Worst BB ever

[Faceman]

I downloaded vbullentin from a friend who told me about it (He is a paying member might i add). I wanted to try out the BB and see what it was like. I feel vbulletin is a copy of Invision Power Board but you have to pay!
Questions:
1. Cost - Why do you have to pay? I can get a better BB from Invision for free!
2. The admin CP: I found the Admin CP hard to nav. And I could not find a link to it on the forums index!

I think i will stick with Invision Power Board, unless you give me some good reasons to by this BB.

[IDN]

Go ahead and stick with IPB, your choice, we are not forcing you to pay. I personally won't use anything else.

And i think your friend is 'pirating' and you don't seem like the kind of guy to take out the call home code, so i think your friends license might get revoked.


As for why do we pay?

1) We get priority support, even if it's 3:30AM
2) We get a solid product
3) We know it won't just disappear, like IPB can, and be stuck with no updates

[Zachery]

vBulletin is templates are way ezier to change, the sytle manager is wonderfull, in vb3 we have template conditionals which are awsome :) and vb2-3 will run IBP into the ground anyday :)

the ACP is way better than IPB IMO either vb2 or vb3

[Marco]

Well thanks for sharing that with us... just asking tho', how can vB be a copy of IPB when vB was around long before IPB was? *rolls eyes*

I personally have used both vB and IPB and like vBulletin much better - hence I am using it. That said, if you want to stick to IPB then by all means do so. Your choice. :)

[Tungsten]

Chronologically speaking, IBP came after vBulletin so it is absolutely idiotic to suggest that vB is a copy of IBP. :rolleyes:

If that weren't enough, in order to fully enjoy all of the perks of being a licensed IBP owner, you are required to pay a fee with their software as well. So IBP is not entirely "free" per se.

Finally, the arrogant tone of this thread makes me hope that you don't buy a copy of vB, Faceman. I'd hate to see a request for technical support composed by you if this one is any indication of how it might come off.

[boutwell]

Umm...maybe your friend should not be sharing commericial software ;)

[Zachery]

you get support from me at 3:30am too :D

[Chroder]

vB is way easier to skin, and I find the admin CP way better then IPB's. To me, vB is like a nice solid product while IPB is fisher-price.

And its great support, friendly mods (unlike some of the know-it-all mods over at IPB) and vB doesn't delete threads when they include a sentence about their competitors.

[Scott MacVicar]

you get more or less 24/7 support in the vB2 forums.

and in the vB3 its pretty decent.

[Martin]

will someone hold me while I cry?

~snif~

[Zachery]

as long as i can come back and hang out in hawaii with you

[Tungsten]

will someone hold me while I cry?

~snif~
It's going to be alright, man. You'll get through this. :D

[msimplay]

vB is way easier to skin, and I find the admin CP way better then IPB's. To me, vB is like a nice solid product while IPB is fisher-price.

And its great support, friendly mods (unlike some of the know-it-all mods over at IPB) and vB doesn't delete threads when they include a sentence about their competitors.
yeh i dont like that one bit
but i think its down to the fact that invision really isn't better then even
Vbulletin 2 as of yet

altho they have some features it has some features that i sorely miss in Vb
and their hacking support is a bit (N)

they release too many new releases too fast which makes web developers have to create skins all over again and
hack makers remake all of the hacks

for example Vb2 series has got the biggest hack archive available anywhere
for any bulletin board, and has better hacks aswell

sure they get the easy hacks like stats and things out
but what about something on par with Futereals arcade hack
Mysql 4 powered search hack ,( means that the search engine requires no index but searches out of the actual forum tables)
Vb Stats by Bane
Paypal intergration hack
Lesanes store hack
Multiple attachments
Signature image system

i mean they dont even have a standard way to add Bbcode via Admin cp
and on top as everyone says their skinning system is such a pain to use
if you are serious about site design then look into Vbulletin simple as

[Faruk]

you get more or less 24/7 support in the vB2 forums.

and in the vB3 its pretty decent.
Yup, but the vB3-support from our community members is less than the vB2-support for the simple reasons that vB3 is still in beta, and vB3-hacks are not yet allowed on vb.org.

