vBulletin 2.3.0 Released - discuss

[Kier]

Please post in the troubleshooting forum if you are having any problems with vBulletin 2.3.0.

If you would like to discuss the new release, discuss away!

Kier

[John Round]

No 2.2.10 then :p

[Kier]

We changed the version number mainly due to the use of the vbmail() function and the change to the useractivation system.

[Smirks]

Please post in the troubleshooting forum if you are having any problems with vBulletin 2.3.0.

If you would like to discuss the new release, discuss away!

Kier
Will we have to be running 2.3.0 to upgrade to 3 when it's available, or will there be an upgrade path to 3.0 from 2.2.9?

[Kier]

The only database change between 2.2.9 and 2.3.0 is the addition of a field to the useractivation table, and the vB3 upgrade script will detect whether or not that field has been added, creating it if necessary.

So in short, no, you don't have to be running 2.3.0 to run the vB3 upgrade script. (Although I would recommend that you upgrade to 2.3.0 anyway.)

[Dean C]

At last! I've been waiting for 2.3.0 for so long now. Finally i can upgrade my board!

- miSt

[Bro_Joey_Gowdy]

Just a quick - newbie question - when I upgrade will i loose all the posts and members if I do not use the backup function ? Explain please.

[TommyBALL]

Yay! :D

Well done again vB Team :)

[Steve Machol]

You should not lose any data but making a backup is always a prudent thing to do prior to upgrading.

[Nosferatu]

errr..

I tried downloading the script but all thats in the upload folder is an admin folder... in that there are 13 files..

Am I missing something here :confused:

cheers,
Ian.

[N9ne]

*waits for final 2.3.0*

Now i'm contemplating whether to make hacks for 2.2.9 or 2.3.0 :confused:

I'll have to make them for both ;).

[Bro_Joey_Gowdy]

You should not lose any data but making a backup is always a prudent thing to do prior to upgrading.

Alrighty thanks for the info

:cool:

[Nosferatu]

hmm yeah it would appear furry ducked I'm afraid :(

(\).

[RayManZ]

i just bought yesterday a vB license and hacked it completely. If i now upgrade do i have to start all over again? Or is there a way to keep my hacks and mods?

I'm a vB n00bie :p

[nuno]

The download zip for the .php extentions is corrupted and during several attempts during the extraction process the admin/template.php script seemed to be where it bombed.
No problems here. :confused:

[Kier]

I've downloaded the file several times without any problems... please try again. Do remember that each time you download the file it creates a zip file specifically for you.

[nuno]

One of the biggest changes for vBulletin 2.3.0 is that all calls to PHP's mail() function are now routed via a central vbmail() function in functions.php. This was done so that people with non-standard server setups can easily modify the way email is sent from their vBulletin installation.

Where is this new option?

[Floris]

Can we expect a nice email bulletin once the release candidate turns into stable (final) [gold] {w00t} ?

[Kier]

Can we expect a nice email bulletin once the release candidate turns into stable (final) [gold] {w00t} ?
Yes, as usual :)

[Rose]

i just bought yesterday a vB license and hacked it completely. If i now upgrade do i have to start all over again? Or is there a way to keep my hacks and mods?

I'm a vB n00bie :p


You'll have to rehack. ;) That's the fun part. *tee hee*

[Yuber]

Yuo said for the version you need upgrade1.php, where can i get that? It is never in the zip files?

[Nosferatu]

thanks,

yeah everytime *I* tried downloading it, it was corrupt... but I got one of the other members in my team to do it instead... and it works now :) (so far )



That's the fun part.


and I'm sure it will be fun again in 2wks when 3.0 becomes a RC..... honest *lol*:rolleyes:


:p:D

[hannay]

every time I try and download ANY version, i get a 0kb zip file :mad:

[Steve Machol]

every time I try and download ANY version, i get a 0kb zip file :mad:
Temporarily disable your firewall then try the download again.

[hannay]

Temporarily disable your firewall then try the download again.
nice one Steve, that does the trick :) its been annoying me for a while now :)

[RayManZ]

You'll have to rehack. ;) That's the fun part. *tee hee*

why! :(

i think i going to skip this update :p and wait for 3.0 :)

[Steve Machol]

why! :(

i think i going to skip this update :p and wait for 3.0 :)
Upgrades always overwrite the hacked php files.

[vBadvanced]

Members getting email notification after thread moved to private forum
I actually kinda liked that bug. We have a private "deleted posts" forum where all threads go rather than deleting them. Some people were still replying to a thread that had been deleted and it was bugging the hell out of the person that started it because he couldn't see what we were saying, only that we were replying. :D

[Dr Shark]

i feel like a dumbass, i thought it said vbulletin 3.0.lmao

[grog6]

Pffffffffffff, it makes now more 3 mounths we're wainting for vb 3.0 and you release a vb 2.3 :(

I really don't understand you and I don't think I'm the only one .....

[HairyMonster]

You guys have a knack of releasing a new version just as I finish hacking the hell out of my old version.

I am sure you lot have trojaned my PC and can see when I finish typing the last bit of code :)

HM

[Yuber]

Where it said for the version you need upgrade1.php, where can i get that? It is never in the zip files?

[Marco]

http://www.vbulletin.com/members/upgrade.html

Near the bottom of the page, there's a link to a ZIP file. Download that, and you'll find upgrade1.php will be in it. :)

[WetWired]

There is a list of affected files, so you'll have to recreate the changes for those files.

[XYPHEN]

I downloaded the new version, going to upgrade my beta boards. Then wait for vB3 before hacking the hell out of them..

[Blue Moose Aaron]

Crap, just when I got my board hacked up just the way I wanted it

[joro]

Great release guys!

*Joel anxiously awaits 3.0*

[v2axfr]

pffffff..... :eek:

i'm waiting for the 3.0 version since a lot of month.... :rolleyes:

when will you published the 3.0 version ?? :confused:

ps : excuse my englsih, i'm french :)

[Brian Briscoe]

... Upgraded! :)

[nferreri]

Pffffffffffff, it makes now more 3 mounths we're wainting for vb 3.0 and you release a vb 2.3 :(

I really don't understand you and I don't think I'm the only one .....
1 word: foreplay!

[Bro_Joey_Gowdy]

Hmmmmm...

Im haveing a bit of trouble installing a vbtest2.3 test board - any thoughts?

Im wanting to install this test board before i update and overwrite my old hacked files to simply see if i want to keep the 2.3rc.

[filburt1]

Are there any XSS or other serious security vulnerabilities fixed in 2.3.0?

[Steve Machol]

According to the announcement there are no security fixes:

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=65126

[Steve Machol]

Hmmmmm...

Im haveing a bit of trouble installing a vbtest2.3 test board - any thoughts?

Im wanting to install this test board before i update and overwrite my old hacked files to simply see if i want to keep the 2.3rc.
Please start a new thread with all the relevant details. :)

[waltdrwns]

no pkzip.cfg file in my zip file?
was it taken out of this release?

