vBulletin 2.3.0 Final Released - Discuss

[Kier]

Discuss away!

[JulianD]

Finally.... :) Going to get it right now.

[YCrowley]

n1, pld team :)

[TripleH]

Yaay! Nice work!!!:)

[Marco]

Woo hoo... upgraded :)

[fury]

Hopefully the final vBulletin 2.x... *knock on wood*

Damn, spoke too soon, it's jinxed now. vBulletin 2.3.1.7394.39058.2592589521.26.34948216.3419815491 35.53914281369.13414 release candidate 1958 here we come. :rolleyes:

:D

[Brian Briscoe]

Great, thanks Kier ;)

[CeleronXT]

How about posting a list of all of the files/templates changed from 2.2.9 to 2.3.0, instead of making us look through RC1, RC2, RC3, and the final?

[Brian Briscoe]

Cause Kier has better things to do, like working on vBulletin 3 ;)

[CeleronXT]

I didn't ask why, I told them to do it. :o ;)

[SiXXGuNNZ]

anybody else upgrade yet?

and if so is the image verification working for your board?

mine worked before the upgrade :\

[Reverend]

I'm currently running RC3 with several hacks installed.
Will the upgrade work if i just upload the "changed" files and run the upgrade23.php script.Or do i still have to upload all the 2.3.0 final files then run the script?

[Onji]

I read where if the RC3 was stable, you were going to change the status to Final or Stable. Was the RC3 the final, or does this one have a few more fixes?

[Andrew-ningc]

grr... No longer have the vb 2.3 rc3 files, so can't use beyond compair to update.

Is the RC3 files still available from the members area?

[nawialkair]

I will upgrade after I finish translating it to Aabic.

[nuno]

Is the RC3 files still available from the members area?
No.

[HostCom]

Why doesn't the Vbulletin team make a list of available downloads for all the versions? So we can mess around with them and stuff on Testing servers?

Or if we wish to redownload a older version we like? :|

[Brian Briscoe]

Why doesn't the Vbulletin team make a list of available downloads for all the versions? So we can mess around with them and stuff on Testing servers?

Or if we wish to redownload a older version we like? :|
Because they do not support older versions, and tons of people would come here with bugs, and need support for the older versions.

Basically it would be too hard for the to handle all of it.

[HostCom]

Well then have them put in bold text and caps says WE DO NOT PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR OLDER VERSIONS


;)

[fury]

Sadly, disclaimers even in capital letters are often ignored.

[HostCom]

True. Banz0r them if they dont read ;)

[fury]

I don't think banning 90% of the customer base would be very nice of Jelsoft now, would it? ;)

[Brian Briscoe]

I don't think banning 90% of the customer base would be very nice of Jelsoft now, would it? ;)
Exactly, it wouldnt ;)

[Gary King]

Going to upgrade ASAP :D

[Floris]

http://www.vBulletin.nl/ upgrade went perfect, no glitch and done in no time. We are now running 2.3.0 final. Whoei!

Our next upgrade is 3.0.0's public beta :)

[nuno]

http://www.vBulletin.nl/ upgrade went perfect, no glitch and done in no time. We are now running 2.3.0 final. Whoei!

Our next upgrade is 3.0.0's public beta :)
What?
No upgrade to your Sig? ;)

[Floris]

I do not understand you.

[nuno]

ygpm.

[DVD Plaza]

Am I missing something, or does the upgrade consist of procedures contained in 4 seperate posts within 2 different threads? :confused:

[vBR]

Am I missing something, or does the upgrade consist of procedures contained in 4 seperate posts within 2 different threads? :confused:

No, you are not missing anything (unless I am too).

[nuno]

Kier's instructions are pretty straightforward:


Installation / Upgrade Instructions
These are available in the Members Area (http://www.vbulletin.com/members/upgrade.html).
If you have already upgraded to vB 2.3.0 RC1, RC2 or RC3 you will need to run upgrade23.php again, clicking the link that allows you to continue past the message telling you that you are already running vB 2.3.0.

And I'm no Einstein either.....

[snyx]

would it be safe to say this is the last until a vB3 release candidate?

[Cary]

Yes... but there are no guarantees.

From the annoucement:


We hope that this will be the outing for the vBulletin 2 series, allowing us to dedicate our full resources to the forthcoming vBulletin 3 public beta.

[DVD Plaza]

Kier's instructions are pretty straightforward... And I'm no Einstein either.....I must've misunderstood, I thought the four posts mentioned there were a sh#tload of template changes to make?!

[Floris]

ygpm.
Yeah, the previous signature hint was when private beta started, ~3d :D etc countdown.
Now I had aprilfirst highlighted :P
No tricking you eyh ?

[Paul]

We're awaiting the e-mail notification Jelsoft sends out for new versions. Made the mistake of not waiting the last time and found out that Jelsoft may change files without notifying anyone. The rationale at the time was that the e-mail hadn't gone out yet so it was okay.

[Russell]

All installed and running fine here :)

Just thought I'de let people know... because.. well, people like to know!

[Erwin]

Thanks. Upgraded from RC3 in 10 minutes. Good job! :)

[Scott MacVicar]

http://www.vbulletin.com/members/changelog.html

lists the bugs that were fixed.

[Shr3d]

installed in one minute :) thanks!

[feldon23]

grr... No longer have the vb 2.3 rc3 files, so can't use beyond compair to update.

Is the RC3 files still available from the members area?

I tried to ask about this in another thread and got flamed/bombed back to the Stone Age, accused of pirating vB2.3.0 and giving it away to other people.

