View Full Version : Suggestion: Reputation System must be improve
inetd
Wed 18th Jun '03, 7:14am
It seems to me, that increase / decrease of reputation of the user should fulfil in other method.
It should not be the new window.
The idealest variant, in my opinion, if to the left of the post, near a level of reputation, will be + and - for voting for or against.
It seems to me, it will be more clear.
Freezerator
Wed 18th Jun '03, 8:02am
in the current mode it is for users to complicated to rate a user i think.
it would be much easy-er if you can directly vote on someone, without a reason.
inetd
Wed 18th Jun '03, 8:47am
in the current mode it is for users to complicated to rate a user i think.
it would be much easy-er if you can directly vote on someone, without a reason. I speak about it.
TonyG
Wed 18th Jun '03, 8:51am
Definently would be more clear, and alot easier to add reputation too. :)
inetd
Sat 28th Jun '03, 2:00pm
Devs, you plan to improve system of reputation?
Wayne Luke
Sat 28th Jun '03, 2:18pm
No they don't it is currently the best conceivable method so the person doesn't have to leave the thread to use the reputation system.
You can always change this behavior through changing the templates but they will lose track of their position in the thread.
feldon23
Mon 30th Jun '03, 1:29pm
comments?
Freddie Bingham
Mon 30th Jun '03, 1:39pm
What do you suggest one does with the ability to leave a comment?
feldon23
Mon 30th Jun '03, 1:56pm
Do I have to solve all the world's problems today? :)
Wayne Luke
Mon 30th Jun '03, 3:56pm
You aren't rating the user directly though. You are rating the user's post in a thread which then reflects on that user in the long run.
inetd
Mon 30th Jun '03, 4:00pm
You aren't rating the user directly though. You are rating the user's post in a thread which then reflects on that user in the long run.Why exhibiting of an estimation should be in a new window, instead of by means of system suggested by feldon?
feldon23
Mon 30th Jun '03, 4:30pm
I can do this all day.
http://www.feldoncentral.com/forumpics/Reputation3.gif
inetd
Mon 30th Jun '03, 4:32pm
I can do this all day.
http://www.feldoncentral.com/forumpics/Reputation3.gif
Your sug - the best. But I can't understand why devs don't want make this in vB3.
Freddie Bingham
Mon 30th Jun '03, 4:40pm
I'm considering what has been said in this thread, just haven't gotten back to it yet.
inetd
Mon 30th Jun '03, 4:59pm
I'm considering what has been said in this thread, just haven't gotten back to it yet.
Sorry, I don't understand you :(
Freezerator
Mon 30th Jun '03, 5:12pm
He says, he will think about it, and when he has some time left he will get deeper into it.
inetd
Mon 30th Jun '03, 6:27pm
Thank you very much!
Dart1337
Mon 30th Jun '03, 11:22pm
I can do this all day.
http://www.feldoncentral.com/forumpics/Reputation3.gif
Good deal, Feldon. I like. :tup:
insanctus
Tue 1st Jul '03, 1:27am
It is easier, but seeing as it is an extra feature I can under stand why they did it as they did (less mess).
It would not be a hard template mod to get the look you are wanting.
Freddie Bingham
Tue 1st Jul '03, 2:42am
I think this is best left the way it is. If it were to be made so that all you have to do is click an image to give or take reputation, then someone could easily dupe someone into giving reputation by redirecting them to the action called by the image. Going through a form stops this from happening.
inetd
Tue 1st Jul '03, 9:58am
I think this is best left the way it is. If it were to be made so that all you have to do is click an image to give or take reputation, then someone could easily dupe someone into giving reputation by redirecting them to the action called by the image. Going through a form stops this from happening.
There are two variants:
1. It will be safe, but is not popular.
2. It will be popular and convenient function, but with the lacks.
I choose 2.
As it is possible to establish, that clicks made on showthread.php / showpost.php were taken into account only.
