vBulletin 3.0.0 Beta 6 Released - Discuss

[Kier]

Discuss away! :)

If you are having a specific problem, please post in the appropriate forum rather than using this thread. If you believe that your problem is the result of a bug, please use the vBulletin 3 bug tracker (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?).

[SmEdD]

Weeee first to reply :)

And probley pretty close to first downlaod :)

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[Chen]

wee first to reply ;)
Technically, and the database will testify, I was first. ;)

[Breaker]

wow second (hopefully) nicely released guys

[SilverDennis]

Ohh yeah! 4th! :D

I'm going to download it right away!

Thnx ppz!

[M1th]

Thanks guys! nice job! :)

[qxh]

w00t w00t w00t

[dannyw]

well done guys .. congrats to all ... now where is that goddamn RC version ...

[mtha]

well done guys .. congrats to all ... now where is that goddamn RC version ...
:)) download the version, rename beta6 to RC, you then have one for yourself :))

Congrat!

[Sephiroth 9999]

Yay! :D Brilliant work to the Dev Team, *high five!* Anyway, hopefully this is the last Beta... right? :p

Anyway, great work, especially fixing over 100 bugs. I thought most of them would be gone in Beta 5. :)

[cirisme]

Can't wait :)

[Scott MacVicar]

well 100 bugs is not really accurate.

Since alot will be the adjustments we put in with beta 6 at the start and have been fixed before you got it.

[Marco]

Yay!

*Uploads*

[qxh]

well 100 bugs is not really accurate.

Since alot will be the adjustments we put in with beta 6 at the start and have been fixed before you got it.
bah, you and your accuracy. ;)

:p

[Zelda-King]

Went like a breeze. Thanks!

[Oddish]

Could anyone suggest a more reasonable way of upgrading from beta 5 without ending up with redundant files, other than looking for all the files listed by Kier and deleting them?

[Zachery]

delete all your files besides config.php and upload? :\

[SilverDennis]

Could anyone suggest a more reasonable way of upgrading from beta 5 without ending up with redundant files, other than looking for all the files listed by Kier and deleting them?
Why don't you just overwrite all files? I did it, and i don't have any problems. ...

I just told my cute ftp pro that it had to overwrite all files ....

[Oddish]

delete all your files besides config.php and upload? :\Thanks Faranth! I hope it doesn't mess things up. :)

SilverDennis, I want to avoid redundant files.

[Kier]

Deleting all files but config.php and uploading the fresh ones will work fine.

Just make sure you don't delete your avatars and attachments if you store them as files.

[Zachery]

no readme this time :P how sad

[Joshua Clinard]

Great work guys. Uploading files to my server in the background. Hopefully install goes well.

[Snowy]

well here goes :)


Thanks guys

[nemesis01]

meh, no upgrade instructions? Do I just upload everything and run upgrade.php?

I'm thick, can ya tell?:|

I'm currently running beta 5.

[Snowy]

Deleting all files but config.php and uploading the fresh ones will work fine.

Just make sure you don't delete your avatars and attachments if you store them as files.
will this not loose any of your forums structure? Perms you have set or anything like this ?

[jrotunda85]

Everything working fine here :).

[nemesis01]

Phew, done.:D

[Kier]

All of that information is stored in the database. You will not lose any data/permissions etc.

[Snowy]

Thanks Kier

Here goes :)

[paolorulez]

ip ip urra'

[Joshua Clinard]

Upgrade copied duplicates of all files on the server. Deleted everything and am an the process of re-uploding. Which upgrade script do I need to run?

[Steve Machol]

upgrade.php

[Faruk]

Why don't you just overwrite all files? I did it, and i don't have any problems. ...

I just told my cute ftp pro that it had to overwrite all files ....
Because only overwriting all files will not delete files that are no longer necessary, hence you end up with a bunch of files that are not used. He wants to prevent that. Hence, delete all and re-upload, with the note not to delete things like config.php (or you would have to re-adjust that) and any customavatars or attachments you've stored in the filesystem. :)

[Koutaru]

YAY :D .. but I'm still going to wait until RC or even final. :p but of course I'm going to download it anyway

[ESAD]

I deleted everything accept config.php and I get this?
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Your vBulletin version does not appear to match with the version for which this script was created (version 3.0.0 Beta 3).

Please ensure that you are attempting to run the correct script.

If you are sure this is the script you would like to run, click here.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Then I clicked HERE to go ahead with it, and get this error.
-------------------------------------------------
Database error in vBulletin 3.0.0 Beta 5:
Invalid SQL: ALTER TABLE calendarcustomfield
ADD description MEDIUMTEXT NOT NULL
mysql error: Duplicate column name 'description'
mysql error number: 1060
-----------------------------------------------------

[Kier]

Your vBulletin version does not appear to match with the version for which this script was created (version 3.0.0 Beta 3).

Please ensure that you are attempting to run the correct script.

If you are sure this is the script you would like to run, click here.

I deleted everything accept config.php and I get this?

Than I clicked HERE to go ahead with it, and get this error.
-------------------------------------------------
Database error in vBulletin 3.0.0 Beta 5:
Invalid SQL: ALTER TABLE calendarcustomfield
ADD description MEDIUMTEXT NOT NULL
mysql error: Duplicate column name 'description'
mysql error number: 1060
-----------------------------------------------------
Are you running upgrade.php? (You should not be directly running any of the upgradex.php files - just go to upgrade.php and it will work out the rest for you)

[ESAD]

Yes, I ran Upgrade php. Thank god when I just moved the beta5 files
back over it all still worked!

I will give it one more try. . .

