this a correct assumption?

[Sal Collaziano]

I would definitely export your styles before upgrading.. And backup your forum files and database...

[Sal Collaziano]

Very nice vB, Celeron! Where's your 3.0.0 forum though?

[Bad Bunny]

But that isn't the question. ;) I know safety precautions. And I am not even upgrading right now. I just want to make sure about this.

[f-a_org]

The upgrade script imports ur style :D,
my board is back up / open.

[Sal Collaziano]

But that isn't the question. ;) I know safety precautions. And I am not even upgrading right now. I just want to make sure about this.
Sorry! :D

[Bad Bunny]

The upgrade script imports ur style :D,
my board is back up / open.
Yes. I see it used your colors. So that is nice. Gosh I want to try it out.

[Bad Bunny]

Sorry! :D
Hey, no need to be sorry. You were offering very helpful information. You can never be too careful. And good advice is good advice. I was just clarifying that it wasn't really what I wanted to find out.
Certainly no need to feel sorry for offering sound advice!

[Pirotess]

Looking good, heres to hoping development on companion programs to vbulletin crank up again. The Java menus are very spiffy as are the collapsable portions. that saves me a ton of hacks that I wont have to apply now. ;)

[Hobbes]

Hooooooooooorrrrrrrraaaaaaay

[Sal Collaziano]

I'm having the worst of luck.. Click on my Cadillac Forums link below. :(

[Sal Collaziano]

Thanks, Bad Bunny. :)

[WichitaRacing]

I'm having the worst of luck.. Click on my Cadillac Forums link below. :(
It crashed IE for me. :(

[Sal Collaziano]

Yeah, that's what it's doing.. I wonder why. Maybe something in my header.. I'm trying to figure it out now but I'm not much of a coder...

[Bad Bunny]

Yeah, that's what it's doing.. I wonder why. Maybe something in my header.. I'm trying to figure it out now but I'm not much of a coder... It displays ok in firebird.

[Chroder]

My style is all screwed up =/ The gradietns and stuff aren't showing up :'(

[Sal Collaziano]

Yeah, it's fine in Firebird.. Boy is this going to be fun... :(

[Eric Blair]

It crashed IE for me. :(
Wow, that's harsh! Crashed IE for me too. :confused:

[HenryG2]

My only problem with the style is the header. I like the drop down menu's, but it all reminds me of XMB. The tiny folder icons just don't seem to fit with the rest of the design, IMO.

[Zlaxzzor]

wow, this is great... I will download and install this and play around directly when I get home from school tomorrow... Great job Jelsoft!

[Sal Collaziano]

Heelp! :( heh! Uhhh.. What did I do?

[Sal Collaziano]

Okay, I removed the header and footer - and I'm okay now.. But.. Now all the posts are gone.. If I search for them, I find 'em.. But otherwise.. They're gone. Hmm?

[f-a_org]

Sal, did you backup your database ? (I didn't though need to right now) if so
then re-install B7 untill jelsoft helps you fix this.

[Daniel P]

Just woke up so I am installing it now :)
Great job all on the gamma and Kier on the style!

[Joe Gronlund]

AdminCP PHP memory NA, Also i can't upload styles, by default i had none and had to create one???

[Iceball]

I too, but i haven't much time, because i have school (germany)..
Too, but I'm ill :D When the Gamma is released on vBg.com, I will install it. Hope Scott comes in few time online and take it to the Members Area!

And @ Jelsoft, very good that release! Hits me out of socks :D :)

Now I'll wait that its into the german Members Area, have a nice day and see ya around!

Iceball

[gogga]

eh oh

weekend trashed :)

[Hobbes]

*head explodes*


NICELY DONE

[Brad.loo]

Thanks guys, seems to be some issues with the upgrade scripts right now so ill be waiting for it tomorrow. Good work :)

[tommyng]

This is damn coool :D

good job guys

[kerplunk]

This will take a while to get used to, but for the most part: rock on!

[daemon]

This is most excellent. My forum is now up-to-date :)

[kerplunk]

Yeah, I think vBulletin needs some more color and a few more images! :)

It feels as if everything is textual. ;)

[Sal Collaziano]

Sal, did you backup your database ? (I didn't though need to right now) if so
then re-install B7 untill jelsoft helps you fix this.
Thank you! But I got it together. I had to revert all my templates and make a few changes to my header and footer. Phew! That was scary! Thanks for the advice! :)

[PixelFX]

Clicks Install *twitches a bit*

;) good job guys, good xmas present :)

[KingsFan]

AdminCP PHP memory NA, Also i can't upload styles, by default i had none and had to create one???My Admin CP shows the same thing for PHP memory. Is this a problem? The upgrade went smoothly and everythin gseems to be working fine. DO I have a problem I don't know about?

[qxh]

Does anyone know when we can continue to upgrade? :( Or can we and Im missing something, lol.

[nemesis01]

I also just woke up and am upgrading, at least if it f***s up i'll be too tired to care.:P

[KingsFan]

Does anyone know when we can continue to upgrade? :( Or can we and Im missing something, lol.Well I already did so I'm hoping any fixes will be pointed out to us early adopters.:confused:

[boatdesign]

Very nice work on the new style :) :)

When I first visited I was stuck in a fixed width layout which I didn't like at all, but now it seems to have sprung back to a beautiful full-screen realative width and I'm liking the crisp new style a lot! Nice work!