[feldon23]

You guys have a knack of releasing a new version just as I finish hacking the hell out of my old version.

I am sure you lot have trojaned my PC and can see when I finish typing the last bit of code :)

Haha, I feel the same way!

vB 2.2.9 is the first time I have really gone all-out with making modifications across the board. Just finished all my mods at 2am last night. I told my co-admin that vB 2.3.0 would come out very soon. :)


Thank God for Beyond Compare and copious notes.

This is not the place to discuss how to upgrade a heavily-hacked board, but the gist of it is, unzip a fresh copy of vB2.2.9 (scrap the ID folder so they it starts with "vbulletin229\upload") and use Beyond Compare to compare against your current version (I have mine in "vb_currentversion"). Turn off the data/timestamp recognition and set it to compare purely based on Content. This will tell you the differences between your 2.2.9 and the "factory" 2.2.9.

Then unzip vb2.3.0 and apply those differences to vb2.3.0.

I do the same thing with templates that are modified. I go to the template in question, Select All, copy it to a temp file "001-a", then click "View Original", Select All, copy it to a temp file "001-b" and use Beyond Compare.

[Bro_Joey_Gowdy]

Thank God for Beyond Compare and copious notes.


where can i get that ?

[Static-xbox]

where can i get that ?

As posted in the downloads section in the members are, you can get Beyond Compare at http://www.scootersoftware.com/ ;)

[Zachery]

im not sure if ive done sumthing while trying to hack the forum, i have 3 posts on my test server, and they display just fine. but there not showing up in the members link, no post bit any ideas :\

[Zachery]

sorry this is dbl post, didnt remember if i could edit attachments in a post, aslo the last picture had to be cut up due to the image size restricions and the size of my desktop.

any ideas?

[Benjy]

Upgraded but something disturbs me... it's the embedded "Moderator" text in showgroups.php.
Well, the fact is I translated all my board in french, so the groups are in french too :P
So... my question is: why didn't you make a condition, like for the super-moderators group, to check if the group already has another name? ;)

[Michael2]

i feel like a dumbass, i thought it said vbulletin 3.0.lmao

Me too! I think it was the 3 in 2.3.0 that threw me off. That and the down time tonight. :( ETA: Geez, I did it again when viewing new posts. *lol*

Question... 2.2.9 will still be available when the beta for vB3 is released, right? I would like to upgrade from 2.2.8 to 2.2.9 to 3 but I don't want to do it until I have to because I don't want to readd hacks.

[Angelos]

Where is the 3.0 Version ???

com on guys !

[Kier]

Where is the 3.0 Version ???

com on guys !
Yeah, we are delaying as long as possible on purpose. :mad:

[DWZ]

no pkzip.cfg file in my zip file?
was it taken out of this release?
Yeah, I just noticed the same thing.

Not that I really understood what the file was there for in the first place...

[Ksilebo]

I'm going to hold off until vB 3 beta. Is there any estimate of when "very soon" will be? Because I want to upgrade my board at some point, yet dont want to re-hack my board.

[Marco]

Seems there's a small error in the changelog...

The mod/moderate.php file didn't change at all between 2.2.9 and 2.3.0.

[Steve Machol]

Note: If anyone is having problems then please start your own thread with all the necessary info. This is not a troubleshooting thread.

[fury]

I thought odd numbers in the minor version (3 in 2.3.0?) meant that it was a beta release, which is why 2.1.x was skipped. :confused:

Is 2.3.0 a beta?

[Kier]

2.3.0 is not a beta. We don't follow the naming structures of Linux kernel releases (where the idea of odd numbers being beta comes from).

[RandomLove]

Hi,
I have 2.2.5. Do you advice me to upgrade to 2.2.9 or go stright to 2.3.0?

Thanks
R.L. :)

[sebe]

Hi,
I have 2.2.5. Do you advice me to upgrade to 2.2.9 or go stright to 2.3.0?

Thanks
R.L. :)

if your going to upgrade might as well go with 2.3.0.

[Rasbelin]

Just updated from 2.2.9 to 2.3.0 and it works great. :cool: Thanks very much for the update! Let's hope we see vB 3.0 soon.

[Joe Gronlund]

We changed the version number mainly due to the use of the vbmail() function and the change to the useractivation system.

vbmail() function and the change to the useractivation system :confused:

[MarkB]

Yeah, we are delaying as long as possible on purpose. :mad:

I knew it! Damn you!! :p

[Joe Gronlund]

what was the change to the useractivation system ??

[Reverend]

We changed the version number mainly due to the use of the vbmail() function and the change to the useractivation system.

Can someone explain in more detail what exactly the vbmail function,and the useractivation system are.

[nuno]

Can someone explain in more detail what exactly the vbmail function,and the useractivation system are.
Who cares as long as it works. j/k :D

[Joe Gronlund]

Can someone explain in more detail what exactly the vbmail function,and the useractivation system are.


i would like to know myself :confused: :confused: ohh kiiiier :)

[Lucas]

I downloaded it and when I want to extract it one file won't extract: upload/admin/template.php, it says the file is corrupted. I've downloaded the file 2 times. :(

Regards.

[Steve Machol]

Lucas, once again please view the vBulletin Forum Rules (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42918) about signatures and modify yours so it follows the posted rules.

As for you extract problem, try disabling any firewalls when you download the zip file.

[Lucas]

Lucas, once again please view the vBulletin Forum Rules (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=42918) about signatures and modify yours so it follows the posted rules.

As for you extract problem, try disabling any firewalls when you download the zip file.
Ok, fixed my sig and now the file was downloaded correctly. Thanks.

Regards.

[Angelos]

Yeah, we are delaying as long as possible on purpose. :mad:

hmmm... maybe then, I am paying you too much (160$) for nothing :mad:

[Neocorteqz]

i just bought yesterday a vB license and hacked it completely. If i now upgrade do i have to start all over again? Or is there a way to keep my hacks and mods?

I'm a vB n00bie :p

The best way to keep hacks in place, is to use a File comparrison program like araxis Merge(http://www.araxis.com/) or Beyond Compare(http://www.scootersoftware.com/)

Beyond Compare cost 30 bucks and araxis cost are depending on what you need.

[mtha]

You'll have to rehack. ;) That's the fun part. *tee hee*
Phewwwss

I just finish upgrading 2.3.0 with my hacks. I dont have that many hacks, and it tooks me few hours to make everything runs smooth.

:) Beyond Compare does a great job on helping me adding the changes on.

tah tah

[alkahf]

Upgrade to 2.3.0 Done without any problem

Good lock :) for all

[alkahf]

Phewwwss

I just finish upgrading 2.3.0 with my hacks. I dont have that many hacks, and it tooks me few hours to make everything runs smooth.