Ok, I deleted everything accept

Custom Avatars
Attachments
Includes/config.php

Then I uploaded the Beta6 Files.
Opened upgrade.php

I still get the exact same error as I stated above.

FYI, my database account has all permissions accept "shut down" and "grant"


UPDATE
I have figured it out myself.
See the following thread!

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82077

[Fusion]

Great work, as always. vB3 is really shaping up! :)

[Asterik]

Just wonderin, i've heard rumors there won't be anymore template changes. But i've heard Kier talk that there most definately will in RC Releases. Whats the true story? :O

[SourceFootball]

It's brill apart from the javascript made by this new editor .....Example: http://www.findyourhost.co.uk/vbforum/showthread.php?t=220

[SourceFootball]

not to worry fixed it with a little template adjustment.

[Ordovicium]

I have problems with the quick reply. When I press on a posting for QR, it change to the normal reply.

[Ogden2k]

Awesome! Downloading now!

[cirisme]

I have problems with the quick reply. When I press on a posting for QR, it change to the normal reply.
You may want to post that in the bug tracker

[Snowy]

aaaarrrggg i lost my customer number, how can i get this info again sent to me ?

[Wolfe]

i have found a bug none of the WYSIWYG is working on my board :( on everything pms showthread new post new reply etc reported :( no one can now post :(

[tril0Byte]

same here, reset to standard controls in adminCP and all works, including QuickReply, but WYSIWYG is FUBAR. The text box will not accept text, or even a cursor.

[Wolfe]

d00d i found out you need to reset your headinclude template for it to work properly :D

[tril0Byte]

ahhh, must be because the java files got renamed.

Trying now.

[tril0Byte]

Bingo, thanks Wolfe. ;)

[Wolfe]

dont thank me thank Scott :D he the bug killer :D

[Faruk]

Snowy, it's what you use to login to the Member's Area on vb.com - if you can't login there, contact Jelsoft or check any (update) e-mails you've (probably) had from Jelsoft aobut vBulletin.

[Dark Shogun]

VERY well done. :)

Dark Shogun

[Snowy]

Snowy, it's what you use to login to the Member's Area on vb.com - if you can't login there, contact Jelsoft or check any (update) e-mails you've (probably) had from Jelsoft aobut vBulletin.
Yep found it mate cheers. I had a reinstall of my OS and backed things up, just forgot where i had put them :)

[Ogden2k]

Quick question... which upgrade file do I use again?

[Scott MacVicar]

just run upgrade.php it will pick the file.

You should NEVER run upgradeX.php directly.

[Ogden2k]

Cool, thanks!

[ESAD]

You should NEVER run upgradeX.php directly.What happens if you do? Meltdown? lol


I don't think so, that is how I finally got my forum to upgrade.
I ran upgrade4.php after constant errors trying to run upgrade.php.

[Scott MacVicar]

if you do you can get errors since when we change core tables such as phrase. We would add code that needs to be run before the upgrade starts there.

[Chroder]

Mabe I can ease some pain with saying, revert headinclude, and NOT phpinclude_start. Don't ask me how I mixed those up! lol

[Snowy]

all is fine, upgraded and working good :) TOP job dev team.

[Weasel]

Yay I've already submitted 2 fixed bugs http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

2 less bugs closer to RC...

[Neocorteqz]

Everthing works here.. Thanks. :)

Just a msall question, did you remove the option in the admin CP to disable page redirects?(the page that comes up between post)

[Weasel]

Everthing works here.. Thanks. images/smilies/smile.gif

Just a msall question, did you remove the option in the admin CP to disable page redirects?(the page that comes up between post)
I found it somewhere going through all the options. so it's still there

Edit: try under Cookies and HTTP Header Options

[AZone]

OK. I have downloaded and already upgraded it. Works fine...

Thank You!

[Neocorteqz]

I found it somewhere going through all the options. so it's still there

Edit: try under Cookies and HTTP Header Options
Thanks. it was there before, i guess i just missed it the two times I went through the options.

[Wolfe]

some one else please try adding a new phrase to any group let me know what happens i want to know if its a bug in vb and not on my end i get a huge error message

[Weasel]

some one else please try adding a new phrase to any group let me know what happens i want to know if its a bug in vb and not on my end i get a huge error message
Worked fine for me

[Halodj]

props to the vb team! :D

[Littlebit]

Upgrade went quick and easy for me too!http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/images/smilies/cool.gif

One thing,
what query do I need to run to get rid of 1 'not really there' Posts Awaiting Moderation showing in my admin?
I know I saw this somewhere else, but couldn;t find it when I ran a search. http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/images/smilies/redface.gif

[Russell]

Someone's gotta let me in on this "props" phenomena... I just don't get it.

[0ptima]

Someone's gotta let me in on this "props" phenomena... I just don't get it.
I believe the origin of "props" is from California. To "give props" to someone is to recognise their efforts, good work, etc. Please correct me if I am wrong.

[Erwin]

Time for an upgrade... :D

vB.org may be unveiled soon too... ;)

[Ian Gordon]

This is very excellent. Good work vBulletin Team. I love you all and your work.

[Wayne Luke]

I believe the origin of "props" is from California. To "give props" to someone is to recognise their efforts, good work, etc. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Having lived in California all my life, this saying has never been very popular here from my experience. Maybe people think it originated from California from watching to many television shows and movies..

Now if you said something like:
Right On!, Cool Beans!, Smashin!, Gnarly, Killer, or even simply Superb then it would be more in line with how people still express that sentiment here today.

[[ITA]Assone]

Sorry but to upgrade my vb 3 beta 5?