[Eric Blair]

I downloaded gamma 2 minutes after it was released, backed up everything and installed.

Smooooooth as silk. Just awesome!

Thanks vBulletin Team! :D

[Mike Sullivan]

Does anyone know when we can continue to upgrade? :( Or can we and Im missing something, lol.
Should be able to now without any problems. Heard a report of the CP not having a style, but I haven't tracked that down yet (plus I don't think it effects anything other than looks).

[mtha]

:) It's so KEWL!

just dont fresh install, and testing upgrade without problems.

It's so smooth.

The only problem is that, it uses alot of memory :p

index.php
Memory Usage: 2,255KB, Executed 9 queries (1 queries for uncached templates)

showthread.php
Memory Usage: 3,257KB, Executed 10 queries (1 queries for uncached templates)

[infinite[tt]]

I'm not getting any of the white or grey styles, nor do I have the option of the liquid settings (to expand the board). Any ideas why?

[nemesis01]

Umm....how do you turn off attachments in this version?

[Ryan McBain]

Let the hacking begin :)

[Feran]

']I'm not getting any of the white or grey styles, nor do I have the option of the liquid settings (to expand the board). Any ideas why?
It comes with the grey style.

The others are available for download, if you looked at the main vB announcement thread.

[alkahf]

Discuss away! :)

If you are having a specific problem, please post in the appropriate forum rather than using this thread. If you believe that your problem is the result of a bug, please use the vBulletin 3 bug tracker (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?).
Hello
in vbulletin-style.xml: template name="aaa_FORUMDISPLAY_old"
<phrase>Counters</phrase>
I didn't find [Counters] in vbulletin-language.xml

Best regards

[the geek]

Well done guys. A superb layout that compliments that compliments the feature set in a pretty sa-weet way. :D

[Black Vivi]

will the banner be available in the gfx dev kit?

[Mark Hewitt]

The thread starters user name is under the thread title? urgh that's horrible :(

We use that space so moderators can put subtitles on threads. Looks like template modifications needed :(

[Thomas2485]

Call me a nitpicker, but in the Members Download area is says:



Download vBulletin 3.0.0 Gamma

You may download the latest beta release of vBulletin 3 here.
Please note that this is not the current stable release.



:)

[Chris M]

It wasn't with vB2, so I'm guessing no...

Haven't upgraded my site as I am closing the forums on it soon, so there would be no point - I will be installing Gamma in a few days after my site closes, just to play about for a bit...

Then I'm gonna use my licence for a new site, where I will fresh install either Gamma, RC1 or whatever other version is latest at the time...

After much browsing last night (when vB.com wasn't dying every other page :rolleyes: ), I have finally decided that I like the new Grey style, but the White one doesn't look right IMO...

There are a few things I don't like about it though:

User's names underneath thread titles in forumdisplay and underneath private messages in the Inbox - Could we have an option to, like before, display it in a column on forumdisplay / PM Inbox?
The Postbit buttons (homepage etc) - As NTLDR said to me last night, while we were waiting for teh Gamma to be released, there is no information or notification that we, as users, must click the "Online"/"Offline" image by the user's name to get the cool javascript box - Perhaps using a different button, or an alt which actually mentions "User Info Box" or something?
Browsing threads - No "New Thread" button? I miss this feature, and for lazy people like myself, who get weird ideas mid-reading another post, to go back to the forum to post a new thread is an extra unnecessary click :(
The UserCP - We can change the postbit to vaguely how it was - Shouldn't we be able to change the UserCP Navigation back to the way it was? :)
Finally - The contract/expand buttons - These could present a problem to users with custom styles, yet there is no option to turn them off - Surely we should be able to decide if we want them on or not? :)


Other than that, I like what you have done with the Calendar (at least it doesn't look so odd), and the Javascript boxes that appear are wicked :)

Overall, a good job done, but some improvements needed, some which others will agree with, some which I doubt many care about :p

Satan

[Floris]

Great job Kier + Dev team! :)

[weirdpixels]

thanks vb devs you have done a great job :)

[SourceFootball]

I upgraded today, very smooth and i like the new look and feel.

[[ITA]Assone]

gamma rox

[KarateKid[WBC]]

well done, devs! ;)

[spm]

I generally like the gamma, BUT ... :( I think the use of ActiveX to implement 'active table cells' for IE users is a great step backwards. I (and, I believe, many of our customers) have IE set to prompt re allowing ActiveX scripts to run. This makes using a VB board most inconvenient to use - prompts appeara for *every* page. I know it will scare some of users away ... for instance, how can we convince our users that there are no malicious ActiveX controls on threads that have been posted by other users?

Is there a way to turn off these ActiveX controld?

[Craigr]

Looks great.

Good work as usual.

Craig

[X-Sector]

Wow.. It looks awesome. Im gonna install it right now. w0000t :D

Great job vB teams ;)

[Sharg]

Great work.
I really appreciate the fact that the new version comes with the classical style. I plan to use classical style and hope it will be supported all the way.