:) Beyond Compare does a great job on helping me adding the changes on.

tah tah
No hacks in templates will change
Only you need to add hack's changes to vB files
It is 30 Minutes only :)
Good Lock mtha

[MarkB]

hmmm... maybe then, I am paying you too much (160$) for nothing :mad:

Firstly, recognize the sarcasm. Secondly, how can you consider $160 for a lifetime license for the best forum software around "too much"? :)

[Rav3n]

i'm still on version 2.2.7
if i upgrade to 2.3.0 will i have to install all previous upgrades (ie 2.2.8 & 2.2.9) before moving to 2.3.0? or can i just jump straight to 2.3.0 from 2.2.7?

[Xenon]

you can jump to 2.3.0 immediately, but you have to run the upgrade.php for 227 to 228 then228 to 229 and then 229 to 230.

but all you have to do is to upload the 2.3.0 files :)

[Rav3n]

k. so it's just on upgrade.php file which does all that?

thnx btw. :)

[Joe Gronlund]

k. so it's just on upgrade.php file which does all that?

thnx btw. :)


no it will take you three, read the upgrade instuctions in the members area

http://www.vbulletin.com/members

[Rick Horwitz]

I'm going to hold off until vB 3 beta. Is there any estimate of when "very soon" will be? Because I want to upgrade my board at some point, yet dont want to re-hack my board.


Very soon = Christmas 2002
Actual Release = New Years 2004

[SiXXGuNNZ]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ksilebo
I'm going to hold off until vB 3 beta. Is there any estimate of when "very soon" will be? Because I want to upgrade my board at some point, yet dont want to re-hack my board.

you will have to rehack it anyway with an upgrade to vb3, on top of that, hacks will have to be re-written ;)

[Joe Gronlund]

Very soon = Christmas 2002
Actual Release = New Years 2004


umm, its already 2003 :D

[Joe Gronlund]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ksilebo
I'm going to hold off until vB 3 beta. Is there any estimate of when "very soon" will be? Because I want to upgrade my board at some point, yet dont want to re-hack my board.

you will have to rehack it anyway with an upgrade to vb3, on top of that, hacks will have to be re-written ;)

Most hacks are included in vb3 :)
least, 95% of all the ones i use are :cool:

[dvdtalk]

Installed 2.3.0 RC on our forum and it seems to be running very well.

[Rick Horwitz]

umm, its already 2003 :D


It can't be because V3 was supposed to be here by Christmas '02 :confused:

[Paul]

Have session issues been fixed in vB 2.3? You know those pesky ones (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=57150)we've been harping about for a few months now? I don't even see sessions.php in the list of changed files. *sigh*

Paul

[Wayne Luke]

Have session issues been fixed in vB 2.3? You know those pesky ones (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=57150)we've been harping about for a few months now? I don't even see sessions.php in the list of changed files. *sigh*

Paul
Those issues have not been fixed and won't be fixed in vBulletin 2.X... They will be fixed in 3.0 according to the developers.

[XYPHEN]

I fresh installed vb2.3.0 on my support forums without any errors, there are no errors at all its all perfect, I am just dying to see vB3 release so I can upgrade and make the new style..

[Chase]

It looks like 2.3.0 is a good go when will the final release be?

[HostDirectory]

Do i loose my hacks when upgrading?

If so do i loose them completely or do some remain? Like for example sql changes and queries run for the hacks?

Do i just need to we install the hacks that were changed in a file or re run all the sql queries and changes made?

Do i need to do anything or will it all convert over?

I am a newbee.

[Beorn]

The changes to the DB remain. All the changes to the files are erased...

[HostDirectory]

The changes to the DB remain. All the changes to the files are erased...

So i wont need to run the table queries in this hack again? - http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25888

[feldon23]

[QUOTE='HostDirectory']So i wont need to run the table queries in this hack again? - http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/show...id=25888[/QUOTE (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/show...;threadid=25888[/QUOTE)]

Right. Great hack by the way. :)

Test a few before entering in all new numbers! I've done a page of numbers and then hit Apply and it turned out differently than I expected.

If there are 3 rows of smilies, then it is
1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9

So if you have 1 row of happy smilies, then they are 1, 4, 7, 10, etc.


p.s. I guess I've discovered another bug (see above).

[Joe Gronlund]

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/show...;threadid=25888[/QUOTE[/url]]

Right. Great hack by the way. :)

.

no, you shouldnt

i dont believe the proxy hack works in 2.3.0, but ohh well :)

[BuffyWorld]

I am getting problems.... I update from 2.2.9

People are not recieveing there confirmation emails..

I get the following message when I click on 'email notification email'

Database error in vBulletin 2.3.0:

Invalid SQL: SELECT user.userid,usergroupid,username,email,password,ac tivationid FROM user LEFT JOIN useractivation ON (user.userid=useractivation.userid AND type=0) WHERE email='BadAngel2888@aol.com'
mysql error: Column: 'usergroupid' in field list is ambiguous

mysql error number: 1052

Date: Monday 17th of February 2003 06:07:29 AM
Script: http://forum.buffyworld.com/register.php
Referer:

------------

Also i have gotten the following emails from the forum.
==============================

Subject: vBulletin (forum) Database error!


Database error in vBulletin 2.3.0:


Invalid SQL: INSERT INTO useractivation VALUES (NULL,'2793','1045459940','50905138',0)
mysql error: Column count doesn't match value count at row 1


mysql error number: 1136


Date: Monday 17th of February 2003 12:32:20 AM
Script: http://forum.buffyworld.com/register.php
Referer: http://forum.buffyworld.com/register.php


==============================
I have gotten a few of them messages in my inbox
===========================

I ALSO get this message In my emails

Database error in vBulletin 2.3.0:


Invalid SQL: SELECT user.userid,usergroupid,username,email,password,ac tivationid FROM user LEFT JOIN useractivation ON (user.userid=useractivation.userid AND type=0) WHERE email='BadAngel2888@aol.com'
mysql error: Column: 'usergroupid' in field list is ambiguous


mysql error number: 1052


Date: Monday 17th of February 2003 06:07:29 AM
Script: http://forum.buffyworld.com/register.php
Referer:


I'm guessing something did not take with the sql database when updating the forum to 2.3.0.

How do i fix it?

[Xenon]

BuffyWorld it seems you've installed a hack which changed the db structur of the useractivation table.

two ways
reinstall the hack correctly
or
deinstall it completly

[Kier]

Invalid SQL: SELECT user.userid,usergroupid,username,email,password,ac tivationid FROM user LEFT JOIN useractivation ON (user.userid=useractivation.userid AND type=0) WHERE email='BadAngel2888@aol.com'
mysql error: Column: 'usergroupid' in field list is ambiguous

Invalid SQL: INSERT INTO useractivation VALUES (NULL,'2793','1045459940','50905138',0)
mysql error: Column count doesn't match value count at row 1

Invalid SQL: SELECT user.userid,usergroupid,username,email,password,ac tivationid FROM user LEFT JOIN useractivation ON (user.userid=useractivation.userid AND type=0) WHERE email='BadAngel2888@aol.com'
mysql error: Column: 'usergroupid' in field list is ambiguous None of those queries exist in 2.3.0's register.php in that form - I can only suggest that you re-upload the original register.php from the 2.3.0 zip file.

