List of ALL vb codes missing?

[David Copeland]

I tried to look in the FAQ of Ver 3 for the complete list of all VB codes, and could not find the "center" VB code. I ended up just trying to place the word "center" between the VB brackets and it worked. But I would like to know where all of the codes are.

[vBR]

Originally posted by David Copeland
I tried to look in the FAQ of Ver 3 for the complete list of all VB codes, and could not find the "center" VB code. I ended up just trying to place the word "center" between the VB brackets and it worked. But I would like to know where all of the codes are. See this thread (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=61869).
I've been asking the same thing.
:confused:

[Dr Shark]

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/misc.php?do=bbcode


Enjoy.;)

[Wayne Luke]

Originally posted by DS2K2
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/misc.php?do=bbcode


Enjoy.;) That doesn't list them all. ;)

It appears that since the list is generated dynamically now, that someone forgot to add the default ones to it.

[David Copeland]

Originally posted by DS2K2
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/misc.php?do=bbcode


Enjoy.;) Can we get a Team Leader to help us with this question. Even the VB link posted above gives no clue as to what HTML codes are converted to VB code.

[Wayne Luke]

Originally posted by David Copeland
Can we get a Team Leader to help us with this question. Even the VB link posted above gives no clue as to what HTML codes are converted to VB code. I already answered your question. I am guessing the issue will be fixed when that template is redone with the new style. If the issue still exists after the release of the new style, then it is a problem.

[David Copeland]

Originally posted by Wayne Luke
I am guessing the issue will be fixed ....
Forgive me, but do you have a reporting mechanism within the "team" that will place this oversight/error on the to-do list before Ver 3 is released? (I would hate to see it handled as a problem after the release, which may result in yet another version update)

[Wayne Luke]

Originally posted by David Copeland
Forgive me, but do you have a reporting mechanism within the "team" that will place this oversight/error on the to-do list before Ver 3 is released? (I would hate to see it handled as a problem after the release, which may result in yet another version update) Considering I have been on the TEAM for two years now, I would hazard that as being a yes.

[bdbourn]

It's responses like the one below that are going to be the death of vBulletin. As has been expressed by other customers of vBulletin on this site, replies like this and many others are simply rude.

If vBulletin was a free product this would be fine. When a person is a paying customer there should be a more professional level of customer service.

I would not put up with this smart ass attitude from a company like Microsoft nor would my customer (Home Depot) put up with it from my company - I shouldn't be expected to put up with it from Jelsoft.

I asssume someone makes money from the sale of the vBulletin product and that Jelsoft is a "real" company.

Does the person whose income depends on vBulletin sales ever read these forums?




Originally posted by Wayne Luke
Considering I have been on the TEAM for two years now, I would hazard that as being a yes.

[feldon23]

Would you rather vBulletin be run like every other company out there which is essentially closed to the public?

If someone is going to post here, you need to be mature about things. Unlike most companies, vBulletin let's the general public talk directly to the developers. Do you know how rare this is?

Instead of vBulletin being hidden behind a Public Relations/Lawyer screen, there is open communication here.

If you are interested in a one-size-fits-all solution that doesn't adapt to customer's needs, go with Microsoft or UBB or someone else. If, however, you are interested in a company that does not ignore the customer, stick with vBulletin.

I would MUCH RATHER have the occasional sardonic response from a frazzled/sleep-deprived developer than not be able to talk to the people behind vBulletin.

I'm not sure why Mr. Copeland did not notice these telltale signs:

Wayne Luke - vBulletin Support
and

Wayne Luke
vBulletin Team

maybe he was in a hurry and didn't look?

[bdbourn]

Yes, I would rather have vBulletin run like most other companies out there who value customer input because it means more sales for the company. The other software companies you mentioned don't have a 'one-size-fits-all' any more than vBulletin does. They evaluate potential features and accept them or reject them based on specific critera like cost/performance to benefit analysis etc. just like vBulletin does. Read the threads for feature requests here on this board. The vBulletin team picks and chooses which features they want to add, just like every other software company does. Most other companies, however, don't tend to make their customers feel stupid for suggesting a feature.

I'd love to know what your definition of 'mature' is because if mature means gladly being insulted by the very company I have supported with my purchasing decisions, then I will fully admit to not being 'mature'.

If the developers can't conduct themselves in a professional manner then absolutely they have no business talking to the general public.

If you -or Jelsoft- really believe that the only choices are between rude and condescending support personnel with a good product and professional support personnel and a crappy product then the future of Jelsoft is in worse shape than I had imagined.

How about the third alternative ... professional and curteous personnel AND a good product?

If a developer or 'team member' is incapable of keeping his or her mouth shut in lieu of making a rude, condescending, or smart mouthed comment then he or she should stick to coding and not participate on the site.

Again, I wonder and would be very interested to know if the 'owners' of Jelsoft ... the people who have a financial stake in it's success ... ever read these message boards.

Just like Jelsoft came along with vBulletin, someone will eventually come out with a similar - or at least comparable - product and if Jelsoft hasn't engendered any customer loyalty they will, I am afraid, find themselves in trouble.



Originally posted by feldon23
Would you rather vBulletin be run like every other company out there which is essentially closed to the public?

If someone is going to post here, you need to be mature about things. Unlike most companies, vBulletin let's the general public talk directly to the developers. Do you know how rare this is?

Instead of vBulletin being hidden behind a Public Relations/Lawyer screen, there is open communication here.

If you are interested in a one-size-fits-all solution that doesn't adapt to customer's needs, go with Microsoft or UBB or someone else. If, however, you are interested in a company that does not ignore the customer, stick with vBulletin.