I reckon that in 3 months from now, vB3-support on these forums by normal members (ie. not Staff / vB Team) will be just as active and helpful as vB2 support currently is. :)

[Apoco]

Man IPD is made for newbs. Obviously thats all you are capable of using :-p

[BenSjoberg]

My psychic powers are telling me this thread will be closed by tomorrow!

But seriously, I'm sick of people saying "Uh, VBulleting costs too much money. I'm gonna go search for a site 2 download it 4 free". Ok, maybe I exaggerated a bit too much, but for crying out loud! vBulletin is $160! It's worth every penny! Deal with it!!!

[DWZ]

1. Cost - Why do you have to pay? I can get a better BB from Invision for free!Your totally right - I mean, the Jelsoft staff must have some way worked out a way to read the minds of the Invision team, in the future using their vBPortal® (and they thought they had us fooled by saying it was a CMS, ha!) which allows them to open a portal into the future were they can use their mind reading software (also stolen from the year 2504) to work out what Invision was going to look like. We can not stand for this! Jelsoft must be taken down! Hurry before they open up vBPortal again and stop you from contacting the authorities!2. The admin CP: I found the Admin CP hard to nav. And I could not find a link to it on the forums index!On a more serious note, see that link, top right of every page that says "Go to your Forums Home Page" - I'm not sure how much more obvious they can get :rolleyes:

[bhd]

I downloaded vbullentin from a friend who told me about it (He is a paying member might i add). I wanted to try out the BB and see what it was like. I feel vbulletin is a copy of Invision Power Board but you have to pay!
Questions:
1. Cost - Why do you have to pay? I can get a better BB from Invision for free!
2. The admin CP: I found the Admin CP hard to nav. And I could not find a link to it on the forums index!

I think i will stick with Invision Power Board, unless you give me some good reasons to by this BB.
We tried a number of Boards before VB. All were OK and worked fine. (To be fair, we probably would not have used VB if someone had not donated his copy to us and it WAS a bit of a mission to get the ownership changed).

We've been using VB now for about a year and so far have no complaints. It does have some really powerful features not found on other boards and yes, it is a bit difficult to get used to in the beginning ... but it is a premium product IMO.

[BenSjoberg]

2. The admin CP: I found the Admin CP hard to nav. And I could not find a link to it on the forums index!

I think I just understood what you mean, if you mean that there's no link to the Admin CP on the forum, rather you have to type forums.whatever.com/admin, I actually agree with you. That was a really big turn-off for me after I bought vB. Fortunately I quickly found the hack on vB.org to rectify that. :) (BTW, this is a standard feature of vB3)

(edit: My 100th post!)

[Zachery]

that was addressed in version 3 and has been there since beta 3 ;) if not earlier :D

[Scott MacVicar]

its at the bottom of the new style along with a link to ModCP and Archive.

bhd, we go through alot of security checks when transferring license as experience indicates that many people will try to obtain someone else's license through various means such as doing a domain lookup and getting there personal details and pretending to be that person.

[Floris]

I downloaded vbullentin from a friend who told me about it (He is a paying member might i add). I wanted to try out the BB and see what it was like. I feel vbulletin is a copy of Invision Power Board but you have to pay!
Questions:
1. Cost - Why do you have to pay? I can get a better BB from Invision for free!
2. The admin CP: I found the Admin CP hard to nav. And I could not find a link to it on the forums index!

I think i will stick with Invision Power Board, unless you give me some good reasons to by this BB.
Hi there,

What is the URL to your vBulletin powered forum and your IPB Powered forum? I'd like to compare them, or at least give us the URL you have your web site on.

Sorry to hear you don't like vBulletin as much as we do - especially since the arguments are not really backing you.

I personally would stick with vBulletin.