Sharg

[Chaotic Reality]

Hi Like this, but how would I make that expand the entire screen, instead of just in the middle as is?

I normally have pages 100% so they fit the entire screen where do I change this if that is possible. thanks

Anyhow great, I like it very much.

Extra Styles

The 'vBulletin 3 Grey' and 'vBulletin Classic' styles available at vBulletin.com can be downloaded from here. (See the end of this post).

In order to make 'Liquid' (expanding width) versions of these styles, you will need to edit the Stylevars for each style and make the following changes:

Main Table Width: 100%
Form Width: auto
User Control Panel Form Width: auto


do it through admincp -> styles and templates -> style manager -> then in the pull down menu will be stylevars.

check out Kiers original thread in the annoucements for the links to the liquid styles. at the bottom of the board you can pull down and select the liquid styles, which are full screen. :)

J.

[dalecom]

lovely style, big thumbs up :)

[Mirical Bernd]

Does anyone know, when translations will appear? Is there any planning? We are running a german board ;) BTW: Great work with the new style, I like it very much :)

[Pascal_S]

When will the Download be available at the german vBulletin page ?

Thanks for answers

Pascal

[minx]

Fantastic...enjoy your vacation Kier...you deserve it! :)

-M

[MrNase]

Fantastic...enjoy your vacation Kier...you deserve it! :)

-M
yeah, that's true :)

[Martin CX]

Installed it without a hitch. And my extremely conservative users even like the new design! Very impressive.

[codemonkey]

The new style is great.
Its much better than the old one!

[Rocky_BBQ]

I was wondering why they don't have the default settings set so that the page fills completely without the large columns on each side? Why should everybody have to go change settings for this when it should be this way after installation? Does this only happen to people running high resolution? I am using 1024 x 768.

[sabret00the]

lol, 1024*768 isn't a high resolution anymore

anyway it's so that the style is 800*600 user friendly

[poolking]

Rocky is it such a hardship to change 3 things in the stylevars?

[sabret00the]

The thread starters user name is under the thread title? urgh that's horrible :(

We use that space so moderators can put subtitles on threads. Looks like template modifications needed :(ewww sub-titles :spew:

[Rocky_BBQ]

Rocky is it such a hardship to change 3 things in the stylevars?No Poolking, it isn't a hardship. But why isn't it set by default this way?
Usually software is developed to install the way people want it to look. You shouldn't have to go change the settings to get things to look the correct way.
Seems like those changes should have been implemented into the installation.

Seems that the minority group of 800 x 600 users should be the ones that have to go make these changes, not the majority of us who use higher resolution.

[Ogden2k]

I would like the thank the Dev team for adding the option to require the birthday! :D

[frederics]

The new style is more as fantastic, is it vervy great :D!

[Rocol]

looks excellent .. looking forward to getting installed .. top job done vB Team :cool:

[Shining Arcanine]

Woo Hoo! I beat the rush...downloaded in 3 seconds... :D
Great, the rush delayed my download. It took 4 seconds. :mad:

[Charlie Argueta]

I just enter... me and my University Proxy :rolleyes:

I feel the the postbit is very simple, but I like the new functions, so this will be a long night...

See Ya

[version2]

How does this new style hold up with older browsers?

[cirisme]

Now that I have had some sleep, I kinda like the gamma style. Good job :)

[Wayne Luke]

Hello
in vbulletin-style.xml: template name="aaa_FORUMDISPLAY_old"
<phrase>Counters</phrase>
I didn't find [Counters] in vbulletin-language.xml

Best regards
DO NOT EDIT THE XML FILES FOR EITHER THE STYLE OR LANGUAGE

If you edit the defaul XML file you will have to translate vBulletin with every release. The XML file is simply a way for us to transport the language settings to you easily. You need to make the translations within the Admin Control Panel in order for vBulletin to be capable of multiple languages and so that you do not have to translate it every time.

If you cannot find a phrase please create a bug report in the bug tracker. This is not a support thread.

[Semperfidelis]

Outstanding
All looking great so far

Top job by all the devs
:beer:

[MissNegativity]

Exciting announcement to wake up to. However the active x menus are kinda a dissapointment. Many people have that set to either prompt or deny. I don't really care much for this style, but the soft blues are real nice ^^ Looks a bit messy to me and alot of white space (I don't mean the sides) though this is all just personal opinion.

At any rate thanks for the new release ^^

[Rocky_BBQ]

Maybe they could implement an extra step in the installation/upgrade process that asks you what resolution you use. Then, the program could adjust itself accordingly during setup.

Or maybe that could be in user options. Each user could set the resolution they want to view the forum with.

[Wayne Luke]

There are instructions how to make the style Liquid in the Release Announcement as long as a ZIP package with the other two styles available here.

If you look at the bottom of every page, there is a style chooser where you can easily switch between fixed and liquid (which change to fit your resolution) styles.

[Meltingfire]

Is it just me or is there *ALOT* of bugs in the gamma?

The black line between posts disapear, postbits get completly black, texts get backgroundcolor, etc?