[HostDirectory]

no, you shouldnt

i dont believe the proxy hack works in 2.3.0, but ohh well :)

You are referring to the smilies hack i was talking about?

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25888

If that is the case i probably wont upgrade.

[qxh]

You are referring to the smilies hack i was talking about?

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25888

If that is the case i probably wont upgrade.

I think I may have found a bug ???

Users get the following error when requesting the password and I get it through Admin CP when trying to send them password:

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: vbmail() in /home/gamewiza/public_html/forum/member.php on line 171

Forums are here: http://forum.gamewizards.net

And yes i've tried reuploading member.php :(

[poolking]

You are referring to the smilies hack i was talking about?

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/show...;threadid=25888 (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25888)

If that is the case i probably wont upgrade.

You guys do realise that this is the release candidate and not a stable release yet?

I'd hang fire for the developers to declare its now a stable release, I made that mistake when 2.2.8 was released as a release candidate, this was soon after I purchased my first vbulletin licence and some things weren't working then a couple of days later they'd released the stable version.

[qxh]

hehe, I just got mine... Looks like i've done the same as you did...

[tubedogg]

I think I may have found a bug ???

Users get the following error when requesting the password and I get it through Admin CP when trying to send them password:

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: vbmail() in /home/gamewiza/public_html/forum/member.php on line 171

Forums are here: http://forum.gamewizards.net

And yes i've tried reuploading member.php :(
Please reupload all of the original files (namely admin/functions.php) from the vB2.3.0 zip file and see if the error still occurs. If it does, please start a thread in the Troubleshooting forum.

[Steve Machol]

Users get the following error when requesting the password and I get it through Admin CP when trying to send them password:

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: vbmail() in /home/gamewiza/public_html/forum/member.php on line 171

Forums are here: http://forum.gamewizards.net

And yes i've tried reuploading member.php :(I couldn't duplicate this problem in my unhacked 2.3.0 test forum. Reupload functions.php.

[qxh]

Sorted, thank you.

[Joe Gronlund]

I think I may have found a bug ???

Users get the following error when requesting the password and I get it through Admin CP when trying to send them password:

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: vbmail() in /home/gamewiza/public_html/forum/member.php on line 171

Forums are here: http://forum.gamewizards.net

And yes i've tried reuploading member.php :(


I cannot reproduce this error myself? :confused:

[qxh]

Like I said, it's sorted now...

[Joe Gronlund]

Like I said, it's sorted now...

ok calm down, i didnt refresh this page before posting, sorry :D

[poolking]

Like I said, it's sorted now...

It makes me think, how many people actually read some of the posts before they reply. :D

[poolking]

ok calm down, i didnt refresh this page before posting, sorry :D

You have to grovel before the master before you are forgiven ;)

[Steve Machol]

It was sorted when he uploaded the original functions.php file from 2.3.0.

[Hwulex]

Gutted. I spend ages upgrading, and hacking apart 2.2.9, then days later you release 2.3.0 with some actual worthwhile changes! Dammit!! :(

[Floris]

Yeah damnit,
it is such a disappointment to see they kept their motivation in putting time and effort in improving their product!
Bastards!

[BuffyWorld]

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: vbmail() in /usr/local/psa/home/vhosts/forum.buffyworld.com/httpdocs/register.php on line 525

I'm getting this error when people try to register..

how do i fix?

[Xenon]

upload an unhacked functions.php file!

[Cary]

BuffyWorld, please start a new thread in the vB2 troubleshooting forum. We would rather not provide support in the Annoucement Discussion forum. :)

[Lt.Christy]

Everything Installed fine and works on my 2.2.9 upgrade except for a mail problem as seen here
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=65400

[ZiRu$]

i just bought yesterday a vB license and hacked it completely. If i now upgrade do i have to start all over again?


you sure will :(

[gogga]

*ahem*

when will 2.3.0 be out of "release candidate" stage? cause i, like, you know, like, wanna upgrade and stuff

[Joe Gronlund]

My guess is Friday :)

[Paul]

Those issues have not been fixed and won't be fixed in vBulletin 2.X... They will be fixed in 3.0 according to the developers.
How ... irritating.

[centris]

Firstly, this board is now very slow on dialup, second despite being logged in I cannot post in the bugs forum! And lastly, has anyone had any issues posting a new thread in 2.3.0.? I get a SQL error message (listed below)


Database error in vBulletin 2.3.0:
Invalid SQL: SELECT title FROM thread WHERE threadid=
mysql error: You have an error in your SQL syntax near '' at line 1
mysql error number: 1064
Date: Thursday 20th of February 2003 12:41:08 AM
Script: http://www.caddis.co.uk/forums/forums/newthread.php
Referer: http://www.caddis.co.uk/forums/newthread.php?action=newthread&forumid=8


I reverted to 2.2.9, deleted the addition to the table and everything is fine again. Any info welcome.

[Cary]

Centris, reupload your original newthread.php file overwriting the one you currently have on your server. Make sure to upload in ASCII transfer mode! If that doesn't fix the problem, please start a new thread in the vB2 Troubleshooting Forum.

[tubedogg]

Bug reports should be started in the troubleshooting forum and once confirmed they will be moved to the Bug Reports forum, as noted in the forum description.

[VirtueTech]

You guys tricked me.

At first it looked like the new VB3 to me

[nero]

Can you explane what is that?
I receive it on the technical E-mail.
---

> Database error in vBulletin :
>
> Link-ID == false, connect failed
> mysql error:
>
> mysql error number:
>
> Date: Friday 21st of February 2003 04:00:20 AM
> Script: /forumdisplay.php?forumid=63
> Referer: http://www.cgtalk.ru/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=14
---

[RandomLove]

My guess is Friday :)

Today's Friday... ;)

[Steve Machol]

nero,

Please don't use this thread for reporting problems. Instead start a new thread. Thanks.

[ABrazell]

nero,

Please don't use this thread for reporting problems. Instead start a new thread. Thanks.
Ever get sick of repeating the same thing over and over and over and over and.....

:p

[Nosferatu]

I get sick of the bitchin' that goes on in this 'community' ... sometimes I feel there might be a better atmosphere in the state pen with big bubba ;)

so what if you paid for it... tell that to Micro$haft :p

EDIT:
atleast you get some feedback and news from the developers here

[centris]

I get sick of the bitchin' that goes on in this 'community' ... sometimes I feel there might be a better atmosphere in the state pen with big bubba ;)

so what if you paid for it... tell that to Micro$haft :p

EDIT:
atleast you get some feedback and news from the developers here

Whot! only been with us 7 weeks and sick of us already tut tut, how do you find vbulletin 2.3.0. then???