[mtha]

Time for an upgrade... :D
vB.org may be unveiled soon too... ;)
Great, I love it :)

[Snowy]

Time for an upgrade... :D

vB.org may be unveiled soon too... ;)


interesting :) tell us more :)

[TheEDIGuy]

Upgrade from beta4 to beta6 went flawlessly. Great job, guys! Downtime less than a half hour from start to finish, on my 650-meg database.

[Arkham]

I believe the origin of "props" is from California. To "give props" to someone is to recognise their efforts, good work, etc. Please correct me if I am wrong.
It's street slang for "proper respect". I'll bet fiddy bucks you could trace its origin to the concrete jungles of the American North East yo.

[ESAD]

It's street slang for "proper respect". I'll bet fiddy bucks you could trace its origin to the concrete jungles of the American North East yo.
Finally someone with a real handle on American slang!
Good job padna!

[Arkham]

Finally someone with a real handle on American slang!
Good job padna!
Yo, boo.

[sandrose]

Since I translated my board. Which template was modified since beta 5.?

[Zachery]

youd have to go thought alot of the templates and just update :\

[Stryker]

Yo, boo.
Oh good golly, I concur. What a spiffing dialect you chaps use. I must say, I like the cut of your jib. :D

vB 3.0 beta 6 upgrade? Oh yeah, that went without a hitch. :cool:

[Chris M]

Oh good golly, I concur. What a spiffing dialect you chaps use. I must say, I like the cut of your jib. :D

vB 3.0 beta 6 upgrade? Oh yeah, that went without a hitch. :cool:LMAO! You do nothing to prevent the typical stereotyping of an English male do you;)

Upgrade went without a hitch...

Satan

[Freddie Bingham]

Having lived in California all my life, this saying has never been very popular here from my experience. Maybe people think it originated from California from watching to many television shows and movies..

Now if you said something like:
Right On!, Cool Beans!, Smashin!, Gnarly, Killer, or even simply Superb then it would be more in line with how people still express that sentiment here today.
Hahaha Wayne must live in a different California than I do.

[Wayne Luke]

Not used in my region.... maybe it is a central California thing.

[freaky]

I think its from Riverside, CA :o
http://nissan4wheelers.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=227600023&f=3046056761&m=1906012114

[Littlebit]

Quote:Originally Posted by Arkham
It's street slang for "proper respect". I'll bet fiddy bucks you could trace its origin to the concrete jungles of the American North East yo.
from the hiphop scene...I agree with the dude from Canadahttp://www.vbulletin.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif

[Arkham]

I agree with the dude from Canadahttp://www.vbulletin.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif
Thanks, eh.

[DILLIGAF]

I know this question may have been answered countless times, but I wanted to get a feel of when the first office RC release will be? Also, now that 3.0 is at beta 6.. where from here? What is the final beta number vB plans to reach before a RC or final release status?

Again, if this question has already been asked, my apologies.
If it has been answered, if it is not too much trouble, please reply with a link.

[Meltingfire]

I know this question may have been answered countless times, but I wanted to get a feel of when the first office RC release will be? Also, now that 3.0 is at beta 6.. where from here? What is the final beta number vB plans to reach before a RC or final release status?

Again, if this question has already been asked, my apologies.
If it has been answered, if it is not too much trouble, please reply with a link.42!

[centris]

Upgrade from 2.3.2 went well, no issues so far - Nice job.

[Scott MacVicar]

42!
The meaning of life!

DILLIGAF: If you look at the current spacings between releases its 1 month rougly so thats a good start, though this one might take longer since Kier is designing a new style.

[Bad Bunny]

The meaning of life!

DILLIGAF: If you look at the current spacings between releases its 1 month rougly so thats a good start, though this one might take longer since Kier is designing a new style.
That's totally sweet!

[freaky]

Upgrade went smooth. :D

[DILLIGAF]

DILLIGAF: If you look at the current spacings between releases its 1 month rougly so thats a good start, though this one might take longer since Kier is designing a new style.
Scott, I would like to thank you for the quick reply, however I still feel at a loss for my question(s) are still open. Every month or so an update may take place, that is great! However, what number will be the final update number before the RC? Would it be Beta 10? 20? Is there a time frame that vB would like to have RC out for the public. I guess in short I’m looking for dates.

[Marco]

The plan is to release RC1 after Beta 6. :)

[Weasel]

The plan is to release RC1 after Beta 6. images/smilies/smile.gif
Kier has said there may or may not be a beta 7

[poolking]

Kier has said there may or may not be a beta 7
It has already been stated that this will be the last beta.

[Kier]

Beta 6 is planned to be the final beta, but depending on the changes made in the next few weeks, I may feel that it is necessary to release a further beta before we commit ourselves to a Release Candidate, and all that RC entails.

To explain; Release Candidate means "We don't think that there are any bugs in this release, and it may be ready for release as the Gold version". We put that version out to the customers who can download and test it, and if we are correct and there are no bugs, we rebadge the RC version as 3.0.0. (Final). However, if there are bugs found (nobody's perfect!) then we fix those bugs and put out RC2, which means "Okay, the previous version had bugs after all, but now we think we got them all". We put this out to the customers and if there are no bugs found (etc.)

[Rasbelin]

Great. :) Upgraded Beta 4 to Beta 6 and just setting up a clean Beta 6 based BBS for a new site.