"Touchy" doesn't describe it accurately. :(

[Marco]

grr... No longer have the vb 2.3 rc3 files, so can't use beyond compair to update.

Is the RC3 files still available from the members area?
The changed files are listed in the post in the Announcements forum. (BC lists exactly the same files as changed)

[feldon23]

Improvements/Fixes since 2.2.9 (just the bigger ones; too many to list) New image-based verification system to deal with the spam bot registration issue New version checking system in Admin CP to detect when vBulletin 3 is available Clicking on clickable smilies no longer stops animated GIF files animating One of the biggest changes for vBulletin 2.3.0 is that all calls to PHP's mail() function are now routed via a central vbmail() function in functions.php. This was done so that people with non-standard server setups can easily modify the way email is sent from their vBulletin installation. We have also corrected a small bug that would assign all users to usergroupid=2 (registered users) after they changed their email address regardless of their original usergroup. Image verification works in versions of GD other than 2.x (RC2) Many template/registration/access bugs fixed.
Template Changes (from 2.2.9) forumdisplaybit - added s=$session[sessionhash] to member.php links searchresultbit_threadonly - added s=$session[sessionhash] to member.php links subscribe_threadbit - added s=$session[sessionhash] to member.php links username_loggedout - added s=$session[sessionhash] to member.php links faq3 - removed width/height from edit.gif <img> tag standarderror - removed $bburl from vb_bullet.gif image path showgroups - removed moderators table (now uses showgroups_group template instead) showgroups_bit - extended so it can be used for standard usergroups AND moderators showgroups_group - extended so it can be used for standard usergroups AND moderators editpost_attachment - replaced attachmentid with postid mailform - added <input type="hidden" name="url" value="$url"> vbcode_smiliebit - Prevent smilie animation stopping on click vbcode_popup_smiliesbits - Prevent smilie animation stopping on click registeradult - Added field for image verification ($imageregbit) registercoppa - Added field for image verification ($imageregbit) modifyoptions_stylecell - addition of default forum styleNew Templates (from 2.2.9) showgroups_moderatedforums - used to allow showgroups_bit to be used for ALL groups showgroups_forumheader - used to allow showgroups_group to be used for ALL groups showthread_pollresults_cantvote - used to notify member that they can not vote on a poll showthread_pollresults_cantvote - Alert about no permission to vote on poll register_imagebit - Image verification systemRemoved Templates (from 2.2.9) showgroups_adminbit - no longer required (functionality provided by showgroups_bit)Files Changed Since vB2.2.9 Main Directory: attachment.php, avatar.php, calendar.php, editpost.php, member.php, member2.php, memberlist.php, misc.php, newreply.php, newthread.php, online.php, postings.php, private.php, private2.php, register.php, report.php, search.php, sendtofriend.php, showgroups.php, showthread.php Admin Directory: admin/email.php, admin/functions.php, admin/global.php, admin/index.php, admin/misc.php, admin/template.php, admin/user.php, admin/vbulletin.style Mod Directory: mod/moderate.php And the usuals (all for just the version number): admin/upgrade1.php, admin/install.phpNew Files Since vB2.2.9 Main Directory: regimage.phpIf you have already upgraded to vB 2.3.0 RC1, RC2 or RC3 you will need to run upgrade23.php again, clicking the link that allows you to continue past the message telling you that you are already running vB 2.3.0.

[Rasbelin]

I'm going to update both forums later tonight. :)

[Andrew-ningc]

The changed files are listed in the post in the Announcements forum. (BC lists exactly the same files as changed)
Yeah, but i don't have the copy of the 2.3.0 rc3 files to compire them agenst. My bored is hacked.

I have sorted it though, nearly all the files stated were either not modified or just slightly.

[zaon]

If we had installed RC3 on March 13th, has the final release changed since then?

I know it says to run the upgrade script again for all RCs, but RC3 existed in several versions including some that dated clear back to mid February.

I was just curious since the 3/13 version of 2.3.0 RC3 seems to be running quite well if there was anything serious (if any) changed since then in this final version.

Thanks!

[feldon23]

The changed files are listed in the post in the Announcements forum. (BC lists exactly the same files as changed)

We need an Archive of vB builds so we can use Beyond Compare to get a line-by-line changelog.

Which sounds better:

Option A: Completely replace a heavily hacked board with vB 2.3.0 final and then re-hack it. Approx 6 hours.

Option B: Upgrade hacked board "in-place" from vB 2.3.0RC3 to vB 2.3.0 final by making the same changes to OUR files that the developers did. Approx 15 min.

Guess this thread is going to get closed too.

[feldon23]

If we had installed RC3 on March 13th, has the final release changed since then?

I know it says to run the upgrade script again for all RCs, but RC3 existed in several versions including some that dated clear back to mid February.

I was just curious since the 3/13 version of 2.3.0 RC3 seems to be running quite well if there was anything serious (if any) changed since then in this final version.

Thanks! It states pretty clearly that there are changes from vB2.3.0 RC3 to vb2.3.0 final.

Use Beyond Compare to compare virgin versions of either.

f:\vbulletin\vb2.3.0RC3\
f:\vbulletin\vb2.3.0final\
f:\vbulletin\vb_currentversion\

:)

[snyx]

sweet, so I guess we wait.

