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Duke of Lions
Thu 31st Jul '03, 12:36am
Hi guys,

I am planning on installing Debian on my computer, I have a licence for vbulletin which is running on a webserver. May I install vbulletin on my home webserver and host another domain on it? It's my home computer and I think that is possible.

Also, are there any vbulletin webservers running Debian "woody"? And do you think it is a good choice, (once I got it installed I mean :p)?

tgillespie
Thu 31st Jul '03, 12:43am
Hi guys,

I am planning on installing Debian on my computer, I have a licence for vbulletin which is running on a webserver. May I install vbulletin on my home webserver and host another domain on it? It's my home computer and I think that is possible.

Also, are there any vbulletin webservers running Debian "woody"? And do you think it is a good choice, (once I got it installed I mean :p)?With one vBulletin lisence you are allowed to run one public and one private install. If your home webserver isn't public, then yes, you can install a second copy vBulletin.

Also, I'm pretty sure it will perform on debian. I have not used the OS in a few years, and even then I wasn't able to get familiar with it. I'm sure Wayne can give you a better answer.

Duke of Lions
Thu 31st Jul '03, 12:51am
With one vBulletin lisence you are allowed to run one public and one private install. If your home webserver isn't public, then yes, you can install a second copy vBulletin.

Also, I'm pretty sure it will perform on debian. I have not used the OS in a few years, and even then I wasn't able to get familiar with it. I'm sure Wayne can give you a better answer.


You mean I can't run a public website on my home computer with vbulletin?

I also think most people run Red Hat, altough I have heard Debian is more stable, if you use the stable version. Do you know of any sites running Debian and vBulletin?

tgillespie
Thu 31st Jul '03, 1:32am
You can have one public forum and one private forum. If you already have another forum on the same lisence, your home server with vBulletin on it can not be used by the public. Basically, you can have a test copy running and a public copy running.

I do not know of any Debian/vBulletin combos ATM.

tgillespie
Thu 31st Jul '03, 1:35am
Ok. Debain and vBulletin will work. I should of thought of this, but arn't Redhat and Debain built on the same kernal? Just packaged differently?

Anyways, I'm sure it will work, and once you get it running correctly, it should be a very solid server.

Wayne Luke
Thu 31st Jul '03, 1:56am
Hi guys,

I am planning on installing Debian on my computer, I have a licence for vbulletin which is running on a webserver. May I install vbulletin on my home webserver and host another domain on it? It's my home computer and I think that is possible.

Also, are there any vbulletin webservers running Debian "woody"? And do you think it is a good choice, (once I got it installed I mean :p)?
No, you may not host another instance of vBulletin with your current license.

vBulletin will run fine under a Debian installation as long as Apache, MySQL and PHP are installed properly. vBulletin does not require any specific operating system. Technically speaking there is no difference between Redhat Linux or Debian Linux at the OS level.

tgillespie
Thu 31st Jul '03, 2:14am
No, you may not host another instance of vBulletin with your current license.

vBulletin will run fine under a Debian installation as long as Apache, MySQL and PHP are installed properly. vBulletin does not require any specific operating system. Technically speaking there is no difference between Redhat Linux or Debian Linux at the OS level.Can't he run a test version and a public version?

Duke of Lions
Thu 31st Jul '03, 3:00am
vBulletin will run fine under a Debian installation as long as Apache, MySQL and PHP are installed properly.

So, I guess you have Debian installed, if I maybe so free....
What are your settings for Apache, MySQL and PHP?

I know it's a bit off topic, but...
I really like the way Debian (http://www.debian.org)approaches things.....

qxh
Thu 31st Jul '03, 4:38am
My webserver runs Red Hat Linux, though the server I'm hosting my IRC on is running debian (http://irc.gamewizards.net:80)

f-a_org
Thu 31st Jul '03, 6:04am
Debian is a very nice "Intermediate - Guru" os.
it's not for newbies, if you install debian
as your webserver you will need to know, alot about comand line commands, and admining.
My Web Site used to be hosted on rh, now theyre on unix.
can some one change my vote to unix, I clicked RH on accident.

Duke of Lions
Thu 31st Jul '03, 8:45am
My webserver runs Red Hat Linux, though the server I'm hosting my IRC on is running debian (http://irc.gamewizards.net:80)

I think you set up the wrong port....