[MrNase]

beta6 is out? greeeeeeeaaaaaaat! :)


but one lil thing, beta 6 and 2.3.2 is missing in the dropdown box when you edit your profile :)

[Kier]

beta6 is out? greeeeeeeaaaaaaat! :)


but one lil thing, beta 6 and 2.3.2 is missing in the dropdown box when you edit your profile :)
Fixed now :)

[Ordovicium]

Beta 6 is planned to be the final beta, but depending on the changes made in the next few weeks, I may feel that it is necessary to release a further beta before we commit ourselves to a Release Candidate, and all that RC entails.

To explain; Release Candidate means "We don't think that there are any bugs in this release, and it may be ready for release as the Gold version". We put that version out to the customers who can download and test it, and if we are correct and there are no bugs, we rebadge the RC version as 3.0.0. (Final). However, if there are bugs found (nobody's perfect!) then we fix those bugs and put out RC2, which means "Okay, the previous version had bugs after all, but now we think we got them all". We put this out to the customers and if there are no bugs found (etc.)
Come the RC with the new style or with the final version?

[jucs]

Went like a breeze. Thanks!
Anyone using this for their public forums? Just wondering at what point I can safely jump on board without screwing my users to the max?

[insanctus]

I been using it public since beta 3 and no troubles thus far.

Although I only have 290 members.

[Kier]

Come the RC with the new style or with the final version?
It is planned to release the majority of the new style with the Release Candidate.

[Snowy]

Thanks for the info :)

[MrNase]

Anyone using this for their public forums? Just wondering at what point I can safely jump on board without screwing my users to the max?

vbulletin.org is switching and they have a lot of members and they certainly won't change if it was riscy :)

[Me2Be]

Anyone using this for their public forums? Just wondering at what point I can safely jump on board without screwing my users to the max?
I'm using Beta 5 (haven't had a chance to upgrade to 6 yet) on two of my boards (over 1300 topics a day (something like 10,000+ posts a day) since the beta was first available, and things are running smoothly now. So I feel confident to recommend to others with very active boards to make the jump to the beta.

[Zelda-King]

Anyone using this for their public forums? Just wondering at what point I can safely jump on board without screwing my users to the max?I've been using it at my public forums since Beta 3. We've had to keep up to date with bug fixes every now and then but otherwise it's been quite adequate as betas go.

[Don McR]

It is planned to release the majority of the new style with the Release Candidate.One thing that has bothered me about the beta program to date is what little has been revealed about the style changes that are being held for the release candidate. I understand the approach that has been taken and the reasons given. However, I do not have a good comfort level on how this has been handled. While the details will have to wait for the release candidate, I am surprised that there has been no statement of the scope for the proposed style changes or a definition of the basic design parameters. This leaves me nervous for a number of reasons.

The current "working" style has significant deficiencies, most related to a much higher level of complexity. I think it is so complex that it will create real problems for a high percentage of my forum members, since many are computer novices. There has been no direction on how this issue will be dealt with beyond general assurances that it is a known problem.

The numerous "stickies" stating that the style issue is known and will be addressed at the end of the beta process has only served to cut off discussion. Surely the development team has scoped the issue by now, and at least, developed a set of objectives to be met by the style redesign. If so, this should be open to discussion. If not, my level of nervousness has just jumped.

Leaving style changes to the end could lead to one of two undesirable scenarios. First, the scope of changes could be very limited due to the constraints posed by the fixed code of the previous betas. This could mean that many of the complexity issues will not be practical to deal with. Alternatively, the style design could initiate a completely new beta phase, with no end in sight, if the previously fixed code is reopened.

I admit that I could be completely out to lunch on this, and in many ways, hope that I am. The development team could have a good handle on all of this and could surprise us with an elegant and efficient interface at the end of the day. The skill level displayed by functional improvements that are incorporated into the current beta gives cause for hope. I just wish they would let us in on what is being planned while there is still a limited opportunity to incorporate input from the members at large.




Regards
Don McRitchie
Lansing Heritage
http://www.audioheritage.org (http://www.audioheritage.org/)

[[ITA]Assone]

Now we want RC :D

[nferreri]

I'm upgrading from beta5.. and I've upgraded betas before with no problem but for some reason when I goto the upgrade.php and type in my customer # it doesn't take it!


Anyone know how to fix?

[nferreri]

nm... im a moron.. was putting in wrong #. :)

[G20 Sport 2002]

I have two questions and I am not sure if this is the place to post it. First I wanna know why some users have a little + by there name, and they are all in the same group. Also the 5 arrows at the top, will those be changed in the RC?

[Snowy]

I have two questions and I am not sure if this is the place to post it. First I wanna know why some users have a little + by there name, and they are all in the same group. Also the 5 arrows at the top, will those be changed in the RC?Well the + thing iv no idea what your on about, the arrows, well if you hover over them you will see it says Temporary Buttons. In other words ofcourse they will be changed when the new style for Vb is released in the RC version.

[mtha]

I have two questions and I am not sure if this is the place to post it. First I wanna know why some users have a little + by there name, and they are all in the same group. Also the 5 arrows at the top, will those be changed in the RC?
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

1: that + means that person is on your buddylist. Check your buddylist and see.
I think I read the explaination for this somewhere.

2. 5 arrows might be changed (as they called them "temporary buttons"), but I'm not sure :p. if you have better icons, just go ahead and use

[G20 Sport 2002]

Also where do I go to adjust the size of attachments, I seem to change the number but it still wont let me upload the file, and I have the perms set right.

[Wayne Luke]

The little plus is to signify your buddies...

The temporary buttons will be changed with the new style and that is set to correspond with the Release Candidate.

