Can someone explain this??....

[Novadream]

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=55937

....so that I can understand it..because I thought that the message board runs off the internet server..But I read this post as if the person is talking about running it off of their hard drive.

sorry if I am coming off as totally stupid..This is just a brand new realm for me and I don't have much of a clue what is going on. Hopefully i'll catch on quick.

thanx.

[Steve Machol]

Most people use web hosting companies but some people run their own servers on a home machine that it set up as a web server and is connected to the Internet.

[ccd1]

Well, I think that you think that there is some kind of "Central internet sever"?

Every website is hosted on its own server (some sites share servers). The internet is just a network of many servers put together. Any computer can act as a server if configured properly.

[Novadream]

^ I was aware of that already..Thats one of the reasons I asked this question..The website has its own server so why would someone want to run the board off their hard drive?......

I wish I had never set my mind on building a message board..I don't have the slightest idea what's going on and it's really frustrating..I've been trying to understand what to do almost every day for the past 4 months..But 1, I am completely broke..2, I have win ME..So in the end of this stupid endevour it's going to cost me over 500 dollars to build a message board..Plus I have other things to purchase which the message board is for in the first place...Today is just the end of a whole lot of stress this stupid idea has caused me..I just wanted to start building my website the day I thought I would try something new..Which was easily 5 months ago..Everyday I come on my computer hoping that somehow I will figure something out..But nothing changes.

I can't build a board on win ME and I have no understanding as to why that is..And I guess I don't care about wondering why anymore..I don't catch any breaks..No breaks at all.

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
^ I was aware of that already..Thats one of the reasons I asked this question..The website has its own server so why would someone want to run the board off their hard drive?......


How does a website have it's own server by default?

[Novadream]

Originally posted by baragon0
How does a website have it's own server by default?


Does it look like I know anything?... Nope

[Steve Machol]

Why don't you just use a web hosting company? There are plenty that have inexpensive accounts.

[Novadream]

Originally posted by Steve Machol
Why don't you just use a web hosting company? There are plenty that have inexpensive accounts.

What do you mean?

[ccd1]

Pay for someone to remotely host your website

[Steve Machol]

Check this forum:

vBulletin Hosting Options (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=11)

[ccd1]

And/or this host

Ventures Online (http://www.venturesonline.com)

[Novadream]

That isn't my problem at all..It cost about 5 dollars a month..

The board is 160.. and XP is god knows how much.. those are my problems..

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
That isn't my problem at all..It cost about 5 dollars a month..

The board is 160.. and XP is god knows how much.. those are my problems..

Linux is free and a lot better for servers

[Novadream]

Originally posted by baragon0
Linux is free and a lot better for servers

Thats what I just heard somewhere else too... WOW.. If only I had of known that about 4 or 5 months ago.

Got a link for the download?


Yes save me.. I'll feel alot better once I get that monkey off my back...


Thanx.

[ccd1]

http://www.redhat.com/download/mirror.html

Unless you have broadband, don't even think about it

[Novadream]

What's broadband????



























LMAO!!!!!! hahaha i'm kidding... yeah i'm safe i have cable... and thank you for the link.. thank you very much!!!!!!!!

[Novadream]

This is confusing..

Ok I click on one of the links corresponding to my location.. And the i'm taken to a bunch of folders..Do you have any idea precisely where I am supposed to goto?....?

[Novadream]

http://www.linux.org/dist/list.html

^ Which one there would suit me best to build my website?

I typed in english and then go.

[ccd1]

RedHat, probably, since you seem to be beginning.

[ccd1]

You are taken to the FTP.

Look for the i386 (Which I assume you have) distro in English "en".

Download the ISO's and then burn them on to CD's.

[ccd1]

Most Cable providers do not allow you to host websites off your home computers because they are shared connections. They don't want you leeching the bandwidth of others too much.

[Novadream]

Ok... i'm not really sure what to do.. it takes me into soo many different folders.. I'm not sure what choices I'm supposed to make here.. And how to download them also??

[ccd1]

It depends on the FTP server you're on, they generally share a common hierarchy for this though.

Just look around for "ISO's" then "i386" and then "en"

Just drag and drop to download them.

Be sure to read my other post in your other thread about hosting on Cable. It's usually a big no-no.

[ccd1]

You, it seems, are going to need a lot of help setting Linux up.

You might want to try www.linuxnewbie.org/forum (they ironically run vBulletin) although you may get a lot of RTFM's.

[Novadream]

rhythms? riddims? rtms? huh?


and to your other post... i'm not planning on running my board off my hard drive... i want to have a website.. thats ok right?