This happens to me and the other moderatorers that are testing the forum.

(I have rebuilt styles, and reverted all to the new ones)

[cka]

Very very slick.

[Wayne Luke]

How does this new style hold up with older browsers?
The new style is fully functional in older browsers like Netscape 4.X and IE 4.X. It also works in text based browsers such as Lynx. The style has been extensively tested in many browsers and on multiple platforms so that it takes advantage of features present in modern browsers and yet degrades peacefully when needed.

[Chris M]

Is it just me or is there *ALOT* of bugs in the gamma?

The black line between posts disapear, postbits get completly black, texts get backgroundcolor, etc?

This happens to me and the other moderatorers that are testing the forum.

(I have rebuilt styles, and reverted all to the new ones)
What browser are you using?:D

Satan

[LUKadsl]

Good job devs! :D

[Meltingfire]

What browser are you using?:D

Satan
WinXP / Win2k
with
IE 6.0

In Opera i get similar errors

[Wayne Luke]

WinXP / Win2k
with
IE 6.0

In Opera i get similar errors
Haven't seen anything like that personally. Do you have examples of this happening?

[Meltingfire]

On pageload
http://www.directconnect.se/bugs/bug.gif
After Scroll
http://www.directconnect.se/bugs/after_scroll.gif

(This is with original templates and styles)
(On the images i had changed the header, but it was the same before i did the change)

[Zachery]

umm, about the updated files according to the announcment, if we already installed do we just upload over?

[MindTrix]

I think the new release is a job well done :)
Will RC be much of an update?

[dutchbb]

Too mutch white space imo otherwise nice

[Mike Sullivan]

umm, about the updated files according to the announcment, if we already installed do we just upload over?
Yes, but if you already installed, you don't need the updated files -- there for upgrades only.

[Wayne Luke]

On pageload
http://www.directconnect.se/bugs/bug.gif
After Scroll
http://www.directconnect.se/bugs/after_scroll.gif

(This is with original templates and styles)
(On the images i had changed the header, but it was the same before i did the change)
It looks like you are missing some color assignments in the CSS. Have you made sure all your colors were set properly and added in colors for the new classes that were added?

If you need further help, you really should start a thread in troubleshooting. This isn't really a support thread and your problem will just be overwhelmed.

[Meltingfire]

I know this isnt the supportthread, but i couldnt get the bugtracker to load.

Im going to reset the css too and see if it gets fixed

[joshua21]

I was also wondering why they don't have the default settings set so that the page fills completely without the large columns on each side? Why should everybody have to go change settings for this when it should be this way after installation? Does this only happen to people running high resolution? I am using 1024 x 768.
I, too, am using 1024x768, and I like the fixed style better... IMO the messages are more readable when the line length is shorter. I tried using the liquid style and immediately switched back to the fixed style. Nice to give users the option to pick their preference. :cool:

[tgillespie]

Thanks goes out to vBulletin and its excellent team of developers, support, and others. You guys have created something truely amazing and I am proud to be a customer of such a great company.

Trent Gillespie

[Xelopheris]

Any way to make it user selectable between vertical and horizontal post-bits?

[Dje]

Any way to make it user selectable between vertical and horizontal post-bits?
my guess is this would be pretty easy to do... the only thing that changes is the template used for the postbit, where you can set it to use postbit_legacy instead of postbit... so you can simply create a new style, and simply have the content of postbit legacy copied into postbit, and allow users to select this style rather than the default style... I guess this would work correctly:cool:

[Rocky_BBQ]

I, too, am using 1024x768, and I like the fixed style better... IMO the messages are more readable when the line length is shorter. I tried using the liquid style and immediately switched back to the fixed style. Nice to give users the option to pick their preference. :cool:The problem I see with the fixed style, is when using long thread names you will end up having 2 or more lines instead of 1 nice line. Same with the forum descriptions. They can take more than one line even with liquid style, but you almost double the amount of lines with fixed. I just don't see the point of wasting that space with those wide columns on each side. :cool:

I don't mind the fixed style when actually in the forums and reading them. It is the main page that seems to be affected adversely in my opinion.

[Rocky_BBQ]

Why are all the smilies blue/white???

I think they look much better as their original yellow color. :confused:

[poolking]

Why are all the smilies blue/white???

I think they look much better as their original yellow color. :confused:
Because they fit into the colour scheme.

[Freddie Bingham]

Why are all the smilies blue/white???

I think they look much better as their original yellow color. :confused:
These are just temporary smilies, the final release will have all new smilies.

[Rocky_BBQ]

These are just temporary smilies, the final release will have all new smilies.
Thanks Freddie. :)

[lange]

Yeah, I think vBulletin needs some more color and a few more images! :)

It feels as if everything is textual. ;)I agree with you. Too textual. For the homepage, I would prefer a layout with modified buttons and the new layout of five temporary buttons. But the DHTLM is a choice.

