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glenv
Sat 16th Aug '03, 5:47pm
I have noticed that currently that all VBB Code and HTML do not get displayed as such. That is urls are not linkable that are created within the body of a message.

An HTML string just shows up as raw.

VBB Code shows up with () around the url thus disabling it.

Will this be repaired before final release? As someone that is currently using Tecks Archive Hack, I have learned the true value of these features being enabled. Please update us on that.

Second: Will you be adding features to the Archive Feature that will takethe name of the thread and make it also the description meta tag for that page in the archive? Again, a valuable feature in existing hacks.

There is also a feature currently generating keywords from the message itself.

I look forward to your response.

Thank you

FASherman
Sat 16th Aug '03, 6:35pm
I would like to see the ability to "Spider as Usergroup X" feature.

Currently, each category on my forums are limited to a certain usergroup. The News forums, to the News usergroup, the Sports category to the sports usergroup and so on.

This means a spider can't affectively parse my forum. I would like to create a spider usergroup that has read-only access to every forum and treat spiders as though it were part of the spider group.

glenv
Sun 17th Aug '03, 6:30pm
Just seeing if anyone had an answer or if you can point me to a thread this is already discussed in.

hankster
Sun 17th Aug '03, 7:20pm
If your unregistered group can read messages then your forum can be spidered. Since spiders can not "log in" they can't belong to a group.

MrNase
Mon 18th Aug '03, 1:46am
...but they can be identified and treaded as belonging to a certain usergroup:



If $HTTP_USER_AGENT == slurp
{
$usergroup == 3 ;
}


so the bot won't need to register. he's not beeing send to the guest group but to the group with id 3.
(code above not working, iam too tired ;))

merk
Mon 18th Aug '03, 9:49am
and how do you know of every bot that might spider your forums?

MrNase
Mon 18th Aug '03, 1:16pm
*grmpf* The details have to be worked out ;)


iplists.com ... Just load the lists and check wether the ip of the current archiv visitor is listed there :)

GameCrash
Mon 18th Aug '03, 2:41pm
How does that make sense? If you do that, in fact everyone can visit every forum (using the search engines caches), so you can simply give everyone read-only-access to every forum. This is in fact the same result, and it makes much less work...

FASherman
Mon 18th Aug '03, 3:06pm
How does that make sense? If you do that, in fact everyone can visit every forum (using the search engines caches), so you can simply give everyone read-only-access to every forum. This is in fact the same result, and it makes much less work...

When you have 55 different forums over a variety of topics, not every WANTS read access. They prefer access by subscription. Just because an idea doesn't work for the way you manage your site doesn't mean it doesn't have value.

Let me try to explain again...

ALL of my forums are open to any registered user IF they want to "subscribe" to them by joining the public group for that category of forums - sports for example. They might choose NOT to join that group, in which case, they never see the sports forums. We have gals that are only concerned with books, movies, and other entertainment type stuff and they never joint he sports usergroup.

But since they are ALL available to everyone, I'd like to have them spidered.

Does that make sense now?

GameCrash
Mon 18th Aug '03, 6:14pm
Yes, sorry I misunderstood you.

But then again, shouldn't it be possible to simply give guests access to every forum? That would have two benefits: the search enige can spider everything and the guests see what they can get and why they should register ;)

FASherman
Tue 19th Aug '03, 1:40pm
Yes, sorry I misunderstood you.

But then again, shouldn't it be possible to simply give guests access to every forum? That would have two benefits: the search enige can spider everything and the guests see what they can get and why they should register ;)

I am starting to lean in that direction, but 50 something forums can also be intimidating. I may switch it to see the registration rate increases or decreases.

dpkm
Thu 21st Aug '03, 1:39am
Since I imagine all of these should be kept in the same thread...

Would it be possible to generate the title of the archive pages in a similar way to the corresponding non-archive pages?

As it stands currently, all of the archive threads have the same title (the title of the bulletin board). I would prefer it if each thread used the thread title (and similarly, if the forum used the forum title).

Another small concern - would it be possible to have the same copyright statement in the archive as in the main forum? As it currently stands, it only shows VB's copyright. Not a huge deal, as it is an easy hack to add, but I suppose it is something that should be there.

Joe
Mon 6th Oct '03, 6:22pm
Any word on titles in the archive?