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
rhythms? riddims? rtms? huh?


and to your other post... i'm not planning on running my board off my hard drive... i want to have a website.. thats ok right?

Nope, that's exactly what I said.

Most Cable ISP's have banned running sites off your computer (using their connection) because Cable shares bandwidth with all your neighbors and they want to keep things fast. DSL is a different story.

Check with your ISP, though.

You'll also need a static IP from them or a dyunamic DNS service (Which I don't recommend).

RTFM is basically "Read the ****ing manual"

[Novadream]

I keep saying I'm not going to be running it off my computer.

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
I keep saying I'm not going to be running it off my computer.

Oh, I understood that you wanted to run a website off your computer and not the vBulletin.

Nevermind

[Novadream]

Nope, earlier I was only asking why someone would want to do that.. I didnt understand.. And really I guess i dont care to know why now lol.. I gotta figure out how to download this linux which is enough trouble at the moment..


I think i download the cd icons.. right?

[Andy Z]

You don not need to have Linux on your computer to run a website/vB on a seperate webhost.

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
Nope, earlier I was only asking why someone would want to do that.. I didnt understand.. And really I guess i dont care to know why now lol.. I gotta figure out how to download this linux which is enough trouble at the moment..


I think i download the cd icons.. right?

I think Red Hat 8 has 5 ISO's. (Make sure they end in .iso)

That's around 3 gigabytes.

Good luck with that.

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Andy Z
You don not need to have Linux on your computer to run a website/vB on a seperate webhost.

I honestly hope he wasn't thinking he did.

[Andy Z]

He mentioned something in his other thread(s) about WinXP upgrade, because he couldn't use ME, so I thought he may have possibly got the impression that he needed WXP or Linux on his personal computer to setup a website/vB.

[Novadream]

Originally posted by Andy Z
He mentioned something in his other thread(s) about WinXP upgrade, because he couldn't use ME, so I thought he may have possibly got the impression that he needed WXP or Linux on his personal computer to setup a website/vB.

That's what more than 5 people told me.

They said it was either really difficult or impossible to build my message board because I had win ME.....


I only know what people tell me..I can't help it that I'm ignorant on this subject..I haven't ever done this before..And since it's the web, anyone can say anything to me..And things get confusing because of that.

[Andy Z]

You will basically need the following to get started with vB:
- A vB license
- A webhost supporting PHP/MySQL
- An FTP client (CuteFTP, WS_FTP LE, etc.)
- An ZIP decompressor (WinZip)
- An Internet Connection (duh)
- An internet browser (duh! IE6, Mozilla...)
- Basic HTML/CSS knowledge or WYSIWYG editor (FrontPage, DreamWeaver...)

The FTP, ZIP, WYSIWYG editor, browser, etc. can be based on any platform (Win, MacOS, Linux...).

Your webhost can be Windows or Linux-based, but most prefer Linux around here.

[Andy Z]

I'm going to bed now, if you have any more questions, ask, if noboady else has answered them when I come back, I'll see if I can help. :).

Goodnight, or Good-whatever, depending on where you are.

[Novadream]

I'm only more confused now than ever..

Am I supposed to download Linux or not?

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
I'm only more confused now than ever..

Am I supposed to download Linux or not?

Only if you want Linux to be your operating system. But it has nothing to do with the ability of someone else hosting your website.

[Novadream]

Originally posted by baragon0
Only if you want Linux to be your operating system. But it has nothing to do with the ability of someone else hosting your website.

Yeah I know that..Getting Linux would make it easier to build my message board though right?

I'll have 5000 posts by the time I begin building my board lol.. this is nonsense.

5 months and I'm still asking the same questions.

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
Yeah I know that..Getting Linux would make it easier to build my message board though right?


Um, no. You manage your board through a web-browser, for the most part. You can use any platform on most any browser (Internet Explorer, Opera, Mozilla, Netscape, Konqueror on Linux, Windows or Mac).

Just like we all view this page the same, you'll view your Admin CP and board the same as anyone else on any browser.

Operating system has nothing to do with it.

The Server is a different matter, but since you're having someone else do that, don't worry about it at all.

[Novadream]

Do you even have a message board?..

I think some of the things you tell me are wrong..So many people who know what they're talking about have told me that Linux makes it much simpler to build your message board on..And win ME is a very difficult platform to assemble a message board on..Why else would people tell me to get Linux? Just because they like saying the word Linux?..And you also told me to get Linux..Then you basically change your story and say oh they're all the same....Ok???? Plus I kept saying I didn't want to run my board from my hard drive and you kept answering my questions strangely..No offence, but I don't think you understand english very well.