[Nosferatu]

Whot! only been with us 7 weeks and sick of us already tut tut, how do you find vbulletin 2.3.0. then???

lol... yeah something like that ;)

naw... I'm just fed up... invision and ikonboard fighting over domains....
yabbse can't get their security right (or anything else for that matter)... yapp (the portal for yabbse) is going down...

the whole yabbse community is screwed, all the bickering, posts magically disappearing... flames... etc etc etc...

so compared to them (which is surprising) vb still appears top of the list for support and respect of peoples views.

2.3.0 is ok... *shrugs* I bought 2.2.9 a night or so before 2.3.0 went to RC... so I was a smidgen frustrated to find I'd modded it etc to have to do it again... and then again when vb3 comes out... so I've decided to wait for 3 before I start doing any drastic changes.

after moving from GPL stuff, I was a bit weary about buying VB, I'd reviewed it for a client at college once before.... basically took the piss out of it mainly due to the cost... and how other boards have the same features etc but for free...

I admit, I ate my words in the time between that review and now I don't know how much hassle I've had with yabb... the impatience I've had with phpbb2... and the countless other "clones" of vb I've found.

I was told the other day that the reason vb is worth the money is because of the support that they'll 'even come sort out your database' if you're having severe problems...

personally I don't buy that... that's what good backups are for right? Is there really anything that would require a tech to come into your db and fix something?

What I like about VB is the speed...
the features... the professionalism.

It's blatantly obvious that other free boards don't give a damn about security.

just even the small things like when it tells you who has replied to a post in the e-mail notification... unlike:



A reply, has been posted to a topic you are watching.

View it at http://www.yabbse.org/community/index.php?board=158;action=display;threadid=8632;s tart=new

Regards,
The YaBB SE Community team.


yes, there are many things I dislike...

www.3dhomeworld.com &
www.4development.net
both run from the same server
why can't I buy a 'site' licence instead of individually for each domain...?

the posting interface can be blocky (3 looks much nicer btw ;) ...)
the tables go crazy if you insert lots of text in a row or a large graphic
inserting smilies... why if I click a line then a smilie, does it insert them at the very bottom?

overall though I love vbulletin,
although, I'd like to wish that I was paying for much more than just this 'support', because I don?t plan on using it...

I have to keep forgetting that WindowsXP home is cheaper than a VB license ;)

(\).

[Steve Machol]

I was told the other day that the reason vb is worth the money is because of the support that they'll 'even come sort out your database' if you?re having severe problems...

personally I don?t buy that... that?s what good backups are for right? Is there really anything that would require a tech to come into your db and fix something?You'd be surprised how often I have to fix someone's database - on average at least twice per day, and I'm just one of four people doing support work on a daily basis.

Thanks for the nice comments by the way. :)

[Nosferatu]

You'd be surprised how often I have to fix someone's database - on average at least twice per day

I stand corrected ;) I'll take that comment back lol :eek:

btw what is it with all the ???? replacing inverted commas... all I did was paste it from word hehe

np btw... only the truth.

(\).

[alkahf]

When v.2.2.9 working all e-mail's sent from my board was From: vBulletin Club mailer and our email
However, after upgrade to 2.3.0 All e-mail's sender been:
root@host.alkahf.net.
Note: alkahf.net is hosting our site.

In addition, the same email
I mean when make reply it will reply to root@host...etc
In addition, in body there is:
From: "vBulletin Club Mailer" <webmaster@vBulletinClub.com>

Tell me please: what is problem?
In addition, how can I fix it?

Thanks

[poolking]

When v.2.2.9 working all e-mail's sent from my board was From: vBulletin Club mailer and our email
However, after upgrade to 2.3.0 All e-mail's sender been:
root@host.alkahf.net.
Note: alkahf.net is hosting our site.

In addition, the same email
I mean when make reply it will reply to root@host...etc
In addition, in body there is:
From: "vBulletin Club Mailer" <webmaster@vBulletinClub.com>

Tell me please: what is problem?
In addition, how can I fix it?

Thanks

Admin CP -> Contact Details

Change the Contact us e-mail to the e-mail address you want and do the same for the Webmaster's e-mail.

In the config.php file make sure the contact e-mail address is set correctly.

[Kaelon]

Any news on when v2.3.0 will be declared "stable"?

[SiXXGuNNZ]

Any news on when v2.3.0 will be declared "stable"?
sometime in 2003 :)

hehe, I am in no rush, getting me a new license in a dat or so, this time owned, I would like it to be stable also, but pickers can't be choosers :D

[Electronic Punk]

Would be nice to see it up and ready... we are waiting for it to go final before installing and adding various hacks...

[feldon23]

I've upgraded to 2.3.0RC1 *and* RC3. :( The pain...

And I know nobody held a <insert FAA-classified 'dangerous weapon' item here> to my head and made me upgrade to a RC.

[N9ne]

What is the situation on a final release of 2.3.0? Anytime soon?

[Steve Machol]

Nothing official yet.

[nawialkair]

Any news on when v2.3.0 will be declared "stable"?

I really want to upgrade my 2.2.9 to 2.3.0.

[HairyMonster]

Probably a day before 2.3.1 comes out :)

[feldon23]

If it is too much of a burden to update vBulletin for these relatively minor bugfixes, you really don't have to. There's nothing new in vB2.3.0 that was necessary for my board, I just suffer from the same "gotta-be-up-to-dateitus" that is so rampant here.

If we only upgraded when we had a free weekend and clear mind and/or when there is a security vulnerability found and resolved, I think we'd all be a more relaxed bunch. :)

[Meltingfire]

If it is too much of a burden to update vBulletin for these relatively minor bugfixes, you really don't have to. There's nothing new in vB2.3.0 that was necessary for my board, I just suffer from the same "gotta-be-up-to-dateitus" that is so rampant here.

If we only upgraded when we had a free weekend and clear mind and/or when there is a security vulnerability found and resolved, I think we'd all be a more relaxed bunch. :)

So you dont think the Porn Spambots are a security vulnerability?

[feldon23]

So you dont think the Porn Spambots are a security vulnerability?

I wouldn't know, I haven't encountered them. <strike>Is there a topic here that talks about them? (searches for porn, spambot, spambots yielded no results)</strike>

{edit: Apparently Search does not work on subforums.}

Are they using rotating IP addresses and different e-mails?

I'd be curious to know which boards have been hit by them.

[tubedogg]

So you dont think the Porn Spambots are a security vulnerability?
They are not a security vulnerability. They are an annoyance and a drain on resources but they are in no way exploiting anything within vBulletin itself.