[Marco]

I doubt you'll ever see an archive of old vB versions. The last thing Jelsoft would want is to offer people the opportunity to install old, buggy code. I don't think expecting Jelsoft to go through a lot of trouble for people who have modified their boards is fair, either. The current system (have the latest stable releae in the members area) works fine for most customers, as they do not have "heavily modified" boards. They just have to upload the new files, run the upgrade script and be done with it. And besides, this wouldn't be an issue if you had just saved the RC3 ZIP. YOU decided to modify your code to an extent where upgrading becomes a painful process, so IMO it shouldn't be up to Jelsoft to help you upgrade more easily. Hell, they're already doing a great job at listing changed files and version notes... I don't think it's fair to expect Jelsoft to put even more time into making it very easy for code hackers to upgrade their forums. You're adding these hacks at your own risk anyway. :)

[zaon]

My March 13th RC3 .zip is 522 kb (Windows) and the new 2.3.0 final is 523 kb... so not sure if that really means anything...

Of course, templates/files could have characters or strings changed that are roughly the same length and save out to the same size files despite being very different.

Don't have 'beyond compare' tho.

[Stud_Muffin]

I for 1 would like to know what files and templates have changed from 2.3.0 RC3 to 2.3.0 Final. and how to do it manually. Pls :D

[feldon23]

I for 1 would like to know what files and templates have changed from 2.3.0 RC3 to 2.3.0 Final. and how to do it manually. Pls :D

Try the official upgrade thread here:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=68653

[CeleronXT]

Improvements/Fixes since 2.2.9 (just the bigger ones; too many to list) New image-based verification system to deal with the spam bot registration issue New version checking system in Admin CP to detect when vBulletin 3 is available Clicking on clickable smilies no longer stops animated GIF files animating One of the biggest changes for vBulletin 2.3.0 is that all calls to PHP's mail() function are now routed via a central vbmail() function in functions.php. This was done so that people with non-standard server setups can easily modify the way email is sent from their vBulletin installation. We have also corrected a small bug that would assign all users to usergroupid=2 (registered users) after they changed their email address regardless of their original usergroup. Image verification works in versions of GD other than 2.x (RC2) Many template/registration/access bugs fixed.
Template Changes (from 2.2.9) forumdisplaybit - added s=$session[sessionhash] to member.php links searchresultbit_threadonly - added s=$session[sessionhash] to member.php links subscribe_threadbit - added s=$session[sessionhash] to member.php links username_loggedout - added s=$session[sessionhash] to member.php links faq3 - removed width/height from edit.gif <img> tag standarderror - removed $bburl from vb_bullet.gif image path showgroups - removed moderators table (now uses showgroups_group template instead) showgroups_bit - extended so it can be used for standard usergroups AND moderators showgroups_group - extended so it can be used for standard usergroups AND moderators editpost_attachment - replaced attachmentid with postid mailform - added <input type="hidden" name="url" value="$url"> vbcode_smiliebit - Prevent smilie animation stopping on click vbcode_popup_smiliesbits - Prevent smilie animation stopping on click registeradult - Added field for image verification ($imageregbit) registercoppa - Added field for image verification ($imageregbit) modifyoptions_stylecell - addition of default forum styleNew Templates (from 2.2.9) showgroups_moderatedforums - used to allow showgroups_bit to be used for ALL groups showgroups_forumheader - used to allow showgroups_group to be used for ALL groups showthread_pollresults_cantvote - used to notify member that they can not vote on a poll showthread_pollresults_cantvote - Alert about no permission to vote on poll register_imagebit - Image verification systemRemoved Templates (from 2.2.9) showgroups_adminbit - no longer required (functionality provided by showgroups_bit)Files Changed Since vB2.2.9 Main Directory: attachment.php, avatar.php, calendar.php, editpost.php, member.php, member2.php, memberlist.php, misc.php, newreply.php, newthread.php, online.php, postings.php, private.php, private2.php, register.php, report.php, search.php, sendtofriend.php, showgroups.php, showthread.php Admin Directory: admin/email.php, admin/functions.php, admin/global.php, admin/index.php, admin/misc.php, admin/template.php, admin/user.php, admin/vbulletin.style Mod Directory: mod/moderate.php And the usuals (all for just the version number): admin/upgrade1.php, admin/install.phpNew Files Since vB2.2.9 Main Directory: regimage.phpIf you have already upgraded to vB 2.3.0 RC1, RC2 or RC3 you will need to run upgrade23.php again, clicking the link that allows you to continue past the message telling you that you are already running vB 2.3.0.
Is that vB 2.2.9 --> vB2.3.0 Final, or to one of the other RC's? O_o

[Reverend]

I'm currently running RC3 with several hacks installed.
Will the upgrade work if i just upload the "changed" files and run the upgrade23.php script.Or do i still have to upload all the 2.3.0 final files then run the script?
Can someone confirm that the above upgrade procedure will work.(just upload the "changed" files and run the upgrade23.php script).

[Cary]

Can someone confirm that the above upgrade procedure will work.(just upload the "changed" files and run the upgrade23.php script).
That will work... just make sure you upload all of the changed files.

[Reverend]

That will work... just make sure you upload all of the changed files.

Thanks Cary.

[SWFans.net]

Nice! :)

Installs

[feldon23]

Is that vB 2.2.9 --> vB2.3.0 Final, or to one of the other RC's? O_o

This is vB 2.2.9 -> vB2.3.0 Final, as requested by a few other members earlier in this thread.

[CeleronXT]

Oh really, thank you very much then, that was a much needed list. :) I just wanted to be positive on which versions it pertained to.. :)

[feldon23]

Actually I hope someone's looking to make sure I didn't miss anything. I THINK I got everything. The new WYSISWYG editor is... interesting. I realize the vB folks can't do much to improve Microsoft's behavior. :(

[TObject]

Is the download file supposed to be named vbulletin.zip instead of vbulletin230.zip, or is there some kind of new security feature that conflicts with my firewall?