[thuffner]

How do I remove the "powered by vBulletin" in the header? I can't find it in the gamma templates.... :(

[Matthew]

I quite like the new style. Think I might keep it. :)

[Chris M]

my guess is this would be pretty easy to do... the only thing that changes is the template used for the postbit, where you can set it to use postbit_legacy instead of postbit... so you can simply create a new style, and simply have the content of postbit legacy copied into postbit, and allow users to select this style rather than the default style... I guess this would work correctly:cool:
Yeh, or edit the code to make a user selectable option of which to use, and edit the function code which chooses which postbit to use ;)

Satan

[mrbiiggy]

I subscribed my user account to a subscription that gave moderator access... And it downgraded my account. Luckily it's just a test board, heh.

[Rocky_BBQ]

Why does the gamma release and beta 7 both have the same build #?

[poolking]

Why does the gamma release and beta 7 both have the same build #?
Are you really that bothered?

[Rocky_BBQ]

Are you really that bothered?
Poolking, if you don't have anything productive or helpful to say, just keep out of it. Nobody is asking for your smartass remarks.

Now I understand why so many people here regard you as a real pain in the ass.

[Mike Sullivan]

Why does the gamma release and beta 7 both have the same build #?
Neither have build numbers. That's your license number.

[Rocky_BBQ]

Neither have build numbers. That's your license number.
Thanks Mike, that's all I wanted to know. I appreciate your help.

[cka]

Speaking of license numbers, are the servers in the process of moving at the moment? I tried to grab Gamma on one of the licenses I have access to and nothing whatsoever is appearing for the site/license info/download links in the members area, yet my expired one shows up just fine...

Upon further inspection, it seems that there's a few broken links in the page itself as mousing over normal text highlights it and bolds it as if it were a link...

[Joe Gronlund]

How do I remove the "powered by vBulletin" in the header? I can't find it in the gamma templates.... :(
in the footer below

<!-- Do not remove this copyright notice -->


its not in the header..

[Joe Gronlund]

Speaking of license numbers, are the servers in the process of moving at the moment? I tried to grab Gamma on one of the licenses I have access to and nothing whatsoever is appearing for the site/license info/download links in the members area, yet my expired one shows up just fine...

Upon further inspection, it seems that there's a few broken links in the page itself as mousing over normal text highlights it and bolds it as if it were a link...
They start moving them exactly 5 hours from now, this IP block anyways..

[cka]

Yeah, I saw that in the calendar event. Kinda strange this licenses' members area screen, my personal one loads just fine but this one appears to be broken as none of the license info at all is appearing.

[Chris M]

in the footer below

<!-- Do not remove this copyright notice -->


its not in the header..
I think he was referring to the "Powered by vBulletin" in the title tag...

Satan

[Sephiroth189]

Yay! Finally! Great Job! *runs off to upgrade*

[Supa]

Hi, this most likely has already been covered, but I was unable to find it.

Is there a kit with the graphics files for VB3 like there was one for VB2? If so...link?

Thanks

[Gio Takahashi]

No there isn't because the graphic here is not final, I asked about it out of curious, it will be release with release candidate 1.

[Ryan Ashbrook]

Just installed on my board, it all works perfect!

Nice job vB. ;)

[Scott MacVicar]

Yeah, I saw that in the calendar event. Kinda strange this licenses' members area screen, my personal one loads just fine but this one appears to be broken as none of the license info at all is appearing.
Drop a quick email off to support@vbulletin.com and someone will look at it.

[GamerzWorld]

Just a question out of place, it is safe to remove Orphans Phrases?

vBulletin the best ever! :)

Eeek i hate new style. Im gonna have to change it abit >_< . Most peeps on my forum dont like either :/

[Ed FvC]

Holy ****. This is COOL!

[Elmer]

Just a question out of place, it is safe to remove Orphans Phrases?

vBulletin the best ever! :)

[Orfejs]

The design is great.
The posting Rules should be made more compact and the icons at forum view should be taken off, nobody really uses them and they eat a lot of place.

[poolking]

The design is great.
The posting Rules should be made more compact and the icons at forum view should be taken off, nobody really uses them and they eat a lot of place.Click the arrow button on the posting rules, it collapses them.

[good2laugh]

The design is great.
The posting Rules should be made more compact and the icons at forum view should be taken off, nobody really uses them and they eat a lot of place.
I was going to ask a question about that posting rules and whether we could have that little thing (that closes the section) set off as default, ie so they have to click on it to open it up - rather than click it to close that would hide all that white space to it's right - does that make sense? Not sure if that is possible - obviously if it is, it would make it more compact most of the time to most users.

I do like this new version - after replacing the VB logo with my own it was so easy to add a bit of code to get ride of the margin space - and as was said in an "alt" tag somewhere, saves novice users like myself ballsing up important code.

:)

[TonyG]

Eeek i hate new style. Im gonna have to change it abit >_< . Most peeps on my forum dont like either :/
I like it, but yeah, I've got many ideas on how to change it into a new style. That's the beauty of the new style. ;)

[PixelFX]

well in the spirit of learning this new system, I just gutted my site, wiped everything to do clean install. 2nd impression, pretty cool, I like how flexible the system is to make hacks and changes, lots to learn, but this is going to be fun hacking up :)

I reverted my admin sections and style to vb classic layouts :) the setting up liquid or other is a breeze, the install was smooth... I'm not sure how keen I am on the java menu's but there is always vbulletintemplates and vbulletin.org for tweaks and changes >;) still great job guys :) I look forward to RC1 :)

[ralgar]

hum, i really dont like the new design much :(
to bright for me

[Steve Machol]

hum, i really dont like the new design much :(
to bright for me
Try the Grey style.