[HairyMonster]

My site is https and when I log into the control panel I get the stupid there are non secure items on this page stuff so I upgrade just to stop it nagging me to death.

H

[Erwin]

Upgraded from RC 1 to RC 3 in 30 minutes. The new image registration system works great. Thanks. :)

[Roody]

Upgraded from RC 1 to RC 3 in 30 minutes. The new image registration system works great. Thanks. :)

any ballpark idea when 2.3.0 will go stable?

[fury]

There's a way you can prevent that from happening, just take out the call home code in the admin script. You'll find some in index.php and adminfunctions.php

[[CSC]Sebastian]

Don't want to be one of those "when will it be out moaners" but when can I expect 2.3.0 final to be out?

I upgraded to 2.3.0 RC1 and since there are almost never bugs I also implemented all hacks and such but now I have to do it again so I want to waiit until the final 2.3.0 is out ;)

It probably has been asked before but will it be possible to upgrade from 2.3.0 RC1 to vb 3.0, maybe I'll wait for that then because I dont want to rehack my whole board :(

Cheer for the answer,
Sebastian

[feldon23]

In this case, it is easier to upgrade your your board to 2.3.0RC3 by putting fresh copies of 2.3.0RC1 and 2.3.0RC3 in separate directories and using Beyond Compare to tell you the differences.

They are minimal enough that you can just "hack" RC3 into your RC1 board. :)

[Scrooge]

I have a problem I haven't seen addressed since upgrading. If a user is logged out, and replies to a thread, they get the screen where they can sign in. But, after filling in the name and password and clicking Login the page is not found.

Yes, my board has been hacked some. Any suggestions on where to look to find what caused this problem?

[Steve Machol]

Try the 'error_nopermission_loggedout' template.

[Scrooge]

Thanks, that did it. I just had to move $bburl in two spots and it works now :)

[Roody]

Thanks, that did it. I just had to move $bburl in two spots and it works now :)

I just noticed there is now a Permissions section under Coppa Information when you attempt to register. I take it this is new with 2.3.0?

[SiXXGuNNZ]

wow, it has been 30 days now :eek:

[MUG]

wow, it has been 30 days now :eek:
True, but I'm in no hurry because vB 2.3.0 RC3 has been working fine for me. Also, my (owned) license has expired.

[SiXXGuNNZ]

True, but I'm in no hurry because vB 2.3.0 RC3 has been working fine for me. Also, my (owned) license has expired.

also agreed, rc3 is running fine also for me. I think they are spending more time on vb3, which I do not mind, cuz I would love to have a public beta to play with :D

[Pilot]

Please finalise 2.3.0 this procrastination is getting ridiculous.

[Kier]

We are currently waiting for the vBulletin Germany team to tell us that their translation is complete so that we can do a simultaneous release.

[Mark Wegener]

We are currently waiting for the vBulletin Germany team to tell us that their translation is complete so that we can do a simultaneous release.Damn German people, hurry up, it isn't that hard!

[Glitch]

Hehe, well, I'm not renewing my license that expired as of the 13th until they release it... (fer a little motivation) :D

Glitch

[TotalBS]

Damn German people, hurry up, it isn't that hard!

I heard they wanted to give the inspectors more time.:rolleyes:

[Kier]

Damn German people, hurry up, it isn't that hard!
Hey it's not all their fault... there have been some late bugs turning up that mean that they keep having to re-do things.

[stark427]

I prefer having a really stable 2.3.0 (and to be the final 2.x.x version) 2-3 weeks from now, than having one tomorrow and then again 2.3.1 in one month...

so I can wait :)

[Brian Briscoe]

Yeah, its not really that important to me, considering im still in RC 1.

[nuno]

We are currently waiting for the vBulletin Germany team to tell us that their translation is complete so that we can do a simultaneous release.
Should we expect the same with vB3, a simultaneous release?

[Steve Machol]

Should we expect the same with vB3, a simultaneous release?
Since all language is moving out of the files and templates and into Language Packs, this will not be necessary. They will just need to have the German Language Pack ready.

[nuno]

Since all language is moving out of the files and templates and into Language Packs, this will not be necessary. They will just need to have the German Language Pack ready.
Oh, I see, thank you Steve. :)

[Bane]

We are currently waiting for the vBulletin Germany team to tell us that their translation is complete so that we can do a simultaneous release.

Is this going to be a constant thing in the future Kier? I can't imagine having to wait for a security fix because it hasnt been translated to whatever other languages you guys make official in the future.

[TotalBS]

Is this going to be a constant thing in the future Kier? I can't imagine having to wait for a security fix because it hasnt been translated to whatever other languages you guys make official in the future.
I think it's more of a courtesy for the Germany team, since this is such a big, anticipated release.

With security fixes, and any future upgrades, I would assume, since the language is now in separate files, this should not be an issue at all.

Again, the true forward thinking of the vBulletin team is apparent. There will only be ONE version to code. Language is no longer much of a factor in updates.

vBulletin..... worth every penny.

[s.molinari]

Hi all,

We are working on the coordination between us and vB.com to improve software releases. This is the first release (and not the last;)) that we will be doing together and we're learning by doing. The delay at the moment was caused, funny enough, by a miscommunication. Sorry about that. Please be patient with us.:)

I am very sure that in the future there will be no unnecessary delays, especially with security issues.

Scott

[tubedogg]

Is this going to be a constant thing in the future Kier? I can't imagine having to wait for a security fix because it hasnt been translated to whatever other languages you guys make official in the future.
I'm not aware of any security fixes in vB2.3.0.

[Bane]

I'm not aware of any security fixes in vB2.3.0.

My point in that was if you make a security release, not that there was one. For example if you found said bug and had to god forbid release 2.3.1 do you wait for the german translation? In vb3 are you going to wait until the German side has finished as well?

[Chase]

errr ... make vB 2.3.0 Stable!

[Chen]

My point in that was if you make a security release, not that there was one. For example if you found said bug and had to god forbid release 2.3.1 do you wait for the german translation? In vb3 are you going to wait until the German side has finished as well?
...

Since all language is moving out of the files and templates and into Language Packs, this will not be necessary. They will just need to have the German Language Pack ready.

[Ron G]

I am running 2.2.6 right now. I've avoided upgrading because of all of the hacks I've put on my site. Can I upgrade directly to 2.3.0 or do I have to go through the intermediate versions first?

[Surrix]

You can use the files for verison 2.3.0 but you will have to run each upgrade script starting with the one for 2.2.7 and then all the way up to 2.3.0. So just download the zip apply your hacks again and then run all the upgrade scripts.

[Ron G]

You can use the files for verison 2.3.0 but you will have to run each upgrade script starting with the one for 2.2.7 and then all the way up to 2.3.0. So just download the zip apply your hacks again and then run all the upgrade scripts.Got it. Thanks.

[Bane]

...

Whats the point of this post?

