PayPal vs. 2Checkout

[Dotagious]

Is one "better" than the other?

[Gavin.]

They aren't really in the same leauge.

Paypal deals with "money" transfers and requires both the buyer and seller to signup to their service before it can be used.

2checkout is for credit card processing only and does not require the buyer to signup for anything special.

I personally use both (paypal for non-creditcard transactions) and 2checkout for credit card processing. :)

[Dotagious]

They aren't really in the same leauge.

Paypal deals with "money" transfers and requires both the buyer and seller to signup to their service before it can be used.

2checkout is for credit card processing only and does not require the buyer to signup for anything special.

I personally use both (paypal for non-creditcard transactions) and 2checkout for credit card processing. :)

Thanks Gavin. Could you recommend a shopping cart program (free or otherwise) that allows the use of both?

Also, you use PayPal for non-credit card payments... so is it safe to assume you use a personal account and not a premier or business account? I guess it would be possible to have two PayPal accounts for both (considering if someone had a PayPal account already and wanted to pay using a credit card, PayPal takes less from the sale) but that would require two bank accounts...so... hrm...

Also, is there any other services that provide similar but possibly better services?

[Mr. HillBilly]

This link may help


http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68731

[Gavin.]

Thanks Gavin. Could you recommend a shopping cart program (free or otherwise) that allows the use of both?

Also, you use PayPal for non-credit card payments... so is it safe to assume you use a personal account and not a premier or business account? I guess it would be possible to have two PayPal accounts for both (considering if someone had a PayPal account already and wanted to pay using a credit card, PayPal takes less from the sale) but that would require two bank accounts...so... hrm...

Also, is there any other services that provide similar but possibly better services?

oscommerce (www.oscommerce.com) is a good shopping cart :)
You can have both a personal paypal account as well as a business/premier account, but you will need a verify each account with unique method (ie you can't use the same credit card). To make online sales using paypal's seller features you will need to have a business/premier account...

Also, paypal can take credit card transactions, however the payer still needs to sign up (which isn't that great if they don't already have one) which is why most people tend to use a seperate dedicated cc processor.

[Dotagious]

This link may help


http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68731

That has got to be the funniest thing I've done/seen in months. HAHAHAHAHAAHA

My memory is SHOT

[Erwin]

Has anyone integrated anything else besides Paypal into vB3?

[Surrix]

I think that if you have the business account and you make the transaction page I don't think they have to sign up if they are going to use a Credit Card to transfer. I have seen paypal transaction pages that just ask for the credit card not a user id

[tgillespie]

I use both services. I find more people use 2CheckOut because it is simple and dosn't include a sign up. The only negative is the $50 start up fee, and the chunk they take out of each transaction.

[Chen]

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71990&highlight=2checkout+paypal
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71847&highlight=2checkout+paypal
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68731&highlight=2checkout+paypal
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59180&highlight=2checkout+paypal

[tgillespie]

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71990&highlight=2checkout+paypal
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71847&highlight=2checkout+paypal
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=68731&highlight=2checkout+paypal
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59180&highlight=2checkout+paypalVery good feedback. I agree with a lot of it. 2CheckOut is a little out dated and under supported, but it's still a cheap credit card processor. I found when using just PayPal, we lost up to 70% of customers because they were confused with "PayPal".

[vB3Dev.Com]

I would use both since people in the Middle East and other 3rd world countries cannot use payPal

[N9ne]

I use both services. I find more people use 2CheckOut because it is simple and dosn't include a sign up. The only negative is the $50 start up fee, and the chunk they take out of each transaction.
$50 startup for 2checkout?! :(. Also, how much % of each transaction do they take out?

[Chen]

It says everything on the front page - $49 startup fees, 5.5% of each transaction plus $0.45 per transaction.

[nuno]

They both suck...period.

[Chen]

They both suck...period.
You have any better ideas? :)

[MarkB]

I'd love to have a 'real' CC merchant account. Alas, unless you're pulling the big bucks, it's hard to get one through your bank... (or justify the cost!). And if you're not in the US, it's ever harder to get one online!

So much for a world economy :p

I use both 2Checkout and PayPal. People *can* buy through PayPal without having an account - plenty have, to pay me - BUT a lot of people just cannot use their cards with PayPal for some reason. So I started using 2checkout again, and have scored a few more sales from it.

Now to get people to buy more regularly, and not have to wait up to 2 months for my money ;)

[Gavin.]

They both suck...period.

Never had any major problems with either :) A client once decided he would to rip me off and try to get my account frozen by disputing a charge, but it was sorted out quickly by paypal and all worked out :)

[Dotagious]

I'd love to have a 'real' CC merchant account. Alas, unless you're pulling the big bucks, it's hard to get one through your bank... (or justify the cost!). And if you're not in the US, it's ever harder to get one online!

So much for a world economy :p

I use both 2Checkout and PayPal. People *can* buy through PayPal without having an account - plenty have, to pay me - BUT a lot of people just cannot use their cards with PayPal for some reason. So I started using 2checkout again, and have scored a few more sales from it.

Now to get people to buy more regularly, and not have to wait up to 2 months for my money ;)

hrm.. about your last statement... does it really take that long to get your money from 2checkout?

[tubedogg]

If you are an international seller making less than a certain threshold per month (which I believe varies per country) you will not get paid until you meet the threshold.

If you are US-based this doesn't apply.

[Dotagious]

If you are an international seller making less than a certain threshold per month (which I believe varies per country) you will not get paid until you meet the threshold.

If you are US-based this doesn't apply.

gottcha, thanks. :)

[Dotagious]

Does anyone here use authorize.net or paysystems?

[Dotagious]

Welp, I've checked out paysystems and it looks really good. I would like to hear from anyone who has or does use them.

[Joe Gronlund]

i think i'll stick to paypal :)

[MarkB]

I use PaySystems (although less and less) and I've never ever had a problem with them. They even once called from Canada, to Australia, to iron out a payment problem when they'd sent a cheque with my site's name on it instead of my personal name. Payment is always fast, and glitch-free (except for the one time mentioned above:)).

I'd keep using them if they offered oscommerce integration...