[Paul]

The file I downloaded was called vbulletin.zip. I agree. This is going to cause confusion in the long run. Perhaps they could throw in a version.txt file or something at the very least to help distinguish what version we're dealing with.

[Zelda-King]

I'm currently running RC3 with several hacks installed.
Will the upgrade work if i just upload the "changed" files and run the upgrade23.php script.Or do i still have to upload all the 2.3.0 final files then run the script? If you're wanting to upgrade hacked boards there's a good tutorial here (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38545) at vbulletin.org. Simply put, you should use a file/folder comparing program, have your old vB and new vB in seperate folders, run the program and it'll show you all the changes. Then you can skip all unchanged files. Quite easy.

To answer your question, the upgrade script will run just fine if you do that.

[Reverend]

If you're wanting to upgrade hacked boards there's a good tutorial here (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38545) at vbulletin.org. Simply put, you should use a file/folder comparing program, have your old vB and new vB in seperate folders, run the program and it'll show you all the changes. Then you can skip all unchanged files. Quite easy.

To answer your question, the upgrade script will run just fine if you do that.

Thanks Zelda
I do use Beyond Compare,but on this occassion i wanted to shorten the upgrade time by just comparing and uploading the files that were changed from RC3 to the Final release. (this is much quicker and easier than comparing every file and copying over the hacks to the newer files) ;)

[Wayne Luke]

The file I downloaded was called vbulletin.zip. I agree. This is going to cause confusion in the long run. Perhaps they could throw in a version.txt file or something at the very least to help distinguish what version we're dealing with.
When you extract the file it should give you a directory named XXXXXXXXXX.230 where XXXXXXXXXX is your license number.

Should be fairly easy to determine which folder belongs to what license and what version it is.

[feldon23]

Thanks Zelda
I do use Beyond Compare,but on this occassion i wanted to shorten the upgrade time by just comparing and uploading the files that were changed from RC3 to the Final release. (this is much quicker and easier than comparing every file and copying over the hacks to the newer files) ;)

This is an excellent point, and one I raised in the other thread. With a heavily hacked board, comparing a virgin vB2.3.0 to your hacked vb2.2.9 is much less useful than comparing a virgin vB2.3.0 to a virgin vB2.2.9 and making the same bugfixes/improvements the developers did.

[Zelda-King]

Nevertheless, if one is competant it shouldn't take over 30 minutes in any case. Naturally it would be more ideal to do it your way, but then I'd be fiddling with three versions instead of two. As for comparing every file you don't have to give the vast majority of files a second glance as long as no changes are revealed. The comparison only takes seconds for Araxis Merge (which I use) to make.

[Reverend]

As for comparing every file you don't have to give the vast majority of files a second glance as long as no changes are revealed.

That is my point exactly.
It's quicker and easier to just compare the "changed" files from each version and copy over the hacked code to the new ones,then just upload them and run the upgrade,rather than going through every file that you know has not been changed.
Saves a lot of time and is less hassle.
Just my opinion. ;)

[Zelda-King]

Well, my way is to have both versions of vBulletin in different folders, run the comparison and upload any changed files before running the upgrade. That's what I meant. Perhaps I didn't make that clear (though the thread I gave a link to does). I do it the other way though. I put the new codes in the old files considering in my case, I probably have more lines of hack than there are lines of debugging and improvements in a new vBulletin.

[Classy]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this but
I am a new customer and when I download the
2.3.0 php board I get a corrupt file. The file size is 0.
I've tried it several time's having the same results.
Can someone please help. Thank you.

update: ive contacted customer support. :D

[HostCom]

Is there a Archive of older versions of Vbulletin? Really wanna see what it was like back then and mess around with them on my testing server. :(

[Wayne Luke]

Is there a Archive of older versions of Vbulletin? Really wanna see what it was like back then and mess around with them on my testing server. :(
We do not make older versions of the software available due to possible security risks they could create on our customers servers. It would be irresponsible of us to distribute software with known problems and possibly compromise sensitive data.

In order to limit this, we have a current version release policy and do not maintain downloadable archives of old versions.

[Classy]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this but
I am a new customer and when I download the
2.3.0 php board I get a corrupt file. The file size is 0.
I've tried it several time's having the same results.
Can someone please help. Thank you.

update: ive contacted customer support. :D

Is anyone else having this problem? I'm excited
about getting this going but can't do nothing
without a good download :(

[Steve Machol]

This is a problem caused by some firewall software. Temporarily disable any firewall software prior to accessing the Members Area. Then try the download again.

[Classy]

This is a problem caused by some firewall software. Temporarily disable any firewall software prior to accessing the Members Area. Then try the download again.

Yep did that, even cleared my cookies .. still no go.
Never had this prob. before anywhere else.
I'll keep trying. Thank you for your time.

[Steve Machol]

Cooies would have nothing to do with this. 100% of the time when this has been reported it's been a firewall issue.

Fill out a support ticket at:

http://www.vbulletin.com/members/support_form.php

[Classy]

Cooies would have nothing to do with this. 100% of the time when this has been reported it's been a firewall issue.