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
Do you even have a message board?..


Several. All of which I host from my own computer sitting right next to me. Which I built and configured from scratch.



I think some of the things you tell me are wrong..So many people who know what they're talking about have told me that Linux makes it much simpler to build your message board on..And win ME is a very difficult platform to assemble a message board on..Why else would people tell me to get Linux? Just because they like saying the word Linux?..And you also told me to get Linux..Then you basically change your story and say oh they're all the same....Ok???? Plus I kept saying I didn't want to run my board from my hard drive and you kept answering my questions strangely..No offence, but I don't think you understand english very well.

They're talking about SERVERS! You obviously aren't listening to what your friends are saying and are confusing serving a message board to administering. They are totally different. You can serve your message board somewhere and administer it somewhere totally different. You administer it through a WEB BROWSER which is INDEPENDANT from any board. You SERVE it from any computer, and Linux is a good choice. You already said you didn't want to run it "off your own hard drive" so I haven't even been talking about that!

The reasons I'm answering your questions "Strangely" is because you have no idea what I'm saying. I might as well be speaking Basque to you because you have no idea about any of the things I'm talking about.

This is just too frustrating. Please get some background on computers before you attempt to bash my honest attempts to help you.

Will somebody please try to help me out here? It's obvious I'm not talking simple enough.

[ccd1]

I'm going to start this from scratch so that this can get into your head. I typically never have this much patience but I saw how hard it was for my little brother to learn HTML, even.

A website exists on a computer called a server. This is typically reserved for *serving* websites and is run on operating systems such as Unix, Linux or Windows Server. You obviously said you don't want this, so you are having someone else host it for you.

Good, now your site has a home. Don't worry about "Your own hard drive".

Now, you want to access your site. Running a message board is no different than posting on this page or going to yahoo.com. You just open your browser, go to your site, post, change your options in you CP and that's it. You can do this from any computer with an internet connection.

That's it. You don't need Linux or anything because that's for the server and you have that taken care of. All you need to do is access your site through any browser.

Comprende?

[Novadream]

Yeah but I don't have any webspace yet..And I want to build my message board in the meantime while I'm figuring out how I can pay for my webspace..So i wanna build my board on my hard drive..And then when I get my webspace I want to upload my board to my webspace and run it from there...

^ This is where I've been at for 5 months.....

Thanx for helping..I know I seem like an idiot..But this is just the trauma I've suffered for almost half a year of one person telling me one thing than the next saying something that contradicts the last persons statement..And that's why I have gotten nowhere yet.

Thanx.

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
Yeah but I don't have any webspace yet..And I want to build my message board in the meantime while I'm figuring out how I can pay for my webspace..So i wanna build my board on my hard drive..And then when I get my webspace I want to upload my board to my webspace and run it from there...

^ This is where I've been at for 5 months.....

Thanx for helping..I know I seem like an idiot..But this is just the trauma I've suffered for almost half a year of one person telling me one thing than the next saying something that contradicts the last persons statement..And that's why I have gotten nowhere yet.

Thanx.

Maybe if you learned everything yourself, you wouldn't have to listen to people and could do it all yourself.

I learned how to build and manage my server in fourty-eight hours. Sure, it wasn't optimal, but it was up and running.

What you want to do is somewhat tough (with your current level of knowledge).

You can always just get the most basic plan [for webhosting] (usually just $5 a month) and grow from there.

[Novadream]

Originally posted by baragon0
Maybe if you learned everything yourself, you wouldn't have to listen to people and could do it all yourself.

I learned how to build and manage my server in fourty-eight hours. Sure, it wasn't optimal, but it was up and running.

What you want to do is somewhat tough (with your current level of knowledge).

You can always just get the most basic plan [for webhosting] (usually just $5 a month) and grow from there.

I don't have 5 bucks... I'll have money later but I don't now.


Just tell me what to do..Thats's all I ever wanted was for someone to tell me what to do.. Step by step.. Beginning with step 1 obviously..I can read perfectly well. All I have to do is read the steps and comprehende whats going on..This is how people learn things..Which humans have been doing for millennia now.

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
I don't have 5 bucks... I'll have money later but I don't now.


Just tell me what to do..Thats's all I ever wanted was for someone to tell me what to do.. Step by step.. Beginning with step 1 obviously..I can read perfectly well. All I have to do is read the steps and comprehende whats going on..This is how people learn things..Which humans have been doing for millennia now.

Download RedHat.