[centris]

Anyone tried switching on/off gzip compression? Mine was on prior to the upgrade from 2.3.2 to beta 6, after reading the note beside the option; I decided to switch it off. There was an immediate slow down of my forums, and I mean slow. As I had changed several options, thumbnails, quick reply etc. I changed things back one at a time to get my speed back. If any of you guys have it off, give it a try you may have a pleasant surprise. Mine is set at 1.

vb3 beta 6 is faster than vb2.3.2, all my mods have commented on the new forums.

[DarkReaper]

I'm haveing some trouble getting the quick reply to work with the WYSIWYG editor. It sorta works for IE, you can type text but it isn't on a white background.

For Mozilla, it doesn't work at all.

[DarkReaper]

Alright...I had to revert my quickreply template, and that fixed almost everything. However, when users have the full WYSIWYG interface enabled, the default color of text is black...this is a problem due to our site's dark background.

How do you change the default color of the text?

[Zachery]

check the style manager heters anoption there to control the settings

[vbulletininstan]

Congrats on the new RC.

[Lu Bu]

any idea when the first stable version will be available. after seeing what's new I definitely want to upgrade!

[aldamon]

Hmm, here's an odd one. I have htaccess set on my admin control panel directory. Whevever I try to ban a user from the control panel, it asks for the htaccess log in again and it won't take my user name and password. I can't get to the ban page.

[Snowy]

Congrats on the new RC.
This is still BETA, BETA 6. Lets hope the next release is RC :)

[Snowy]

any idea when the first stable version will be available. after seeing what's new I definitely want to upgrade!
Well seeing as though vbulletin.com and now vbulletin.org are now using it for live boards along with many other people i would have to say its pretty stable now, wouldnt you ? :)

[poolking]

Hmm, here's an odd one. I have htaccess set on my admin control panel directory. Whevever I try to ban a user from the control panel, it asks for the htaccess log in again and it won't take my user name and password. I can't get to the ban page.Have you tried posting this in the troubleshooting thread? As this thread is for discussing the Beta 6 release.

[aldamon]

Have you tried posting this in the troubleshooting thread? As this thread is for discussing the Beta 6 release.
I have Beta 6. I also started a troubleshooting thread, but I just figured out what was happening. For some reason, when you click on "Ban User" it takes you to a page in the modcp directory. I have the admincp and modcp directories httaccess protected individually. I don't recall this happening in the previous betas, but I don't remember testing it.

[Lu Bu]

Well seeing as though vbulletin.com and now vbulletin.org are now using it for live boards along with many other people i would have to say its pretty stable now, wouldnt you ? :)

Not quite,
I tried posting in the vbulletin.org forum on Lesane's thread for his store this morning and the reply box never loaded.

[the geek]

You guys think its stable enough to start looking at for outlining new projects with?

I need to spec out a new quote and wouldnt mind giving it a go if the only changes are going to be templates and minor bug fixes.

[Lu Bu]

You guys think its stable enough to start looking at for outlining new projects with?

I need to spec out a new quote and wouldnt mind giving it a go if the only changes are going to be templates and minor bug fixes.


As far as I can see, no, its not stable enough although I think it's going to be a GREAT upgrade.

[Snowy]

As far as I can see, no, its not stable enough although I think it's going to be a GREAT upgrade.
Ofcourse its stable enough

HERE
Members: 32,781, Threads: 78,046, Posts: 507,536

VB.org
Members: 41,055, Threads: 27,935, Posts: 261,673

How much more stable do you need ?

Also vb.org have lots of little hacks that they are having to port over which may be causing some of the probs for them, its nothing to do with the stability of vb3b6.

[Lu Bu]

Snowy,
have you upgraded/install vb3 yet?

Is everything working at least as good as vb2? Are you getting "Hey, xxxxx doesn't work anymore?"

I've never upgraded before so I wanted to only have to do that once. That's why I wanted to know when the first stabe version would be out. I've also seen some of the suggestions people have submitted and I was wondering if they plan to implement most of that before or after a stable version.

[Wayne Luke]

The featureset of vBulletin 3 is finalized. Any suggestions for new features that have not been implemented will be implemented in a new version not vBulletin 3.

[Snowy]

yes i am running vb3, i had some problems with beta 4 but nothing major. Beta 6 is very stable and i have had no problems with it, my only problems is my lack of knolledge about vb3 and where things have been placed in the cp but that all will come by playing around with it i guess. As for upgrading it looks like beta 6 will be the last beta by what the vb staff have said, well if no unforseen problems arise that is, so as for upgrading to the next version (RC) it will be just a matter of running an upgrade script, easy as pie :)

[the geek]

The featureset of vBulletin 3 is finalized. Any suggestions for new features that have not been implemented will be implemented in a new version not vBulletin 3.
Cool... I assume that means that the only changes should be:
Styling templates (i.e. presentation, not data)
bug fixes as and when they are discovered.

If this is the case, then barring any serious bug creeping up, the code base should stay fundamentally where its at.
(please correct if I am wrong... as this is the type of info I am after).

Thanks guys

[Lu Bu]

Wayne: Thanks for that reply, that helps me understand a little more about when patches/updates are available how much will the code change. If the featureset is done then I hope the code is pretty much finished.

Snowy: Thanks for sharing your experience. If it is just a matter of running a script then I am not worried about upgrading.

Nail Geek: I guess we were trying to find out the same info:

I have been installing some of the hacks and I know how things break when the code changes. The good thing is that most of the hacks I installed are already standard on vb3 (archive, quick reply, quick registration).

For you super hackers out there, I have this question: I installed the store which created more tables in my database. Will this present a problem with upgrading to vb3 b6?