Fill out a support ticket at:

http://www.vbulletin.com/members/support_form.php

Problem solved, had to disable more than firewall. Had to disable everything that's included in the firewall. Thank you for your time.
---Problem Solved---

[Joe Gronlund]

when downloading from members area, it doesnt have a ver number on it.
eg: vbulletin_2.3.0.zip
Its just named vbulletin, not sure if this is known or not, just thought i would point it out

[filburt1]

It should extract to a directory similar to your license number.230, though.

[rebby]

We need an Archive of vB builds so we can use Beyond Compare to get a line-by-line changelog.

Which sounds better:

Option A: Completely replace a heavily hacked board with vB 2.3.0 final and then re-hack it. Approx 6 hours.

Option B: Upgrade hacked board "in-place" from vB 2.3.0RC3 to vB 2.3.0 final by making the same changes to OUR files that the developers did. Approx 15 min.

Guess this thread is going to get closed too.
Speaking of archive for vB builds... I keep all copies of vB that I download in a CVS tree. Then for my hacks I just do branches and merges. I've never used "beyond compare" but from my experience w/CVS I would guess that BC is not near as powerful as CVS. I highly suggest that anybody w/a heavily modded board (or anybody who is just interested in the actual code changes from version to version) check out CVS (http://cvshome.org). There are several CGI/PHP/Python/etc web utilities to "webalize" your cvsroot too... Very very useful... I use CVS for nearly everything I do, not just vB.

[TripleH]

Thats what I got...

[carpman]

Speaking of archive for vB builds... I keep all copies of vB that I download in a CVS tree. Then for my hacks I just do branches and merges. I've never used "beyond compare" but from my experience w/CVS I would guess that BC is not near as powerful as CVS. I highly suggest that anybody w/a heavily modded board (or anybody who is just interested in the actual code changes from version to version) check out CVS (http://cvshome.org). There are several CGI/PHP/Python/etc web utilities to "webalize" your cvsroot too... Very very useful... I use CVS for nearly everything I do, not just vB.


have to say that a bit of a howto on acheiving this would be very very helpful :)

[feldon23]

osCommerce is why I don't think much of CVS. Maybe I shouldn't let their approach to releasing products (there is no such thing as a feature complete, bug free build -- they haven't had one... EVER) taint my view of CVS.

I use BeyondCompare. People seem to also be recommending Araxis Merge.

[Splitfyre]

Is it really worth updating to vBulletin 2.30? The reason being is that I am on 2.28 and we have several hacks that we've implemented. We don't want to have to go through another update till vB3.0 but I am curious as to if we'll be just wasting our time.

[feldon23]

Please read the release notes which lay out the changes/updates.

IMO, The most significant changes in vB2.3.0 are:

-Image Verification system - New registrants are now shown a fuzzy picture with 6 letters/numbers on it and must type them correctly to register. This keeps out the recent sex/porn spam bots that have been written to exploit vBulletin.

If you have not had any of these nuisance registrations, then you can probably put off this update for now.

-Unified e-mail header/handling - Because of some changes in the way servers send and receive e-mail and attach headers, this addition was needed. You now change, in one file, all the settings for how mail goes out if your web host is one of the ones that has gone this route.

If you are having 0 problems sending e-mail from your forum, don't worry about this.


Keeping up to date on vBulletin even if you have some hacks installed is not as hard as you might think. Depending on your situation, this might be a faster method:

Download Beyond Compare or Alexis Merge and compare a vanilla copy of 2.2.8 to your hacked 2.2.8. Then apply the same changes to a fresh copy of vB2.3.0. ALWAYS make a backup of your database before playing with hacks and/or upgrading your forum (hacked or otherwise!).


Also, please note that the vBulletin 3 upgrade script, from all accounts, will expect a vB2.2.9 or vB2.3.0 forum to upgrade. You might have problems upgrading vB2.2.8 -> vB3. Again, you don't need to panic just yet. I'm guessing June for vB3.

[Rick Horwitz]

Also, please note that the vBulletin 3 upgrade script, from all accounts, will expect a vB2.2.9 or vB2.3.0 forum to upgrade. You might have problems upgrading vB2.2.8 -> vB3. Again, you don't need to panic just yet. I'm guessing June for vB3.

Figures, just another way to string us along:rolleyes:

[Chen]

Figures, just another way to string us along:rolleyes:
I'm not sure why that bothers you. If your access to downloads expires, you will only have to renew when vB3 is released. At that time both versions, 2.3.0 and 3.0.x will be available to download.

[scri]

Please read the release notes which lay out the changes/updates.

IMO, The most significant changes in vB2.3.0 are:

-Image Verification system - New registrants are now shown a fuzzy picture with 6 letters/numbers on it and must type them correctly to register. This keeps out the recent sex/porn spam bots that have been written to exploit vBulletin.



Hi, hope this doesnt sound stupid but i dont seem to have the image verification system operating on my forums which are version 2.3.0. Is this an upgrade which was released after 2.3.0 came out or is there a way to turn this on in the vBulletin control panel?

thanks

[scri]

Hi, hope this doesnt sound stupid but i dont seem to have the image verification system operating on my forums which are version 2.3.0. Is this an upgrade which was released after 2.3.0 came out or is there a way to turn this on in the vBulletin control panel?

thanks


i found it. Forgot to set the GD version in the options section, working now :) thats a relief.

[Wayne Luke]

It was included in the 2.3.0 "Gold" Release but not in earlier release candidates.

You have to turn this on in your Admin Control Panel under the General Options.

[Rick Horwitz]

I'm not sure why that bothers you. If your access to downloads expires, you will only have to renew when vB3 is released. At that time both versions, 2.3.0 and 3.0.x will be available to download.