[Floris]

We are currently waiting for the vBulletin Germany team to tell us that their translation is complete so that we can do a simultaneous release. Kier, I understand that Germany is now selling the german version of vBulletin, but I don't see why you should wait on them.

The majority is still English and releasing the english version as normal, is quite normal to do. If german translation takes longer, they just have to wait longer. Not the majority of the members.

I think this is just rediculous.

Since it is so much more easier in 3.x to do this, maybe it was wiser to not do this with the final version of the 2.x serie, and start with 3.x so you speed up on things, rather then delay it more.

[Floris]

...
Chen,
his question is about this release, 2.3 not 3.0 pointing out something without saying something about it is not really worth posting at all, and pointing something out that isn't relevent to his question, isn't worth posting at all.

[Chen]

Chen,
his question is about this release, 2.3 not 3.0 pointing out something without saying something about it is not really worth posting at all, and pointing something out that isn't relevent to his question, isn't worth posting at all.
He asked "In vb3 are you going to wait until the German side has finished as well?" and I quoted Steve's post because it answers that question and I don't feel like repeating things that have already been said.

[Bane]

He asked "In vb3 are you going to wait until the German side has finished as well?" and I quoted Steve's post because it answers that question and I don't feel like repeating things that have already been said.

Then very likely I could have just read Steves thread, and didnt really need the ... at all now did I? However his post doesnt answer the question to my satisfaction at all. What I asked was what if the german side isnt done with their translation. Steve said:


They will just need to have the German Language Pack ready.

So what if the German Language Pack isn't ready? Or the french, spanish or whatever other languages vb decides to translate to. This seems a valid question to me since it has been a month now since the vb2.3.0 upgrade was announced and it's still not done. I understand Kier is fixing things at a breakneck rate, but I am doubting that each of those issues involved a language translation that needed to be redone. I have seen unsupported translations come out much faster, and thats including scotts own.

Maybe for you and the other vbTeam members who know the behind the scenes deals this seems like a stupid question, but for those of us english based customers that are waiting for a stable release of vbulletin 2.3.0 and arent quite sure what a german issue has to do with us, or those of us actually still waiting for vb3 it seems valid indeed. More than a month since vb2.3.0 RC was released. 20+ days since vb2.3.0 RC2/3. 11 days since the vbulletin Germany announcement. I understand that this isnt a huge deal, but as a paying customer I feel that I am not being too harsh to wish to know the future of a product that I hold two licenses to, and have to advise clients on. This is a rather big deal to me as I have to turn around and explain something I can't explain myself to others, so I look to the vbTeam to advise me on the situation, is that too much to ask?

My question remains:
Will translation issues affect release dates in the future, or will each team be responsible for their own version/release date?

Please dont just respond no, there will be language packs, as that doesnt answer the question of what will happen if that language pack isnt finished.

[Chen]

If a severe security-related bug is discovered the fix will be released as soon as humanly possible, whether or not the German version is ready. However, I am now aware of such issues in the current 2.3.0 Release Candidate 3 version so if the German team needs one or two more days we will allow this. I am not sure what is unclear about this policy which is accepted in a lot of software houses.

Being our first release which is coordinated with the vBulletin Germany Team there are still things that need to be worked out. I am sure that if there will be another vBulletin 2 release things will go much smoother, and in the future of vBulletin 3 the work that will be required to translate the software will be dramtically lower.

[Bane]

Thank you for your answer Chen. I appreciate your taking the time to answer.

[HairyMonster]

We are currently waiting for the vBulletin Germany team to tell us that their translation is complete so that we can do a simultaneous release.

if the english translation is fine then why not just finalise it as tbh most of use are bloody english and I personaly dont see why we should be made to wait just because vbull germany has not got its act together.

Dont get me wrong I aint got a problem with germany but I sure as hell think its a bit of a piss take to be waiting for them to sort thier version out before we can have a final english version.

H

STILL waiting to upgrade to a final version of the latest vBulletin 2.3.0

[feldon23]

To play devil's advocate, the German team might find more bugs.


Since the change from vB 2.3.0 RC1 to 2.3.0 RC3 is so minimal, I highly suggest you extract a fresh vB 2.3.0 RC1 into a folder, and a fresh vB 2.3.0 RC3 into a different folder, compare them with Beyond Compare, and just make the changes yourself to your hacked board.

Took me 15 min.

Is there an archive of old vB versions somewhere? I ate my vB 2.3.0 RC1 accidentially, otherwise i'd give you a changelog.

[nuno]

To play devil's advocate, the German team might find more bugs.


Not likely to happen, and even if they did, they are now an official site, so, the bug would be fixed in no time, there are also skilled people over there you know?



Is there an archive of old vB versions somewhere? I ate my vB 2.3.0 RC1 accidentially, otherwise i'd give you a changelog.
Yes, it is available at YOUR member area HERE (http://www.vbulletin.com/members/changelog.html). :)

[feldon23]

No, that is a changelog from vB 2.2.9 to 2.3.0(who knows what version?!). Useless for comparing 2.3.0RC1 to 2.3.0RC3. Plus it is not specific enough. The one in the vB 2.3.0RC3 announcement is more detailed.

So like I said, is there an archival copy of vB2.3.0RC1 somewhere so I can compare it to vB2.3.0RC3 and produce a step-by-step to update it?

[nuno]

Oh, maybe this thread will help you:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=65126
There's plenty of info posted by Kier and Freddie regarding all Release Candidates (RC1, 2 and 3).

[feldon23]

{EDIT: Self-censored -- I am being WAY more diplomatic here than I feel I should have to be}


Nuno,

I already upgraded vB 2.3.0 from RC1 to RC3 myself.

I've asked if there is an online archive to download a virgin copy of RC1.

Your responses have been:

#1 No, you don't need that, you can just read this changelog over here.

First, I have ALREADY upgraded.
Second, that changelog is not specific enough.
Third, that is not the question I asked.


#2 Here is the vB2.3.0 release announcement where you can get more than enough info.

First, I have ALREADY upgraded.
Second, that topic does give a good list of the changed files, but is not a granular line-by-line changelog.
Third, that is not the question I asked.


Maybe I am being an a-hole here, but the suitable answer here is either "here's where you can get a changelog that is as detailed as you are talking about, with LINE BY LINE changes listed between the files" or "here's where you can download vB2.3.0 RC1", not "no, you don't need that, here's the thread you visit to get upgraded to vB2.3.0."

Both of your responses made me FURIOUS. This is like going to a mechanic and he tells you he needs part X and you tell him no, you'll just bring him part Y which doesn't fit the car. What the hell are you paying him for if you are going to tell him his job?

Please don't tell me how to do my job and I will do the same.

[Steve Machol]

There's no need to be rude. I don't see anything in nuno's post that warrants this kind of reaction.