[DarkReaper]

check the style manager heters anoption there to control the settings
There's no setting in there for the default text color. By default, the text is black. If you highlight it and change the font color to white with the font color button, it works fine, but how can I get it to start as white?

[the geek]

All right kiddies...

Just bought a license as well as a dedicated server on Rackspace...
I shall be uploading tonight... Wish me luck ;)

btw: Are there conversion tools for migrating from phpbb, etc... for vb3 yet or is it logical to assume that they are waiting for RC stage?
If there arent... would I be best installing 2.x... coverting... then upgrading to vb3?

Toodles

[pablo]

All right kiddies...

Just bought a license as well as a dedicated server on Rackspace...
I shall be uploading tonight... Wish me luck ;)

btw: Are there conversion tools for migrating from phpbb, etc... for vb3 yet or is it logical to assume that they are waiting for RC stage?
If there arent... would I be best installing 2.x... coverting... then upgrading to vb3?

Toodlesthere are only upgrade scripts for vb2.x and not vb3.beta's.

you would need to download vb2.3.2 and import and then upgrade as you stated.

[Joshua Clinard]

I ran upgrade4.php, and my database was hosed. I had to totally re-install from scratch. My board was brand new, and I hadn't opened to the public, so I didn't lose much.

I cannot conclude for certain that running upgrade4.php is what caused the database to fail.

[Wayne Luke]

To upgrade your board, upload all files from the 'upload' folder in the zip file with the exception of install/install.php, then point your browser at install/upgrade.php. You should be automatically redirected to the appropriate upgrade script, then you need simply to follow the on-screen instructions.

You are not supposed to run the upgradeXX.php files directly.

[f-a_org]

Im Really liking vB3b6, the upgrade is nice.

[Slacker]

w00t - I went ahead and dove in and upgraded my board to beta6 tonight. Everyone is stoked about the new features. Keep up the good work guys! :D

[marocnl]

One thing that has bothered me about the beta program to date is what little has been revealed about the style changes that are being held for the release candidate. I understand the approach that has been taken and the reasons given. However, I do not have a good comfort level on how this has been handled. While the details will have to wait for the release candidate, I am surprised that there has been no statement of the scope for the proposed style changes or a definition of the basic design parameters. This leaves me nervous for a number of reasons.

The current "working" style has significant deficiencies, most related to a much higher level of complexity. I think it is so complex that it will create real problems for a high percentage of my forum members, since many are computer novices. There has been no direction on how this issue will be dealt with beyond general assurances that it is a known problem.

The numerous "stickies" stating that the style issue is known and will be addressed at the end of the beta process has only served to cut off discussion. Surely the development team has scoped the issue by now, and at least, developed a set of objectives to be met by the style redesign. If so, this should be open to discussion. If not, my level of nervousness has just jumped.

Leaving style changes to the end could lead to one of two undesirable scenarios. First, the scope of changes could be very limited due to the constraints posed by the fixed code of the previous betas. This could mean that many of the complexity issues will not be practical to deal with. Alternatively, the style design could initiate a completely new beta phase, with no end in sight, if the previously fixed code is reopened.

I admit that I could be completely out to lunch on this, and in many ways, hope that I am. The development team could have a good handle on all of this and could surprise us with an elegant and efficient interface at the end of the day. The skill level displayed by functional improvements that are incorporated into the current beta gives cause for hope. I just wish they would let us in on what is being planned while there is still a limited opportunity to incorporate input from the members at large.




Regards
Don McRitchie
Lansing Heritage
<a href="http://www.audioheritage.org">http://www.audioheritage.org (http://www.audioheritage.org/)</a>

I totally agree with this. Can anybody from the dev-team comment on this?

Especially with the part that the vB-interface is waaay too complicated at the moment and why not get some input from us on this?

Greets

[schutt]

Ofcourse its stable enough

HERE
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VB.org
Members: 41,055, Threads: 27,935, Posts: 261,673

How much more stable do you need ?

Also vb.org have lots of little hacks that they are having to port over which may be causing some of the probs for them, its nothing to do with the stability of vb3b6.
This board also runds pretty smoth
http://forums.beyondunreal.com/
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[centris]

I run on a shared server (not that fast either at times) and I did install beta 3 when released. I had a few problems that forced me to go back to vb2. I installed beta 6 a few nights back and it is very stable, all the problems gone and the members like the new features.

My only advice to anyone upgrading is to revert every template and the replacements prior to running the upgrade script.

[Snowy]

I run on a shared server (not that fast either at times) and I did install beta 3 when released. I had a few problems that forced me to go back to vb2. I installed beta 6 a few nights back and it is very stable, all the problems gone and the members like the new features.

My only advice to anyone upgrading is to revert every template and the replacements prior to running the upgrade script.

Yes, its better to be safe than sorry i guess.

[erobs]

I have a custom skin for my VB 2.32. If I upgrade to VB3 beta 6 will it still be compatible at this point? I know there are skin/theme changes for RC.

Thanks for any info.

Rob

[Gary King]

Yep, the skin should be pretty compatible.

[LilPimpnRapper]

When Will the Beta Be through And Vbulletin 3.0 be out. Should I wait for that to come out. If i get Vb 2.3.2 can I update it to 3.0 when it comes out?

[DarkReaper]

There's no setting in there for the default text color. By default, the text is black. If you highlight it and change the font color to white with the font color button, it works fine, but how can I get it to start as white?
Hello? Dev team? I'd like an answer on this please.

[Steve Machol]

Hello? Dev team? I'd like an answer on this please.
As Kier stated in the original post, please post specific questions and problems in their own thread. They will get lost in this one.