[Brian Briscoe]

Yeah, I like the Grey Liquid... :)

[Matty Bwoy]

One thing I don't like is that in B7, underneath the post, above the Prev/Next thread links, there was a link to the forum. How would I go about getting that back.

[Duke of Lions]

I want to post a problem, why don't I have permissions?

this is the error I get:

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: fetch_online_status() in /home/&&&&/public_html/forum/index.php on line 280

[Steve Machol]

To be able to post in the support forums you first need to be a licensed customer and register for Priority Forum Support. To do this, please go here:

http://www.vbulletin.com/members/forums.php

...and enter your email address (the one you used to register on the forums) in one of the boxes. You'll need to have your customer number and password to access that page.

If you still have problems after doing this, send an email to support@vbulletin.com. Please include your user name, then email address you registered with and your customer number so we can fix the problem.

[Duke of Lions]

Ok steve, busy with it. But I registered it long ago....
I think you where the one altering my email.
Bit tired with this, I am on dailup

[Steve Machol]

We do not make changes to members accounts like that.

[Crucial_Lee]

I bet you get sick of repeating yourself steve. You told me the same thing (sorry)

Anyway, came home from school, saw gamma was out, i was amazed and installed it straight away. Good job Dev's. I know people will flame me for this but...is RC coming very very soon ? days...weeks?

[Mike Sony]

I must say that if I was ever in doubt to become a vB customer in the past, well... The doubt is gone with this Gamma release :)

This is the beginning of a new era in message boards evolution. The new style looks awesome and it´s also very functional and dynamic. I like it a lot. This WYSIWYG editor is also great. Man, I have no words to describe how excited I am with the whole thing! :p

I wanna congratulate the vB team for working so hard on this and also for making it easy to translate the interfaces to whatever language we may want. This is BIG, man! Thanks again ;)

[ABLady]

It's soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo nice.

WOW! :p

[Amiga]

Only problems i have, is it seems a little slow.. and i dont like the horizontal postbit, or when ur turn it vertical (and the font size for member names is huge!)

Other than that, it looks good.. And its all things i can change, so its all good.


Great release :) Thanks for working so hard.

[feldon23]

The design is great.
The posting Rules should be made more compact and the icons at forum view should be taken off, nobody really uses them and they eat a lot of place.

I posted a solution at http://www.vbulletin.nl/ under Template Modifications (must be registered and have 4 posts to download attachments).

[feldon23]

Any way to make it user selectable between vertical and horizontal post-bits?my guess is this would be pretty easy to do... the only thing that changes is the template used for the postbit, where you can set it to use postbit_legacy instead of postbit... so you can simply create a new style, and simply have the content of postbit legacy copied into postbit, and allow users to select this style rather than the default style... I guess this would work correctly:cool:
This is correct.

Copy postbit_legacy into postbit and Save and you get the old style.

[bspiller]

This new release looks great. I like how the forums look now. Also how the profile pictures and messanger icons are on top instead of left, makes the board look unique from others. :)

[greenchicken]

ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC!!!!!


I love it, my 700 users do as well


I knew there was a reason I stayed with VBULL

Thanks

Truckingboards

[MrNase]

thanks for the faq :)

[Scott MacVicar]

No problem.

I was getting tired repeating myself :)

[MrNase]

Ever thought about having a wiki like faq where all the people could add hints and tricks?

[AWS]

I'm getting a blank page when I try to read the FAQ. Get the FAQ page ok just can't get the specific FAQ page to load.

[Brandon]

I am having the same problem...it just loads a blank page :eek:

[BigJohnson]

It works for me in IE. Only certain pages i get white blank pages in the FAQS.

In General Board Issues i get blank pages after clicking the links

General Board Issues (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/faq.php?faq=gamma_general)

Copy to file system directory failed error upon upload (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/faq.php?faq=gamma_general#faq_gamma_attachments_fi les)
No Browse button appears when attempting to upload attachments (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/faq.php?faq=gamma_general#faq_gamma_attachments_bu tton)
When a guest visits index.php they are redirected to profile.php (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/faq.php?faq=gamma_general#faq_gamma_index_redirect )

[JAWilliams]

I just get database errors when loading the FAQ

[Mike Sullivan]

I'm getting a blank page when I try to read the FAQ. Get the FAQ page ok just can't get the specific FAQ page to load.
Still? Found a bug with a) Scott's FAQ entries; and b) the code. :p

[Steve_S]

The UI in Gamma is outstanding. Not only does it "look" clean and easy to understand, it also works great.

Congrats and best wishes to the entire vB Team!

What also impresses me very much, is your quest for quality and a rock solid code base. Rather than rushing the Gold out the door as a result of "pressure", you are taking a measured and mature approach to this new version.

Keep up the great work!

[Brandon]

Still? Found a bug with a) Scott's FAQ entries; and b) the code. :p
You fixed it mike! Thanks :D

[AWS]

Working now. Thanks for the fix.