[nuno]

Morgan, there is no changelog available at the moment for the Release Candidates, probably you will only get a changelog from version 2.2.9 to version 2.3.0 final, that's why they are called Release Candidates. :)

[Icheb]

nuno: The changelogs do not go enough into detail for him, he wants a list of every line of code which has been changed! However, if I recall correctly, Jelsoft is not willing to provide such an en detail changelog since it would make things easier for people with illegal copies to upgrade, they just needed the list instead of the files.

[feldon23]

/me slams his head into a wall. That feels better.

[Erwin]

Upgrading from RC1 to RC3 or RC to Gold versions is a matter of just copying files over and running the upgrade.php file. Why would you need a changelog?

Jelsoft specifically states they do not support hacked forums. You'd only need the changelog for a hacked forum.

[Floris]

Erwin, don't bother, they are like dalnet script kiddies, stubern and they never learn.

[feldon23]

"screw the hacked forums"

Mkay.

Erwin,

Hacked forums are not supported in a tech support sense, but they are not ignored either. Otherwise why would Kier go to the trouble of posting a list of changed files with each vB release?

Why is this turning into such a charged issue? I asked for someone to send me RC1 so I could prepare a detailed changelog and in response I am getting hammered here.

Copying over "all the files" to go from RC1 to RC3 is like reformatting to install a Windows 2000 hotfix.

vBulletin is the best for keeping us up-to-date, and the "list of changed files and templates" has been the #1 reason why I feel comfortable customizing my board as much as I do. Because I know I can still keep up-to-date without nightmares.

It is only the "march of the release candidates" that is miring vB2.3.0. The number of file changes from vB2.3.0RC1 to vB2.3.0RC3 is so minimal, that most hacked boards would be foolish not to at least attempt upgrading their board in-place to RC3 by making the same changes the developers did.

I guess I will take this to vBulletin.org.



Xiphoid said:
Erwin, don't bother, they are like dalnet script kiddies, stubern and they never learn.

Where do I go to report abusive vB.org moderators? :eek: :(

It's rich that you two are primary fixtures at the #1 hacking forum for vBulletin and then giving us crap here for having personalized vBulletin. Maybe I should point some vBulletin.org people over here and see what they think.

[feldon23]

nuno said:
probably you will only get a changelog from version 2.2.9 to version 2.3.0 final
It's funny, I'm the first one there to back up the developers over vB3 delays. But vB2.3.0 is seriously dragging. What's the deal guys?

[Erwin]

"screw the hacked forums"

Where do I go to report abusive vB.org moderators? !!:eek: :(

It's rich that you two are primary fixtures at the #1 hacking forum for vBulletin and then giving us crap here for having personalized vBulletin. Maybe I should point some vBulletin.org people over here and see what they think.
You come to me. I am the vB.org Admin. How was I abusive??? My post was merely a statement of the Jelsoft position. I was not even talking to you.

Also, I have moved the thread you started in the vB.org General Hacking Discussion forum to The Lounge forum, just so you don't think I have deleted or moved your thread for no reason.

http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?threadid=50418

My post was not referring to you - I was just restating the official Jelsoft position about not supporting hacked vB forums. vB.com does not offer support for hacked forums. This is what vB.org is for.

[nuno]

Why is this turning into such a charged issue? I asked for someone to send me RC1 so I could prepare a detailed changelog and in response I am getting hammered here.

Don't you know that it is forbidden to share vBulletin or any of its files? Anyone who shares it will end with no license at all, why don't you submit a support ticket and ask someone from the vB Team to send the files to you?

[Ed FvC]

Would someone just give the man a zip file with RC1 in it? That's all he wants, guys.

Everyone have a Coke and a smile. :)

[Steve Machol]

Would someone just give the man a zip file with RC1 in it? That's all he wants, guys. For the simple reason that anyone who does this is violating the license agreement and risks having their license revoked. The sharing of vB files is expressly prohibited.

[feldon23]

Let me try to find where it says that sending an old copy of vB from a licensed user to a licensed user is prohibited... *be back in a few*


Here's the closest I can find...


The Software is licensed only to you. You may not rent, lease, sublicence, sell, assign, pledge, transfer or otherwise dispose of the Software in any form, on a temporary or permanent basis, without the prior written consent of Jelsoft.

If you want to take that and run with it, then sending a copy of vBulletin to a co-administrator of my forum so he can work on it is also a violation and I stand to lose my license.

Also, no matter what the license agreement says, it cannot abridge the right of first sale.

Can we get some clarification from Legal here?


And I didn't see anything about telling people how to modify their software. Otherwise the template and PHP hack forums on vBulletin.org would be locked from non-members reading (not attachments, just reading).

This is so sad that I am having legal snafus over board software that I love and recommend so highly to others. And all because I right-clicked instead of left-clicked when saving vB2.3.0RC3.

[okrogius]

Let me try to find where it says that sending an old copy of vB from a licensed user to a licensed user is prohibited... *be back in a few*


Here's the closest I can find...



If you want to take that and run with it, then sending a copy of vBulletin to a co-administrator of my forum so he can work on it is also a violation and I stand to lose my license.

Also, no matter what the license agreement says, it cannot abridge the right of first sale.

Can we get some clarification from Legal here?


And I didn't see anything about telling people how to modify their software. Otherwise the template and PHP hack forums on vBulletin.org would be locked from non-members reading (not attachments, just reading).

This is so sad that I am having legal snafus over board software that I love and recommend so highly to others. And all because I right-clicked instead of left-clicked when saving vB2.3.0RC3.
So now not only are you asking someone to encourage copyright infridgement by giving you a copy of their files, but also you are now asking to be given a free license as per your right of sale?

Seriosuly, lighten up... sheesh. Hacking was never suppsrted and mos tlikely will not be. If you insist on your comparison log get a file merge program - you can find a link in the members area for one.

[feldon23]

I am licensed.


So now not only are you asking someone to encourage copyright infridgement by giving you a copy of their files

I am licensed.

but also you are now asking to be given a free license as per your right of sale?

I am licensed.


If you insist on your comparison log get a file merge program - you can find a link in the members area for one.
It's kinda hard to compare between vB2.3.0RC1 and vB2.3.0RC3 with a file merge program (I have Beyond Compare) when you accidentially overwrote vB2.3.0RC1 with vB2.3.0RC3 and there is no archive available in the members area!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[nuno]

What's the point in having an Archive Download Area?
Jelsoft, AFAIK, does not support older versions, therefore, they are not available for download, seems logical to me....
[edit] And you are being very rude

[feldon23]

Some of us choose to be helpful. Some of us choose not to be. Let's all take our masks off.

[Steve Machol]

What's unclear about the license agreement? :confused: It says you cannot transfer the software. This has always been the policy and if you've been around long enough you will see that we routinely remove attachments of vB files in posts.

As was pointed out earlier, the proper way to request this is through the support system.

[Steve Machol]

Clearly this thread is offtrack and deteriorating rapidly. It's time to close it.