[kerplunk]

This board also runds pretty smoth
http://forums.beyondunreal.com/
Members: 36,359, Threads: 98,855, Posts: 1,064,075
Not to mention, automotiveforums.com:

Members: 92,758, Threads: 126,514, Posts: 1,176,290

[The Keeper]

Is there much of an improvement in this release on parsing styles? If you look at my forums, you'll see they're not all that complex, but vB3 makes them look horrific after an upgrade and I'm looking at at least 3 or 4 hours to get back through everything and redo all my styles, then god knows how long after that to do testing.

[LilPimpnRapper]

When Will the Beta Be through And Vbulletin 3.0 be out. Should I wait for that to come out. If i get Vb 2.3.2 can I update it to 3.0 when it comes out?

??????

[Zachery]

@ lil rapper if your just starting go with vb3



@ rob
I have a custom skin for my VB 2.32. If I upgrade to VB3 beta 6 will it still be compatible at this point? I know there are skin/theme changes for RC.

Thanks for any info.

Rob

no youd have to port it manually

[Cense]

Will vB 3 ever get out of the Beta stage because I would like to start my forums off with the final release version or I'd have to go with vB 2.3.2 for now...

[Martin CX]

Will vB 3 ever get out of the Beta stage because I would like to start my forums off with the final release version or I'd have to go with vB 2.3.2 for now...

No, vB3 will never get out of the Beta stage. ;)

Seriously, I appreciate fully your predicament, I've been there myself. I switched to vB3 Beta a couple of months ago and it's been stable as a rock -- the only problem is that the final style has yet to be done (but perhaps we'll get it with the next release, the RC, in six weeks time (knock on wood)) -- so if you are going to modify your templates heavely I would jump on the vB3 wagon right now. If not, however, I would probably wait for the RC and go with vB2 for now.

[Zachery]

if your just starting ive said it all over the place GO WITH vB3 NO SENSE IN LEARNING vB2 if you just going to upgrade when it goes RC1

[wacnstac]

I am still running vb 2.3.0. Will I be forced to upgrade to 2.3.2 in order to upgrade to 3.0.0 whenever it comes out?

[Zachery]

AFAIK no, you should be able to upgrade from vb 2.2.9 or 2.3.x

[Yuber]

@ lil rapper if your just starting go with vb3



@ rob
I have a custom skin for my VB 2.32. If I upgrade to VB3 beta 6 will it still be compatible at this point? I know there are skin/theme changes for RC.

Thanks for any info.

Rob

no youd have to port it manually
You'll have to convert your vB2 style to a vB3 version.

[Zachery]

isnt that what i just said?

[S.Shady]

no you said you will be able to get to vb3 from 2.3.0

[AZone]

Question: Can I start to translate my forum into Russian, using "Language & Phrases" menu in Admin CP? (vB 3.0.0 Beta 6) I mean, is it possible that I'll have problem with later versions of vB, if I translate my board now?

[Wayne Luke]

You can translate the admin and moderator control panels. The majority of the front-end phrases have yet to be created with the new style.

[AZone]

Thank you.

[TheEDIGuy]

I just noticed that the "Mark Forum as Read" behavior has changed. Prior to Beta6 (or maybe Beta5, since I didn't do that version), marking a forum as read would place you back in the forum. Now, it brings you back up a level.

I had asked specifically for this to be changed, so I was a little stunned to see it in place, with no apparent mention of it anywhere. But it got me thinking, what else that wasn't in a bug report has changed that isn't listed anywhere? Is there a list?

[Kier]

Nope, there isn't a complete list of changes for beta releases.

This was changed as a favour to Paul Lara, who admins at the Newtek.com forums.

[AZone]

One more question about translation - can I translate vBulletin FAQ, or it's a subject to change too?

[Kier]

It will almost certainly change.

[AZone]

Thank you for feedback and great job in developing vB forum...

[ricoche]

Hi there,

I've had vbulletin 3 beta 6 installed since the release. It has worked extremely well until I upgraded my server to PHP 4.3.3 today. Since then I have been unable to login to my admincp. I can login to the board and post, but the admincp is completely off limits now. I have no idea what happened.

Could anybody ( who is actually running vb3 and php 4.3.3 ) please confirm that vb3 will work with php 4.3.3. Or perhaps might understand what happened?

EDIT: I have it working now. I just cleared the history, temp files, several times and worked with opening and closing new browsers. Finally I was able to get in there. Very strange, but hopefully all is well now. Thanks.

[Kier]

We have been running PHP 4.3.3 on this server since it came out...

[SaintDog]

Just another confirmation on PHP 4.3.3, I upgraded 3 servers last night, all of which run vBulletin and work perfectly fine :).

[mtha]

Hi there,

I've had vbulletin 3 beta 6 installed since the release. It has worked extremely well until I upgraded my server to PHP 4.3.3 today. Since then I have been unable to login to my admincp. I can login to the board and post, but the admincp is completely off limits now. I have no idea what happened.

Could anybody ( who is actually running vb3 and php 4.3.3 ) please confirm that vb3 will work with php 4.3.3. Or perhaps might understand what happened?

EDIT: I have it working now. I just cleared the history, temp files, several times and worked with opening and closing new browsers. Finally I was able to get in there. Very strange, but hopefully all is well now. Thanks.
This was known as "Can't log into ACP (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73439)" issue. You can go over there and read over 200 posts in this topic :) It's not new nor strainge anymore.

Cookies drive us headache!

[Nosferatu]

d00d i found out you need to reset your headinclude template for it to work properly :D


Errrr... I found the same problems while updating... tried reverting headinclude but it still doesnt seem to be working?