[asedah]

I downloaded vbullentin from a friend who told me about it (He is a paying member might i add). I wanted to try out the BB and see what it was like. I feel vbulletin is a copy of Invision Power Board but you have to pay!
Questions:
1. Cost - Why do you have to pay? I can get a better BB from Invision for free!
2. The admin CP: I found the Admin CP hard to nav. And I could not find a link to it on the forums index!

I think i will stick with Invision Power Board, unless you give me some good reasons to by this BB.


WOW. I'm not even a vbulletin advocate and even I think it's better than Invision. I like the version 2 admin panal better but the vb3 one only takes getting used too.

I havent had to use support yet...everything is usually in the announcements forum before I get a chance to put in a ticket...even then, most things seem to be solved the same day. Even the "how do I's" get responded to quickly.

Also, vbulletin is not the only ones that you have to pay for. There are atleast two other forum scripts that charge a yearlt and a lifetime fee.

Certainly not for everyone and some of the more gung ho members here will die for it, but i'd take it any day over anything else that I have tried.

Lastly, I've seen hacks for the latest version of Invision that were in the default version of vbulletin 2.2.6, which was the version I purchased my liscense under.

[Zachery]

im not part of the team, and i take time out of my own day to help :D wherever i can, i dont know any free boards that have as many vb helpers here, and i ditto the features part

[bhd]

WOW. I'm not even a vbulletin advocate and even I think it's better than Invision. I like the version 2 admin panal better but the vb3 one only takes getting used too.

I havent had to use support yet...everything is usually in the announcements forum before I get a chance to put in a ticket...even then, most things seem to be solved the same day. Even the "how do I's" get responded to quickly.

Also, vbulletin is not the only ones that you have to pay for. There are atleast two other forum scripts that charge a yearlt and a lifetime fee.

Certainly not for everyone and some of the more gung ho members here will die for it, but i'd take it any day over anything else that I have tried.

Lastly, I've seen hacks for the latest version of Invision that were in the default version of vbulletin 2.2.6, which was the version I purchased my liscense under.Yeah, 3's Admin CP is way better! Finally took the plunge and downloaded and installed 3 yesterday. Everything went like a dream and worked first time!

Well done team! I thought 2 was cool but 3 is way better!

[cirisme]

I always get a chuckle out of the "vB cost too much money" argument. If you break it down, it only costs $13 a month for the owned liscense, and after a year that drops to $2.50 per month for downloads access... which you can wait a year and renew if you want. Most people will spend more money on hosting each month then vB :)

[Zachery]

actually my host is only 11.95 a month :D

[Andy Z]

actually my host is only 11.95 a month :D
Hence, the "most people" part.

[merk]

Hence, the "most people" part.
I spend US$140 per month :D

[Zachery]

dang >.>

[Gio Takahashi]

I remember starting off my boards with phpbb, I wanted to get Vbulletin, but it cost too much money. hell I couldn't even afford hosting, I was hosted by my friend's server, and the database was via my other friend's comp...then June, I got 200 dollars for my late birthday present and 300 dollars from work.

for some reason phpbb was too buggy for me >.>; and a lot of my members wanted to go to Vbulletin, and I thought why the hell not. I don't think I could be any happier with the decision I made. I've been impressed with every features vBulletin had to offer, and I found installing hacks MUCH easier to do than phpbb. (phpbb requires more file editting which was a huge pain.) I've tried my hand at Invision but I hated it. (yet another person I know asked me to help out with his phpbb forums, and decided to go to invision without saying anything)

The Admin CP I find MUCH easier to navigate, vB2 admin was powerful and just awesome. When I upgraded to vB3, heh my admins were in awe at what it could do. I am just glad I could go load separate section on vB3 admin options, its just huge x_X.

Now I try my best to help other's out with their hack and their problem with vB, some I am good at others I don't even have a clue at.I say its worth every cent I've spent on June 25th :P.

Thats my 2 Yens/