Mr. X
Thu 31st Jul '03, 9:36am
Can't he run a test version and a public version?

Yes he can, as long as the test version isnt public. He was asking if he could also make the home install public, which you cant do with one license.

Myself, my webhost uses Redhat. My test forum is based on Apache for Windows (XP). I'm installing Redhat 9 in a few days (got a fat 160gb HD so I finally have space for it) and I'll throw vB on that too along with my other scripts/sites, essentially mirroring what I have on XP, just in a Linux environment for good measure.

Wayne Luke
Thu 31st Jul '03, 1:09pm
Can't he run a test version and a public version?
He didn't ask if he could run a test version. I was answering the question he asked.

Wayne Luke
Thu 31st Jul '03, 1:13pm
So, I guess you have Debian installed, if I maybe so free....
What are your settings for Apache, MySQL and PHP?

I know it's a bit off topic, but...
I really like the way Debian (http://www.debian.org)approaches things.....
No I don't have Debian installed. I actually use Suse Linux at home and my current server is running Redhat Linux. However future servers will be running Suse Linux Professional in run level 3. However the distribution doesn't matter. I can guarantee this.

My settings for Apache, MySQL and PHP are a little too complex to list here and there are a lot of dependancies for my PHP installation. My suggestion to you is to simply install Apache from either apt-get or the source code, then compile and install php --with-mysql --with-gzip and go from there. MySQL is a separate server Deamon and installed by default on most Linux Distributions these days, the notable exception being Redhat which installs Postgre by default. However even Redhat includes RPM's for MySQL should you choose to install it.

f-a_org
Thu 31st Jul '03, 3:23pm
It seems some programs need every dependencie available to work.

im stuck because:
Suse F***s up my screen, and RH doesn't Burn CD's Right.

I burnt Mandrake in suse, and it gives me comrpession errors.
same as jamd,
so Im going to sneak and buy RH9 today hopefully, maybe !

Philipp
Thu 31st Jul '03, 7:37pm
Also, are there any vbulletin webservers running Debian "woody"? And do you think it is a good choice, (once I got it installed I mean :p)?

I running current Debian here on my workstation as main os. No problems with PHP/MySQL applications.

However, I would replace the original Debian MySQL 3.23.41 install with Norbert Tretkowski's excellent MySQL 4.0.12 backport (available here - http://people.debian.org/~nobse/debian/woody/backported/mysql/ ) to get advantage of the query caching feature.

Shining Arcanine
Thu 31st Jul '03, 9:20pm
Sadily, my host uses Linux. Anyone with Win2k+3 Server is lucky.

Wayne Luke
Thu 31st Jul '03, 9:39pm
Sadily, my host uses Linux. Anyone with Win2k+3 Server is lucky.
Hmmm... Don't know of any advantages it would give me since I do not use .NET, so I will stick to Linux.

Duke of Lions
Thu 7th Aug '03, 10:14pm
Well, I got Debian setup a few days ago... It's not that hard, just remember that the virtual frame buffer can be a pain in the ... and you have all your handbooks of your monitor (for the vertical and horizontal sync rate). And document what exactly you have on your computer.... (hardware-wys) I mean. (Monitor, Soundcard, HD's, etc). I still like it very much, it has an option to choose the Gnome Display Manager or the K Display Manager. In short: I fell in love with it already!

He didn't ask if he could run a test version. I was answering the question he asked.

Well, how do you define a test version then? Can I use it by myself for posting links and documents, that I really want to keep? I'll make it a private forum, so nobody can see....

Also I registered quite some domains.... Is there an affiliate program or a reseller program which will save me some money?

Sadily, my host uses Linux. Anyone with Win2k+3 Server is lucky.

And poor! No sorry, I really disagree, I would use *nix or FreeBSD

I running current Debian here on my workstation as main os. No problems with PHP/MySQL applications.

However, I would replace the original Debian MySQL 3.23.41 install with Norbert Tretkowski's excellent MySQL 4.0.12 backport (available here - http://people.debian.org/~nobse/deb...ckported/mysql/ (http://people.debian.org/~nobse/debian/woody/backported/mysql/) ) to get advantage of the query caching feature.