Everything about the V3 release bothers me. My board has also been on hold as far as trying new things for months now (at least 6 months). I keep telling everyone, don't worry that feature will be in the next version, then I make a bug release update and they're like, "was that it, is this the new software". No, sorry still the old stuff, they keep saying the new software will be out soon. Geez if I tried to pull what the VB developers did and claim that 2.3 was a new version since it added one new obscure feature I would probably have been lynched by now. I guess they just didn't want to go to V2.2.9.9.9.9

[scri]

Everything about the V3 release bothers me. My board has also been on hold as far as trying new things for months now. I keep telling everyone, don't worry that feature will be in the next version, then I make a bug release update and they're like, "was that it, is this the new software". No, sorry still the old stuff, they keep saying the new software will be out soon. Geez if I tried to pull what the VB developers did and claim that 2.3 was a new version since it added one new obscure feature I would probably have been lynched by now. I guess they just didn't want to go to V2.2.9.9.9.9


I seriously doubt the validity of your argument. Time and time again, the development team say they cant give a firm release date. So, you know this. Why then do you need to tell your board users repeatedly that the next version of the software will meet their needs and then venting their anxiousness on the vB developers?

I'm as keen as anyone when it comes to wanting the new version, but i'm not going to express narrow mindedness by practically badgering the staff to release something when it is simply not ready to be released. Not only will you be doing yourself an injustice, but every other subscriber too. You'll also be doing the vB developers an injustice by undermining the importance of their work.

So, i suggest you tell your board users the situation and to remain calm. If you're subscription period runs out before the new software is released, then thats just life. Life isnt fair, and in no way are the makers of vB responsible for that. Its like when a magazine subscription runs out and the next issue has a free goodie in it. Are you going to demand to get that free because it arrived outwith your subscription period? You've got to be having a laugh aint ya?

Being a developer myself, in a similar position to the good people that bring us an industry market leading piece of software, i know the pressure these people are under and the last thing they need is people like yourself giving them a hard time.

I look forward to your reply.

PS. your attitude brings to light the reason SUV drivers have the reputations they have ;) MINI forever.

[Rick Horwitz]

First to the VB developers. How is this a "quick reply" if I have to click somewhere else to activate it????

Now for scri, you've been here for 2 months, I've been here for 3 years. I think I know a bit more about the V3 release than you. We were practically promised a Beta release for last Christmas. THAT was the date I was basing my projections on.

I have 16,000 members on my site with 20-30 new members joining every day. I have a "special" program for "Elite" members where they get extra features for their contribution to the site. In order to make that work as effectively as possible I need to be able to give different features to different users groups.

I suggested that feature back in the V1 days and was told it would be out in V2. It wasn't. Then there was a hack developed to implement that. To me it's not an easy hack, and I find it VERY frustrating to have to rehack wiith every version update. Besides that working with the current template system to me is an excercise in frustration since I have never seen a decent explanation of how to truly customize the site easily with the templates.

V3 has most of the features I want already intergrated into the factory software.

Example. On my site only "Elite" members can have avatars. Currently I have to add and update all the avatars for the paying members since I cannot set the board to globally allow users to add avatars. That's a PITA and takes up my time. I want my board to provide to seperate experiences, one for the "Elites" and one for the regular registered members. And I don't want to have to hack this in. I've been waiting since 2000 for this feature. And I've been waiting for V3 since December when I was expecting it to become available.

Ever wonder why there is hardly anyone on this site anymore?? There used to be way more people online at any given time. The reason? The folks who used to hang around here have gotten sick of waiting and left.

[scri]

i have been on this board for 2 months under this alias. i have 2 accounts, an employers and a personal account. I have 5 years professional web development experience and 15 years freelance. Its just as well you said 'i think' because you obviously don't know.

We can argue about our stats all we want, but i can guarantee i can more than match you.

I've skimmed over your reply so i wont bother replying to individual points, as most are irrelevant.

The features you speak off are mods, if you want em you wait for the official release containing these features, if you dont, you hack em yourself.

Logician created a hack on the vbulletin.org site which does the avatar thing for you in less than 10 lines of code, not specificaly, but its a feature it makes available to you by doing the following.... it allows if conditional statements to be coded into templates, you can use this to create a conditional statement to see if the user meets the requirements before they get an avatar, and the same with any other special privelages you seek for your 'elite' members. The instructions are very simplistic and yet efficient, i suggest you sign up there and seek this hack. I did and use this hack on my personal forum.

As far as promises are concerned, no such thing exists in software development, and you should know this.

PS. if you know of exporters of Hummers to the UK, let me know ;)

[Rick Horwitz]

The features you speak off are mods, if you want em you wait for the official release containing these features, if you dont, you hack em yourself.

As I said, but you probably skimmed over or found it irrevelant. The VB developers said they would implement what I asked for in the original release of V2. V2 was such a drastic improvement over V1 I didn't complain. Now, it's time to complain... we're 5 months beyond the projected Beta release date! :mad:

Can you tell me the name of the hack? I'll do a search there by username to see if I can find it. BTW, I've been a member of vb.org since it started and was a member of the other vb hack site before that. I hate having to rehack though. Until my board is actually making me money I don't like spending hours messing with it. It's tough enough moderating 25 moderators and 16,000 members.
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[scri]

As I said, but you probably skimmed over or found it irrevelant. The VB developers said they would implement what I asked for in the original release of V2. V2 was such a drastic improvement over V1 I didn't complain. Now, it's time to complain... we're 5 months beyond the projected Beta release date! :mad:

Can you tell me the name of the hack? I'll do a search there by username to see if I can find it. BTW, I've been a member of vb.org since it started and was a member of the other vb hack site before that. I hate having to rehack though. Until my board is actually making me money I don't like spending hours messing with it. It's tough enough moderating 25 moderators and 16,000 members.
[/QUOTE]

I understand. i'll leave it at that cos i dont want to get into a personal situation because thats not what either of us want.