I would MUCH RATHER have the occasional sardonic response from a frazzled/sleep-deprived developer than not be able to talk to the people behind vBulletin.

I'm not sure why Mr. Copeland did not notice these telltale signs:

Wayne Luke - vBulletin Support
and

Wayne Luke
vBulletin Team

maybe he was in a hurry and didn't look?

[feldon23]

Yes, I would rather have vBulletin run like most other companies out there who value customer input because it means more sales for the company.
You've just combined 2 things that corporate history proves cannot be combined. EITHER you have direct customer input and direct communication with the developers, or you have a huge PR shield between the people who make the product and the public.
The other software companies you mentioned don't have a 'one-size-fits-all' any more than vBulletin does.
I'm not sure what world you are living in, but UBB, Microsoft, Quark, Adobe, Macromedia etc. etc. are all companies that produce one-size-fits-all products that do not cater to the most important needs of customers. Yes, they make millions/billions in revenue, but do they really make products that suit their customer's needs as best they can? The answer is no. In a "it's good enough" society, vBulletin (and TiVo, to give another example of this kind of company) strives to be different.
If you -or Jelsoft- really believe that the only choices are between rude and condescending support personnel with a good product and professional support personnel and a crappy product then the future of Jelsoft is in worse shape than I had imagined.
I didn't say a crappy product. I said a product that does not cater to the needs of its customers. Look at UBB, look at Microsoft and Adobe. Yes, their programs are serviceable. But don't they feel like they were written for someone else and you can manage to force it to work for what you need?

Especially Macromedia. Their programs feel like they were created by engineers and programmers with no input from their graphic designer and multimedia customers. They operate the exact opposite of how a graphic designer thinks.

And Microsoft. I don't know any customers who are calling up Microsoft and saying "Yes, please increase the size of the installer by 100MB and include a dancing paper clip."

How about Quark? They are the industry leader in publishing. If you are doing an ad layout, a magazine, business cards or any other graphic design that needs mission-critical page layout, you are a Quark customer. The only reason Quark is the industry leader is because it produces consistant results when printing. Do I even mention that the keyboard shortcuts in Quark are totally different from the keyboard shortcuts all other graphic design programs have standardized upon and cannot be changed?

Quark issued version 5.0 of their software, encouraged everyone to upgrade and immediately stopped selling Quark 4.2. It quickly became impossible to find Quark 4.2 on store shelves. Why do I mention this? Due to a serious bug in Quark's copy protection mechanism which did NOT go through its beta-test group, EVERY copy of Quark 5 that was connected to the Internet would freeze for 30 seconds every 3-5 minutes.

Do you know how long it took for Quark to offer a patch/fix/upgrade? 4 MONTHS.

In contrast, vBulletin developers read the latest news about PHP, MySQL, etc. and as soon as they find a security vulnerability, a fix/update is available on their website within HOURS.
I hate to bring this in because you'll shoot it down, but I will mention it anyway. For what vBulletin does, I think $160 is an absolute steal. I think if you want to be coddled, you're going to have to pay a lot more than that for your software. vBulletin adds as much or more value to my website than Photoshop and it lists for $600.
How about the third alternative ... professional and curteous personnel AND a good product?
Doesn't exist. Please read some Ann Rynd books.
If a developer or 'team member' is incapable of keeping his or her mouth shut in lieu of making a rude, condescending, or smart mouthed comment then he or she should stick to coding and not participate on the site.
If you would rather not see Wayne's comments, then you are welcome to use the Ignore feature here on the forum. While he could have said what he said differently, I think you being extremely sensitive to it.
Just like Jelsoft came along with vBulletin, someone will eventually come out with a similar - or at least comparable - product and if Jelsoft hasn't engendered any customer loyalty they will, I am afraid, find themselves in trouble.
vBulletin has my loyalty and the loyalty of thousands of other customers for their directness, honesty, and frequently-updated, stable software. There ARE dozens of other bulletin board software out there, many of which are run in the corporate manner you seem to like. Those bulletin boards' popularity is a fraction of vBulletin's.

I am not saying that we won't likely see some kind of apology from Wayne, only that I am willing to accept what I consider a harmless off-the-cuff remark in exchange for vBulletin remaining the company it is.

[Freddie Bingham]

Yes, this is a bug since the built in codes aren't listed. I'll move it to the bugs forum and so it will be handled by the release. We just need to add the default codes to the template (such as [center], [i], [b], etc).

.. and I am sure Wayne was not intending to be rude with his response.

[XiXora]

id cut out the off topic stuff mods. as it dont really belong here tbh, but remember we are all human here with emotions and feelings :p

:)

[David Copeland]

Originally posted by freddie
Yes, this is a bug since the built in codes aren't listed. I'll move it to the bugs forum and so it will be handled by the release. We just need to add the default codes to the template (such as [center], [i], [b], etc).

.. and I am sure Wayne was not intending to be rude with his response.
Any news on this bug?

[feldon23]

They might be waiting for the new style to put this in. Hmm.

[Wayne Luke]

Originally posted by feldon23
They might be waiting for the new style to put this in. Hmm. Appears to be in already.... Click on the vbCode link in the rules box at the bottom of the thread.

[inetd]

I don't see [ post ] and [ thread ] in vBCode list :(

[Stadler]

There's still one tiny bug.

Simple E-Mail-Linking:

Example Usage: johndoe@example.com
Example Output: johndoe@example.com

Shoud be:

Example Usage: [email]johndoe@example.com[/email]
Example Output: johndoe@example.com

;)

[David Copeland]

Try this link:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/misc.php?do=bbcode

[inetd]

Originally posted by David Copeland
Try this link:
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/misc.php?do=bbcode And what?

[Freddie Bingham]

Yes I forgot about [thread] and [post].