[Isaacj]

Hello!, i only have one suggestion and one question:

If the forum have deactivated the "Paid Subscriptions" function, it would be a good idea, that this option dissapears from the user control panel.

Do you recommend to use the "Gamma" release in production enviroments??

Thanks and keep the good job.

--
Isaacj

P.d: Sorry for my english

[Ken Iovino]

wow, what a very nice change. Love it. Will prolly upgraded once the RC is out.

[Scott MacVicar]

I'd wait till the first RC for use in production environments.

It should be a polished product by that point with all bugs and language issues fixed.

[dsotmoon]

I'd wait till the first RC for use in production environments.


i'm sure that is the best way to go but i upgraded 1700 members and 130,000 posts to gamma today from 2.3.0, so far so good, the only major bug so far is not being able to delete pm's, other than that, no problems so far, i said it in another thread but i have to say it again, thanks for such a great product and all the work that has gone into it, bring on RC1 :thumbup

[0ptima]

There are instructions how to make the style Liquid in the Release Announcement as long as a ZIP package with the other two styles available here.

If you look at the bottom of every page, there is a style chooser where you can easily switch between fixed and liquid (which change to fit your resolution) styles.
Why was the default style set to a fixed width? I really do not see a point to that. If you run a high res, Im sure you dont run at full screen. Another thing, why cant the classic style have the have the liquid option without having to edit stuff?

[0ptima]

Will the classic style be available for the final release?

[Chris M]

Will the classic style be available for the final release?
I would guess that it wouldn't be, but I may be wrong - I don't think much will change template / style wise between now and RC1 ;)

Satan

[Scott MacVicar]

We still haven't decided which style should be the default style :)

The delete pm problem has been noted in the bug tracker.

[eytan]

two quick questions. i'm a ltitle stuck on the last two options in the config.php3 file;


// Prefix that your vBulletin tables have in the database.
// For example: $tableprefix = 'vb3_';
$tableprefix = '';

and


// Prefix that all vBulletin cookies will have
// For example
$cookieprefix = 'bb';

I don't really know... :( what's the standard, if i'm not changing anything etc.

And one more thing. When it says to delete all VB2 files. does this mean basically deleting my whole "forum" directory?

I'm upgrading from 2.3.3 btw.

thanks

eytan

[speedy131]

// For example: $tableprefix = 'vb3_';
$tableprefix = '';

it depends if you selected a tableprefix for your original install i think
I've just finished my upgrade to gamma (no big errors, woohoo :D)
and i first had vb3_ as table prefix, when i started the upgrade it said table vb3_sometablehere wasn't found, so i put it back to empty ('') and it worked fine.

i left the cookie prefix and everything seems to work ;)

[speedy131]

BTW, is it possible to download the all the buttons/images for the "classic" vb3 gamma style ?

the ones in the zip are kinda blue, would like to have all the purple ones like they are here on the "classic" style

[Scott MacVicar]

I'll see about getting the purple images zipped up for you and posted soon.

The cookieprefix detaults to bb if empty which was the standard in vB2. Its there as a fix for people who change there cookie path and users start having problems logging out as they dont have permission to change the cookie that was originally set.
So changing the cookieprefix will stop the broken cookies being used.

[DannyITR]

Can the width of the forum be chnaged? It's really bad having this narrow forum. Kinda makes me never want to come here because it's so annoying. Please tell me yes.

[Scott MacVicar]

At the bottom left select the style that you want but make sure it has Liquid on the end and it will by full width.

[Zachery]

scott if you leave the cookie prefix empy you get sanatize errors

[Scott MacVicar]

sanatize errors? where?

[Blue_Ice]

Okay I got a test forum setup and I'm half happy with the gamma release, there is a lot of space being wasted and where are all the postbit buttons like send PM to a user or searching for posts by this user, send email etc at the bottom of peoples posts, at least lets have the option of having them back in posts? I've tried to search for an answer on this but nothing conclusive either that i've just clearly missed it. I know there is a popup menu when you click on the on and off gif in the postbit info, I can see it exists on this forum but when I hover over someones on/off image on our test forum nothing happens, I've looked in the admin options, I cannot see anything regarding this.

What happened to prefix for closed threads? I noticed it didn't actually work in the beta 7 version, even though I filled in the values for that option.

Sorry if it seems im having a moan when the vB guys have been working flat out to get this version launched and that is certainly appreciated. :)

[Scott MacVicar]

Within the admin panel you can set it to use the traditional vB2 style postbit.

The prefix for closed threads was moved to the language system rather than the options.

[Zachery]

sanatize errors? where?
login.php during logout or login i belive

[Blue_Ice]

Within the admin panel you can set it to use the traditional vB2 style postbit.

Well I'm either going blind or its not there, sorry Scott I cannot see it unless your talking about the postbit_legacy in which it does not show the postbit buttons under everyones posts.

The prefix for closed threads was moved to the language system rather than the options.

When I search for prefix for closed threads in the language system, this is not there in the global area, prefix for sticky threads, polls and moved threads is there but not closed threads.