And in adjustments of the forbidden phrases to establish URL which is necessary for exhibiting a rating. It will allow to avoid links for exhibiting ratings immediately in posts.
Freddie Bingham
Tue 1st Jul '03, 11:35am
If you wish to have option #2 then you can modify the code to support it. It would be a trivial thing to do for someone experienced in php.
inetd
Tue 1st Jul '03, 1:20pm
freddie, I don't know PHP & mySQL. :(
And see this thread. The majority of users want variant 2.
wolfman
Tue 1st Jul '03, 2:06pm
I prefer to have it pretty much the way it is. Simply because if it was too easy to use it would be abused.
okrogius
Tue 1st Jul '03, 2:11pm
freddie, I don't know PHP & mySQL. :(
And see this thread. The majority of users want variant 2.
One user doesn't qualift as majority. Implementing option two would require minimal effort, and if you're so set on wanting it you are more then free to do it.
Peronally I stronly prefer your option number 1.
Freddie Bingham
Tue 1st Jul '03, 2:47pm
freddie, I don't know PHP & mySQL. :(
And see this thread. The majority of users want variant 2.
Remind me when the RC is released and I will post a hack for you to do this on vbulletin.org.
TripleH
Tue 1st Jul '03, 2:51pm
Time to bookmark the thread. .lol
inetd
Tue 1st Jul '03, 10:41pm
Remind me when the RC is released and I will post a hack for you to do this on vbulletin.org.Thank you!
fury
Tue 1st Jul '03, 11:22pm
No they don't it is currently the best conceivable method so the person doesn't have to leave the thread to use the reputation system.
You can always change this behavior through changing the templates but they will lose track of their position in the thread.
They lose track of their position in the thread anyway. When the reputation button is clicked, the thread scrolls to the top.
fury
Tue 1st Jul '03, 11:26pm
I prefer to have it pretty much the way it is. Simply because if it was too easy to use it would be abused.
My members have already found ways to do this. They use the reputation system's anonymity to their advantage to the point where they give bad rep all the time to someone they don't like, even if their posts are perfectly fine.
I'm thinking of modifying it so that you can choose to leave your rep as visible to get the full pointage or anonymous to only give or take one point (if you can modify reputation at all)
Wayne Luke
Wed 2nd Jul '03, 12:01am
They lose track of their position in the thread anyway. When the reputation button is clicked, the thread scrolls to the top.
Hmm.. Never experienced that myself. Maybe a quirk of the browser you are using.
fury
Wed 2nd Jul '03, 12:17am
IE6, only 50% of internet connected people use it ;)
Wayne Luke
Wed 2nd Jul '03, 2:37am
IE6, only 50% of internet connected people use it ;)
Doesn't mean it is perfect...
fury
Wed 2nd Jul '03, 2:52am
I know, but you'd think someone else would've noticed that post and said so sooner than I did...
Freddie Bingham
Wed 2nd Jul '03, 3:08am
It is not supposed to be doing that and I can see it is because of the href="#". It should only pop open the rep window and not fool around with the parent window at all. I'll move this to bugs so that this can be dealt with.
Lumina
Thu 3rd Jul '03, 9:47am
Oh, I just see this thread now !
Well, I have posted this yesterday :
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs.php?do=view&bugid=116
Between option 1 and option 2, I choose option 1 of course ! People would be very annoyed if they were harassed with bad reputation all the time, just because some people do not like them. :(
Then, I know there would be guilds wars about it :
- UserGroup A shares half of its reputation points to improve its own members, and uses the other half to decrease the UserGroup B members' reputation.
- UserGroup B does the opposite.
And each time that would be possible, someone with a new member account would use a tricky link redirection to make the whole board decreases someone else's reputation ! :(
Erwin
Fri 4th Jul '03, 12:37am
Slightly off-topic = what about a points system, that is based on post count with integration with the subscription and using points to purchase avatars etc.?
Lumina
Fri 4th Jul '03, 7:45am
Erwin,
The Postcount only depends of one user alone.