The name of the hack is Dynamic Templates Hack by Logician. if you search vbulletin.org for that you should get it :)
infact search for that exact string 'Dynamic Templates Hack by Logician' and it appears top of the list. In a forum of your size i'm sure you'll find it extremely useful.

KJ

[rick barclay]

I think Rick Horowitz has a valid point about the Quick Reply box.

What is the logic behind having someone click a button in order to
make a quick reply when we already have a hack installed that allows
one to Quick Reply without that needless click? Seems a step backwards
to me, and I'm sure my modem users will complain about it when I
install version 3.0.

I respectfully think the developers should concentrate more on keeping
the program simple to use and more secure against hackers and less
on bells and whistles that can be added subjectively later via hacks by forum admins. I mean, why would I or should I want to have to click
a button to do something I can do perfectly well now without clicking?
Sorry, makes no sense to me.

[Cary]

As it has been said before, you can disable the click before the quick reply, but it'll basicly defeat the purpose of threaded and hybrid mode...

From The Admin CP:

Require Click for Quick Reply

If you set this option to 'no', users will not have to click the Quick Reply icon in order to type a message in the quick reply box.

However, this will be at the expense of the usefulness of the Threaded and Hybrid view modes, as the system will not know to which post a user is replying, so the threaded view will become non-sensical.

Set this option to 'no' at your own discretion.

[Erwin]

Thanks Cary for clearing that up. :)

[phill2003]

@scri re post 93

here here my sentiments exactly.......

the way I see it is vb3 is in development so bugs will be found,, maybe more bugs have been found than was bargained for, I don't know but to expect jelsoft to put out a less than impressive flagship message board would do more harm to them than waiting for a while till its as near ready as it ever will be.......

mind I waited for the Humber bridge to be opened in 1974 and that was behind schedule I think it opened about 1984 or something :) so it could be worse and we have to wait a decade for it but I doubt it :)

[slinky]

@scri re post 93

here here my sentiments exactly.......

the way I see it is vb3 is in development so bugs will be found,, maybe more bugs have been found than was bargained for, I don't know but to expect jelsoft to put out a less than impressive flagship message board would do more harm to them than waiting for a while till its as near ready as it ever will be.......


I've found that virtually all my users and elsewhere just want something nice to look at and simple to use. All the bells and whistels and options in vb3 are nothing but bloat to satisfy all the people who want to feel good about how many options they have. Most important is to have better performance (most important), improved code and easy templating. The rest is unnecessary and becoming bloatware.

Personally I find threading unnecessary although I can understand that. But as far as the other stuff... the quick reply box that requires another press to activate definitely is the quintessential example of losing perspective. I can just as easily click "reply" and bedone with it.

Some hacks should be built in for the UI. The flashing or more obvious personal messages indicator. Quick reply is an excellent option and popular. A few could be installed, but that's it. Extra backend admin features are excellent... but exactly how much are most of our users really missing?

Please... this is ridiculous and only makes me think that the next version will be bloated, slow and worse... confusing. Less is far more.

[heretic]

I have to agree, when I first get v3, I'll spend a few days just removing the clutter. But then again, different people want different features.

[idiotboy]

I've found that virtually all my users and elsewhere just want something nice to look at and simple to use. All the bells and whistels and options in vb3 are nothing but bloat to satisfy all the people who want to feel good about how many options they have. Most important is to have better performance (most important), improved code and easy templating. The rest is unnecessary and becoming bloatware.


When I used to run UBB it was simple to use and relatively basic, but my visitors and member sign ups significantly improved once switching to vbulletin. I wish it was my content, but I can honestly say that people saw the board I was using and thought it was much better than UBB due to all it's bells and whistles.

[Pilot]

In my years of experience with new software products - the following is always true.

Phase 1 - it does not work properly
Phase 2 - it works but has performance issues
Phase 3 - it works properly at last

So not only do we need to wait for VB3, but in fact wait for it to reach Phase 3. No amount of beta testing can prevent this cycle.

[scri]

When I used to run UBB it was simple to use and relatively basic, but my visitors and member sign ups significantly improved once switching to vbulletin. I wish it was my content, but I can honestly say that people saw the board I was using and thought it was much better than UBB due to all it's bells and whistles.

Yeah, i went from ubb to vbulletin and the speed increased dramatically. The learning curve was bigger and steeper, but now my users are saying that i made the right decision switching software. vBulletin attracts visitors because they know its a quality product. It even looks quality.

[Chen]

In my years of experience with new software products - the following is always true.

Phase 1 - it does not work properly
Phase 2 - it works but has performance issues
Phase 3 - it works properly at last

So not only do we need to wait for VB3, but in fact wait for it to reach Phase 3. No amount of beta testing can prevent this cycle.
vB3 is definitely beyond the "not working properly" phase, and it has been for quite some time. Don't forget that's it's actually running on this very website, and we would never use something that is severly broken for our own forums. Because of the relatively long period of private beta testing the public beta phase will be much shorter compared to vB2's.

[MJM]

I have to agree, when I first get v3, I'll spend a few days just removing the clutter

I am dreading this day.
I hope that vB has made simplification of the board easy.