[catocom]

At the bottom left select the style that you want but make sure it has Liquid on the end and it will by full width.
I see the liquid style on the board here, but it isn't an option on the
board I upgraded.
Is there a place to d/l that style, or is it availible if doing a totally fresh
install instead of upgrading?

[Shocker]

This Gamma version is awesome, I gotta go download it!

[0ptima]

We still haven't decided which style should be the default style :)

The delete pm problem has been noted in the bug tracker.
I really hope that the "classic" style with the "liquid" option is included in the final product(I dont want to have to hack anything). My members will get a shock when I switch to VB3 and a "familiar" look will help ease the transition. Please take this into consideration.

[Steve Machol]

I see the liquid style on the board here, but it isn't an option on the
board I upgraded.
Is there a place to d/l that style, or is it availible if doing a totally fresh
install instead of upgrading?
The download for this is in the Gamma announcement thread.

[catocom]

The download for this is in the Gamma announcement thread.
I must still be missing something.:(
I found the "classic and grey.zip" but I don't see the liquid options there.

[Wayne Luke]

The liquid options are simply the same styles with the widths expanded to 100%. It mentions this in the Release Announcement.

[Mike Sullivan]

In order to make 'Liquid' (expanding width) versions of these styles, you will need to edit the Stylevars for each style and make the following changes:


Main Table Width: 100%
Form Width: auto
User Control Panel Form Width: auto

[catocom]

Geez, I see it now plain as day.:rolleyes:

Thanks.:cool:

[pulsorock]

It comes with the grey style.

The others are available for download, if you looked at the main vB announcement thread.
I downloaded the extra styles mentioned on the announcement thread. But I dont get the White Liquid or the Grey liquid on my board. Any idea where I can get it?

[poolking]

I downloaded the extra styles mentioned on the announcement thread. But I dont get the White Liquid or the Grey liquid on my board. Any idea where I can get it?
Read 2 posts up, Mike Sullivan quoting part of Kiers announcement.

[pulsorock]

Read 2 posts up, Mike Sullivan quoting part of Kiers announcement.
My bad... that happens when use the Quick Reply without reading the entire post. ;)

[Mike Warner]

Looking good. I like the blue - it is pretty much the exact colour of my existing vB2 forums! It is going to look like I couldn't bother changing the colours if I leave them that way. :eek:

I do like the changes - can't wait for the final release.

[Sacrifice]

Hey,

I was wondering if I could install it for like a day, to have the feel of it, then uninstall it the next day. I'd have it besides my other forums, but I'd just be messing with it, and I'd be the only member. You can check on the activity if you wish, it's sort of a "test" vbulletin.

Is it alright, or will I have to terminate?

Thanks.

[Steve Machol]

You are allowed to install a test forum for this purpose. Just place it in a directory named 'testvb' and make sure it's not publicly accessible.

[ajk57]

Hi Steve,

If I do this on my Forums, will it read the old database from 2.3.3?

I want my moderators to poke araound and check out the new control panel.


Thanks

[Steve Machol]

You will need to backup the db, then restore it as a new db. You can then upload the vB3 files and run upgrade.php.

[ajk57]

Thanks for the quick answer Steve.

Can I ask you a backup question here?

Or does it have to be in MySQL area?

thanks again.

[Steve Machol]

I don't understand the question. I suggest you start a new thread about this.

[ajk57]

I don't understand the question. I suggest you start a new thread about this.


OK, I'll put it in MySQL topic section then.

[XLord-GNO]

I haven't been following this thread, so sorry if the following message is out of place.

This is one awesome style :) Good job whoever designed it. Can't wait to see it with all the new buttons as well!

[CreedFeed]

How does this new style hold up with older browsers?
doesn't work too well in netscape 4.7

[ajk57]

Hi CreedFeed,

I used to get those complaints all the time.
InternetExplorer is more forgiving than Netscape.

I think it has something to do with the way Netscape handles nested tables.
I could be wrong.

This has always been one of my pet peeves with MS, Netscape and AOL.
There compatibilty sucks in plain English.

Maybe I'm off base here. But I think it's the way Netscape handles HTML.

[snyx]

Discuss away! :)

If you are having a specific problem, please post in the appropriate forum rather than using this thread. If you believe that your problem is the result of a bug, please use the vBulletin 3 bug tracker (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?). siick. :eek:

[Flack Jacket]

doesn't work too well in netscape 4.7netscrap is free just like IE....why are you still using an old version?

Updates to things are done for good reasons....problems are the main reason for product upgrades....netscape (the newest version) is pretty good with the tables even though it still isn't as forgiving as the FREE Internet Explorer

[CreedFeed]

I don't use Netscape at all for browsing the web. I have it installed as I use it to test web sites I design. You have to remember that not everyone out there is tech-savvy and they may still be using Netscape 4 or other older browser.

[Zachery]

if there honestly using NS 4 or IE 4 they shouldnt be online

[Feran]

if there honestly using NS 4 or IE 4 they shouldnt be online
Well.. I sincerely hated NS7. It was way too bloated and laggy -_- I never touched Netscape again after that :p

Anywho, since vB3 final is supposed to be released by X-mas, I wonder when the next release is coming out o.o