The Reputation is something that depends of every users.
Slynderdale
Fri 4th Jul '03, 10:28pm
If you have a link that contains "#", some browsers like internet explorer scroll to the top and this gets real annoying some times. Theres a way around this though, heres the method I use and it works well. Replace every occurance of "#" with "java script:;". Doing so, the browsers wont scroll to the top any more.
Note: Without the space between java and script.
TWTCommish
Tue 8th Jul '03, 10:00pm
If you have a link that contains "#", some browsers like internet explorer scroll to the top and this gets real annoying some times. Theres a way around this though, heres the method I use and it works well. Replace every occurance of "#" with "java script:;". Doing so, the browsers wont scroll to the top any more.
Note: Without the space between java and script.
Could you be more specific? I've done things like this in the past, but it seems as if it doesn't want to work. I've run into the always-frustrating "return statement is outside of function" error message.
Floris
Wed 9th Jul '03, 8:52am
Doesn't IPB have this as a feature in 1.2 now? On the left column in a postbit? (iirc)
version2
Wed 9th Jul '03, 11:29am
I made it so that a little bit of Reputation (I call it Karma) gets taken FROM a person when they give bad reputation. That makes a person think twice before just handing bad rep out all over the place.
version2
Wed 9th Jul '03, 11:31am
Hmm.. Never experienced that myself. Maybe a quirk of the browser you are using.
It happens to me, too...sometimes.
Marc Smith
Fri 25th Jul '03, 8:30pm
I prefer to have it pretty much the way it is. Simply because if it was too easy to use it would be abused.
Doesn't matter to me as long as users can still put in a 'Comment'. To me its of little value without the Comment aspect.
Marc Smith
Fri 25th Jul '03, 8:33pm
I made it so that a little bit of Reputation (I call it Karma) gets taken FROM a person when they give bad reputation. That makes a person think twice before just handing bad rep out all over the place.
How did you do this?
Marc Smith
Fri 25th Jul '03, 8:45pm
They lose track of their position in the thread anyway. When the reputation button is clicked, the thread scrolls to the top.
Same here.
Marc Smith
Fri 25th Jul '03, 8:51pm
I'm thinking of modifying it so that you can choose to leave your rep as visible to get the full pointage or anonymous to only give or take one point (if you can modify reputation at all)
If you figure out how to do this I'd appreciate knowing how.
Freddie Bingham
Sat 6th Sep '03, 1:00pm
The thread no longer reloads when the reputation button is clicked.
dutchbb
Sat 22nd Nov '03, 11:32am
The thread no longer reloads when the reputation button is clicked.
Can you please make it an option to disable anonymous voting for the rep. system in admin cp?
90% of the members on my board are against anonymous voting for the reputation system due to abuse of the system by board trolls.
Freddie Bingham
Sat 22nd Nov '03, 11:40am
Can you please make it an option to disable anonymous voting for the rep. system in admin cp?
90% of the members on my board are against anonymous voting for the reputation system due to abuse of the system by board trolls.What do you mean? There is already an usergroup permission that sets whether or not a group can see who left the comments.
dutchbb
Sat 22nd Nov '03, 1:21pm
What do you mean? There is already an usergroup permission that sets whether or not a group can see who left the comments.Ah... i was looking for that permission in "options" , didn't know it was placed in usergroup permissions. Anyway thanks :)
Marc Smith
Sat 6th Dec '03, 8:49pm
Do I have to solve all the world's problems today? :) Yes...
xxskullxx
Sun 7th Dec '03, 4:17pm
Personally I think it is fine the way it is (beside losing my place).
jonik
Tue 20th Jan '04, 12:51pm
I for one thing it is VERY necessary to make it that a user reputation can be viewed by all the users (and they can see written responses as well). That would be a great tool.
vBMechanic
Sun 8th Feb '04, 10:35am
When users start getting over 1500 points, you'll need this:
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=61174
psst. devs, this should be included in the package -- orig. author
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