[Pilot]

Of course beta testing is important but nothing can replace letting the world at large get hold of it. The sheer number of different environments and types of use will test the code in permutations that could not be foreseen, so it's important to get it out there without undue delay.

There will be a new cycle of fix and optimise needed whenever the user base is significantly greater and more diverse.

[slinky]

When I used to run UBB it was simple to use and relatively basic, but my visitors and member sign ups significantly improved once switching to vbulletin. I wish it was my content, but I can honestly say that people saw the board I was using and thought it was much better than UBB due to all it's bells and whistles.
Bells and whistles? Perhaps it was a combination of improved layout and good, basic features demanded by most. VB was easy to use as version 2 and is pretty simple to understand, although the true UI issues were, for example:

1) Not easy to find out how to register unless you hacked the code to make it a little more obvious (login was on the bottom.) Not too difficult but should be moved in html.

2) Personal message indicator needs to be more obvious and improved (flashing message indicator was a nice hack)

But bottom line is that VB should not be a script that can pull in a certain demographic of users. If it were, than those into gaming would require every store/points/stars hack we could install as it appeals to the market. The bottom line is that it should be the most functional forum around with the easy ability to add if you want it.

The key: The additions should be >>invisible<< to the user and at the option of the admin. Looking at what is available here is beyond confusing to the average user.

[Cary]

Looking at what is available here is beyond confusing to the average user.

As it has been said many times before, this is not the final style.

[squall14716]

As it has been said many times before, this is not the final style.
Maybe someone should put huge, bold, flashing text at the top saying that... :D

[slinky]

Maybe someone should put huge, bold, flashing text at the top saying that... :D Who cares. I'll have to pull out over 50% to make in unconfusing to the average user no matter what is changed in the style...

[StevenTN]

Honestly, I'd like a central place where all past fixes for all previous versions could be viewed. I upgraded from 2.2.6 to 2.3.0 and I get asked what are the changes in this version. It's hard to go through all of the threads (with release candidates and finals).

[jamslam]

Honestly, I'd like a central place where all past fixes for all previous versions could be viewed. I upgraded from 2.2.6 to 2.3.0 and I get asked what are the changes in this version. It's hard to go through all of the threads (with release candidates and finals).

no need to look through threads anymore.. in the members section you can find a "change log" under "support/resources"

[dwh]

I believe one of the fixes for this release is not a complete fix.

Line 632 in register.php now reads:



$usergroup=$DB_site->query_first("SELECT usertitle FROM usergroup WHERE usergroupid=2");

But should read
$usergroup=$DB_site->query_first("SELECT usertitle FROM usergroup WHERE usergroupid=$user[usergroupid]");


The bug relates to the fact that users before this version that changed email addresses but were in a different usergroup than usergroup2 got put back into 2. Some changes were made to that useractivation table to include what the usergroupid was prior to changing email addresses. However, the code in line 632 puts in the usertitle from usergroupid 2 instead of what is stored in the useractivation table.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

[dwh]

In fact, I think there's another problem with this code in this section:

// ############################### start request activation email ###############################



if ($user[usergroupid]==3) { // only do it if the user is in the correct usergroup
// make random number
mt_srand ((double) microtime() * 1000000);
$user[activationid]=mt_rand(0,100000000);
if ($user['dateline']=="") {
$DB_site->query("
INSERT INTO useractivation
(useractivationid, userid, dateline, activationid, type, usergroupid)
VALUES
(NULL, $user[userid], ".time().", '$user[activationid]', 0, 2)

###############################
This assumes that the value in useractivation table is usergroupid 2 rather than whatever was put in through member.php when the user changed email address.

[dwh]

I'm pretty sure there is another bug in member.php.

Testing on my hacked board with the virgin code it happens. Please verify.

Register normally. Do not click on link in email.
First go to usercp.php and change your email address. On my board this sets your usergroupid to 3 in the useractivation table which is incorrect.

Thank you.

[Steve Machol]

Please post suspected bugs in their own thread.

[dwh]

Sorry steve, like I wrote in the other thread I didn't expect it to really be a bug, just an incomplete fix so I was discussing the release here since it was a "fix"...then the more I looked at the code the more I saw problems.

Member.php needs a code review and although I haven't looked much at vb3 I suspect it wouldn't hurt over there either...

The entire concept of activation ids is nice but it gets really complicated depending on how you handle multiple usergroups. 99% aren't doing so that's why this code doesn't get looked at much, but if vb3 does use that more because of the new features, you will get a lot of problems. Just imo.

Confusing about where to post. This thread is for discussion of the update and the other one is for troubleshooting and for me it was in between. I got all hacked up code anyways and will fix it myself, just trying to help and share...please merge threads or whatever you like...and again, sorry for the error.

[boda]

i am new user and i want download any version from vBulletin for free version i cant do it but my frind Ragab make it ??????? :confused:

[Sephiroth 9999]

You must pay to legally use vBulletin. Please do not use any pirated vBulletin software as Jelsoft will find out and order its shutdown. Please report any sites giving out vBulletin for free. :)

[dstruct2k]

i am new user and i want download any version from vBulletin for free version i cant do it but my frind Ragab make it ??????? :confused:
Can anyone translate this to Intelligent English? The most I can guess from it is that he has a friend named Ragab offering to make vBulletin for him. Either that or it really just says to stay away from the crack while surfing vB.com.

[Floris]

version 2.3.2 of vBulletin has been released, and as always, this one costs money for users who don't have a valid/active license.