Can I use apt-get update then?

It seems some programs need every dependencie available to work.

im stuck because:
Suse F***s up my screen, and RH doesn't Burn CD's Right.

I burnt Mandrake in suse, and it gives me comrpession errors.
same as jamd,
so Im going to sneak and buy RH9 today hopefully, maybe !http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/images/clear.gif
Well, no problem with Debian and dependencies, just use the apt-get and it will work, and free as well...

Sorry if I sound like promoting Debian, I don't get anything in return (since it's free), just a happy user

qxh
Thu 7th Aug '03, 10:30pm
I think you set up the wrong port....
irc://irc.gamewizards.net:6667 is the port to connect to IRC, I was simply demonstrating the "debian" page.. LOL

poolking
Thu 7th Aug '03, 10:31pm
My host uses Linux but I don't know which distribution as I'm a shared account.

Erwin
Thu 7th Aug '03, 10:49pm
RH 7.3 for my private forums. Will have to upgrade to 9 or change as EOL for RH 7 and 8 are by the end of this year.

Duke of Lions
Fri 8th Aug '03, 3:35am
RH 7.3 for my private forums. Will have to upgrade to 9 or change as EOL for RH 7 and 8 are by the end of this year.

Why you chose RH?

Erwin
Fri 8th Aug '03, 4:55am
It came with my server. :) But it's meant to be the easiest OS to use, and is stable.

Faruk
Fri 8th Aug '03, 9:01am
Sadily, my host uses Linux. Anyone with Win2k+3 Server is lucky.
Anyone with a Windows Server is at a loss :)
There really is only one advantage for windows servers, and that's a better filesystem-permissions combination.

We (http://www.mediadesign.nl/) run Debian on nearly all our webservers (we run a Boa for image server on one) because it's extremely stable and reliable, and fast as all hell. We're all Debian-enthusiasts here, because it's so flexible that it works excellent as both a webserver as well as a normal workstation for ourselves.

Debian's approach to programs and updates is indeed great and very useful. Debian++ ^_^

Faruk
Fri 8th Aug '03, 9:04am
Well, as stable as RH may be, I highly doubt it'll ever beat the Debian Stable releases. Those are embarrassingly stable (ie. simply never crash on any hardware configuration) and thus perfect for webservers :)

(the only time we've ever seen a debian stable crash is due to hardware problems, never anything in the OS or so)

Philipp
Fri 8th Aug '03, 6:39pm
Can I use apt-get update then?

Yes, add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list:

# Woody backports by Norbert Tretkowski (nobse)
deb http://people.debian.org/~nobse/debian/woody/backported/ ./
deb-src http://people.debian.org/~nobse/debian/woody/backported/ ./

If you like to enable InnoDB support on this backport, you need to change the following in /etc/mysql/my.cnf:

skip-innodb
to
#skip-innodb

Then restart MySQL with /etc/init.d/mysql restart

Well, no problem with Debian and dependencies, just use the apt-get and it will work, and free as well...

There is also an apt-get for RPM based distros. However, I recommend YUM (Yellow dog Updater, Modified) (http://linux.duke.edu/projects/yum/) on Red Hat Linux. It seems like that YUM will be also included as part of the next Red Hat release, because there is now a YUM package in rawhide (http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/rawhide/i386/RedHat/RPMS/yum-2.0-1.noarch.rpm)

S.Shady
Fri 8th Aug '03, 10:11pm
im going to use an old comp i have as a linux sever for personal use i beleve

Duke of Lions
Tue 12th Aug '03, 9:22pm
Sadily, my host uses Linux. Anyone with Win2k+3 Server is lucky.

Hahaha, do you now (http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/08/12/windows.worm/index.html) still tinkt the same?, Shining Arcanine?

Also here's something (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79955)

Joe Gronlund
Tue 12th Aug '03, 9:26pm
RH is all i would trust, vB3 will run very stable on Windows Server 2003 for those choosing those servers in the near future when installed properly..

aric
Tue 12th Aug '03, 10:35pm
Running on a Mac OSX Server. Unix. :D :D :D

qatarson
Wed 13th Aug '03, 4:38am
sure linux