Date and Time Options Not working

[alkahf]

I changed Time Zone Offset without resoult! ;)
Version 3.0.0 Beta 3

[Wayne Luke]

You changed the Time Zone offset where? Admin Control Panel, your user control panel? This board, your board?

[alkahf]

Sorry
Yes i change it from Admin Control Panel.
any change saved but time allways GMT! without any change!

Thank you

[inetd]

Sorry
Yes i change it from Admin Control Panel.
any change saved but time allways GMT! without any change!

Thank you
Confirmed.
Tested in WinXP Pro, Apache 2.0.46, PHP 4.3.2, mySQL 4.0.13.

[Steve Machol]

Confirmed as well. I made changes to the Time Zone Offset in the Admin CP in my upgraded vB3 test board and it had no affect.

[Mike Sullivan]

I don't think the time offset option in the CP has any effect anymore as GMT is now used as a base.

Is there a specific time problem you're having?

[inetd]

I don't think the time offset option in the CP has any effect anymore as GMT is now used as a base.

Is there a specific time problem you're having?
I live in Ukraine. Our time zone = GMT +2 hours
I want set this in ACP. That I to users did not need to be chosen GMT +2 in UCP. I want, that Kiev time was standard for my forum. As it was in vB2.

[Steve Machol]

I don't think the time offset option in the CP has any effect anymore as GMT is now used as a base.

Is there a specific time problem you're having?
Interesting. Is it going to be removed then since it has no affect? And just out of curiousity, how does vB3 know the time in relation to GMT if we don't tell it this?

[Mike Sullivan]

I live in Ukraine. Our time zone = GMT +2 hours
I want set this in ACP. That I to users did not need to be chosen GMT +2 in UCP. I want, that Kiev time was standard for my forum. As it was in vB2.

You would need to slightly modify register.php to select the correct time zone by default (line 820 in register.php, $timezonesel ..., is where you could change this).

[Mike Sullivan]

Interesting. Is it going to be removed then since it has no affect? And just out of curiousity, how does vB3 know the time in relation to GMT if we don't tell it this?
I'd assume it'd either be removed or its function changed slightly ... perhaps to what timezone guests see the board in. Hmm... *scribbles this on white board*

[inetd]

Very annoying feature.
I want translate All times are GMT to All times are Kiev. With this I see: All time are Kiev +3 hours...
Sh*t...
I like how it work in vB2.

[Steve Machol]

This is a beta version after all. Try to keep this in mind. :)

[inetd]

This is a beta version after all. Try to keep this in mind. :)
I constantly hold it in a head! :)
Excuse for fieriness, simply... It so irritates...
Certainly, such system is more correct. But it seems to me, that it is less convenient.

[Scott MacVicar]

Mike, we could take the JavaScript from the tz detection code already used in the DST detection, its about 3 lines and use it to select the correct value. Only problem is making sure DST is taken into account.

[Stadler]

mmh ... maybe this is related: I'm seeing 'All times are GMT +2 hours.' in the footer, but I have set the GMT-Offset to GMT+1 in my Profile.

[Scott MacVicar]

do you have DST correct set to auto correct?

[Stadler]

Yep ... but AFAIK the GMT-Offset is independent from the DST-Setting and doesn't change?

[Scott MacVicar]

well your offset is 1 hour, you have auto detect on so its detected that DST is currently active and incremented your difference by an hour. It doesn't actually change your tzoffset in the user table but changed in global.php during loading.

[Stadler]

Is it a bug, then?

[Scott MacVicar]

no its doing exactly as you asked it to.

Your timzone is +1 GMT
You have auto detect DST enabled, it has detected DST and adds an hour on to your timezone offset.

Producing +2 GMT which is the actual current timezone offset in Germany as far as I'm aware.

[Stadler]

Ahh, ok. Well, I've got used to that it's reflecting my settingand not the 'corrected' GMT-Offset.

mmh, is it possible to add something like 'DST is on' there? e. g. by using conditionals?

[Paul]

When creating the hack for DST, I elected to do the following to make it clear that DST was in effect for the person browsing:

All times are GMT -5 hours (+1 DST). The time now is 5:34 PM

That made it clear that DST was turned on. I imagine it would be helpful for certain people to see that especially in a situation where a system clock was set differently than the actual local time. I haven't played around with the time features in vb3 yet though, so I'm not really sure how it works.

[Banana]

Just one thing. It maybe that I don't want DST to be taken into account on *my* board. For example, if I have a board where everyone is used to GMT (e.g. pilots) then I may *always* want times to be shown as such - regardless of DST or timezone.