I'm confused :(

EDIT:

that did actually work it seems... but for some reason my ftp didnt upload the editor graphics... how strange ;)

cheers,

[CompMaster]

I want to join the vbulletin team and than to translate all the versions to hebrew

[Ogden2k]

Hi there,

I've had vbulletin 3 beta 6 installed since the release. It has worked extremely well until I upgraded my server to PHP 4.3.3 today. Since then I have been unable to login to my admincp. I can login to the board and post, but the admincp is completely off limits now. I have no idea what happened.

Could anybody ( who is actually running vb3 and php 4.3.3 ) please confirm that vb3 will work with php 4.3.3. Or perhaps might understand what happened?
PHP 4.3.3 and MySQL 40.0.15. Works great with Beta 6.

[good2laugh]

You can translate the admin and moderator control panels. The majority of the front-end phrases have yet to be created with the new style.
When are these going to be created? Any chance of that happening before my subscription expires? :mad:

[Throwing Shapes]

Is it a waste of money to buy a skin from someone who's developed for VB3 Beta 6? Will it work with the final release is the question, maybe I should see if they give a free update for when the final release is unveiled?

Anyone have any suggestions, I'm sick of my current skin and I have no idea when the final release will be so like i'm just hanging in limbo and limbo sux.

[kerplunk]

Is it a waste of money to buy a skin from someone who's developed for VB3 Beta 6? Will it work with the final release is the question, maybe I should see if they give a free update for when the final release is unveiled?

Anyone have any suggestions, I'm sick of my current skin and I have no idea when the final release will be so like i'm just hanging in limbo and limbo sux.
It's a big waste unless you plan on using vB Beta 6 for a long time.

The vB3 style is not out yet, so I'd wait.

[Rynthar]

Well, just to give you my situation. I am paid a designer to design a style for VB3 Beta 5/6 as well as a custom skin for VB3 gold. Since there might be another 1-2 months till RC1, and a nother month or so after that until VB3 Gold, I probably will be using beta for another 3-4 more months. Thus, buying a skin that offers a VB3 Gold upgrade isn't that bad.

[Ky Kiske]

I finally got this and installed it...THANK GOD...I have been a fan of vbulletin for the past two years...seriously.

[Ogden2k]

Is there an option for Mods to be able to see censored words in vB3?

[Throwing Shapes]

Well, just to give you my situation. I paid a designer to design a style for VB3 Beta 5/6 as well as a custom skin for VB3 gold. Since there might be another 1-2 months till RC1, and a nother month or so after that until VB3 Gold, I probably will be using beta for another 3-4 more months. Thus, buying a skin that offers a VB3 Gold upgrade isn't that bad.Rynthar, Who did yours? Could you give me their website or email address?

[Rynthar]

Sure man. www.insidethepixel.com . However, I do not think he is doing any custom beta styles at the moment as he is bogged down with other projects =( I reccomend http://www.vbulletinstyles.com/index.php?go=vb3skins ( www.vbulletinstyles.com (http://www.vbulletinstyles.com) ). A little cheaper for custom work, but their styles offered are good.

[Lumina]

I want to join the vbulletin team and than to translate all the versions to hebrewYou don't need to enter the vbulletin team to make a translation for vBulletin. You just have to use the language tools provided with the software.

And I think other people have already started a translation to Hebrew.

[CompMaster]

But I can translate it to Hebrew so there will be more users who will use the vbulletin system I know what I'm talking about I have some friends that aren't understand English so they also want to buy vbulletin but the don't only because the is translation to Hebrew

[Weasel]

I have some friends that aren't understand English so they also want to buy vbulletin but the don't only because the is translation to Hebrew The vBulletin team should be begging you to head their new translation department...really.

[Throwing Shapes]

Could someone tell me which one of these sites (vbskinS.com or vbskinZ.com) is run by "Corey" a.k.a. the guy who rips people off. I can't remember, I like the look of what's offered on vbskinZ.com but if the site is affiliated with Corey, I will look elsewhere. :mad:

[Zachery]

vbskins.com is owned by corey and every there is automated. no ripping off to be done there


however i belive their styles are over done, every one has them that can get them.

[Zachery]

But I can translate it to Hebrew so there will be more users who will use the vbulletin system I know what I'm talking about I have some friends that aren't understand English so they also want to buy vbulletin but the don't only because the is translation to Hebrew
so please do so to help the community :)

get vb3 and use the tools to do it :D

[Throwing Shapes]

vbskins.com is owned by corey and every there is automated. no ripping off to be done there


however i belive their styles are over done, every one has them that can get them.I meant ripping off, in terms of him not delivering finished product to clients who have payed. I read about it here http://www.raviowarning.com

[Zachery]

yes that would be his site

[CompMaster]

but I don't have one I'm not a member (I can't afford it)

[AZone]

Thus you're trying to become a dev.team member to be able to use vBulletin Board without paying money for license? Translation to Hebrew as a payment?
Hmm...

[Zachery]

id trasnlate it to 1337 or l33t for a free copy :D

hell id learn a language to get a free copy :D

[yarivot26]

I'am translating vb to my forum (http://www.dbz.co.il/forum) when I done I'll give the translation to the vb team
P.S.
I need the vb3 beta5 but it's not in the member area, how can I get it?

[Zachery]

beta 6 is the current beta, use that :P

[HexOnxOnx]

I'am translating vb to my forum (http://www.dbz.co.il/forum) when I done I'll give the translation to the vb team
P.S.
I need the vb3 beta5 but it's not in the member area, how can I get it?
Once a new beta version is out you can't get the old ones.