[Scott MacVicar]

under options just change the DST setting from auto detect to Off.

[Stadler]

uhm ... then the wrong time is being displayed ...

[Scott MacVicar]

I was replying to Banana and not you :)

Some people prefer having the time in GMT and not the actual timezone they are in.

[Stadler]

Well, I've thought he wants to have the same offset displayed, regardless of the DST-Setting, what means, that the timezone in the footer is reflecting the user setting, without the DST-Offset, even though, they have set DST to auto datect.

mmh ... and whats with Pauls Suggestion?

[Scott MacVicar]

I dont see the point of adding another phrase to the system just so people using your boards to get confused because they can't tell the time.

[Banana]

Thanks for disagreeing with me Steve. You obviously missed the point even when Stadler pointed it out to you :(

[Steve Machol]

Steve? :confused:

[Banana]

Scott!

[Zelda-King]

I changed Time Zone Offset without resoult! ;)
Version 3.0.0 Beta 3 I upgraded to Beta 4 and I'm still having this problem. I've noticed it's correct on this board though. What am I missing?

[Martin CX]

Sorry, but reading this thread made me confused, so if somebody would please explain the solution to me I would be grateful.

My problem is that Guests should see the time in CET DST (which is BETA Time), but they the time they are shown are GMT (which is ZULU Time and thus two hours early).

How do I go about changing that? The server time offset is correct.

[Michael2]

We're still having this problem on beta 5. Am I missing something or is this still a known issue?

[SmEdD]

Ya I have both my board and my time set to -5 yet on the home page it has -4 and it's 30 min fast.

[ChuanSE]

I have beta 4 and see no troubles with timezones except for 1.
I live in Belgium CET=GMT+1, and have auto DST detection on, never the less, it didn't add +1DST for some reason, so the auto detection isn't working i presume?

[Littlebit]

I know I'm popping into this conversation, I've been curious for a bit now because on my end...and this is every vB3 beta 6 board I have visited while logged in...at the bottom of the index it says:
All times are GMT -4 hours. The time now is....

I have my time set at GMT -5 ...
ANd I have it set to automatically detect daylight savings...

The time, however, is actually correctly showing for GMT -5 even though it says GMT -4

Have I missed a setting or something that's causing this? If this is a known bug I missed my apologies and could you please direct me to that post as I was unable to locate this doing a search.
Thanks

[Mike Sullivan]

Based on you're location, I'm going to guess you're in Eastern Standard (Daylight) Time -- same as me.

So, right now EDT is GMT -4 -- your post was at 3:26 and I'm making this one at approximately 6:00 PM. Is that what you see?

[Littlebit]

Based on you're location, I'm going to guess you're in Eastern Standard (Daylight) Time -- same as me.

So, right now EDT is GMT -4 -- your post was at 3:26 and I'm making this one at approximately 6:00 PM. Is that what you see?
Yes. That's what I see. What have I done to make this happen?

[Mike Sullivan]

Nothing, because it's correct.

EDT = GMT -4
EST = GMT -5

GMT doesn't change for daylight savings.

[Littlebit]

Nothing, because it's correct.

EDT = GMT -4
EST = GMT -5

GMT doesn't change for daylight savings.
I didn't know that http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/images/smilies/redface.gif
Thanks Mike for my little education class on GMT http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/images/smilies/redface.gif

[Mike Sullivan]

Trust me, I would parade around if we got rid of DST. :)

[Littlebit]

I can understand thishttp://www.vbulletin.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif

[Thunderpuck]

I don't understand how this is resolved??? I have this problem, when i set my user cp to my time zone, it is off by 3:30, which is the time offset i setup in the admin cp, but that's apparently not working. I'm on vb3 beta 7. I also just noticed on these forums that the time is incorrect at the bottom of this forum page here, but when i went into my user cp, on the options tab the time at the bottom is correct... Something is definitely out of whack somewhere...

[ChuanSE]

I have to agree. Here the time is 11:30am atm.
I click the cpanel button and the time is 10:30am (the correct time according to my timezone)
just FYI

[alkahf]

Hello
I can think what the problem.
The problem is vBulletin team think that all servers in the world take GMT times in config but that is not right.
For example I have my own server in Moscow and its time by Moscow's time...
so this is the problem that I think.

thank you

[Thunderpuck]

Ok I have the time problem resolved for the most part, but it still shows different times on the different pages... is one place not accounting for DST or something?