While it downloads, read up on everything you can regarding configuring Apache. www.apache.org

Install RedHat by placing the first CD in a computer you don't need any more and run the installation using a "Server" set up and installing (At a bare minimum) SSH, Apache (Web Server), PHP, PHP-mySQL, and mySQL (database).

Come back when you're done with that.

[Novadream]

Originally posted by baragon0
Download RedHat.

While it downloads, read up on everything you can regarding configuring Apache. www.apache.org

Install RedHat by placing the first CD in a computer you don't need any more and run the installation using a "Server" set up and installing (At a bare minimum) SSH, Apache (Web Server), PHP, PHP-mySQL, and mySQL (database).

Come back when you're done with that.

What do you mean in a computer I don't need anymore? How many computers do you think I have? I have 1 computer man. I can't get 5 dollars together but I have a whole factory of computers located throughout my bedroom :rolleyes:

We're back at Linux again huh? I thought you said it didn't matter..?

[ccd1]

*Bangs head through a brick wall*

By hosting your own site, you are doing the same thing the "Web-hosters" would have done. What I told you not to worry about because you had someone else taking care of it.

By installing Linux, you are wiping out Windows, destroying all your files and coming up in a brand new computer under a brand new system you know nothing about.

Wait until you get $165, then.

[Novadream]

Originally posted by baragon0
*Bangs head through a brick wall*

By hosting your own site, you are doing the same thing the "Web-hosters" would have done. What I told you not to worry about because you had someone else taking care of it.

By installing Linux, you are wiping out Windows, destroying all your files and coming up in a brand new computer under a brand new system you know nothing about.

Wait until you get $165, then.

LMAO@165 thats pretty funny.. the extra 5 dollars is comedy..

OK OKOKOK.. I fully understand what's going on now..I get your first paragraph....OK I GET IT....

So, if I installed Linux it would erase all my files?..

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
LMAO@165 thats pretty funny.. the extra 5 dollars is comedy..

OK OKOKOK.. I fully understand what's going on now..I get your first paragraph....OK I GET IT....

So, if I installed Linux it would erase all my files?..

Not comedy.

$160 for the license + $5 for the hosting = $165

If you installed Linux, you would lose everything you know. It's an operating system. Everything will be totally foreign to you, you'll have to learn everything you know about how to manage your computer from scratch. Probably too complicated for you since Linux let's you know what's going on in your computer while windows just makes it look pretty.

[Novadream]

Originally posted by baragon0
Not comedy.

$160 for the license + $5 for the hosting = $165


yes I understood the meaning the first time.. Still makes me laugh.

[Novadream]

Originally posted by baragon0
If you installed Linux, you would lose everything you know. It's an operating system. Everything will be totally foreign to you, you'll have to learn everything you know about how to manage your computer from scratch. Probably too complicated for you since Linux let's you know what's going on in your computer while windows just makes it look pretty.

Ok so I definetly need the webspace first then? I assume thats a yes.. Linux would just simulate the websites server?? something like that?

Ok.. When I get my webspace will it matter that I have win ME?

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
Ok so I definetly need the webspace first then? I assume thats a yes.. Linux would just simulate the websites server?? something like that?


Not just simulate, but it's the same thing they use.



Ok.. When I get my webspace will it matter that I have win ME?

Not in the least.

[Novadream]

Alright thanx.. Not bad.. only 40 something posts.. I figured I woulda taken 100 at least j/k...........


I have another problem now.. I clicked on the first Linux file earlier.. I extracted some stuff.. Then through out what I extracted..But the main file won't let me toss it in the trash.. It keeps saying file is still in use.. And I've restarted my computer 3 times...... And still it says the file is being used.

Do you know what I need to do so that I can throw away that useless file...?

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
Alright thanx.. Not bad.. only 40 something posts.. I figured I woulda taken 100 at least j/k...........


I haven another problem now.. I clicked on the first Linux file earlier.. I extracted some stuff.. Then through out what I extracted..But the main file won't let me toss it in the trash.. It keeps saying file is still in use.. And I've restarted my computer 3 times...... And still it says the file is being used.

Do you know what I need to do so that I can throw away that useless file...?

Extracted? What's the name of the file.

[Novadream]

Originally posted by baragon0
Extracted? What's the name of the file.

Enigma-i386

[ccd1]

Enigma? That's RedHat 7.2

You want RedHat 8.0

Download files that end in .iso

[Novadream]

Originally posted by baragon0
Enigma? That's RedHat 7.2

You want RedHat 8.0

Download files that end in .iso

No I don't want any Linix files now..That's why I'm throwing it out..But I can't because for some reason it says it won't let me.

Do you know how to throw it out?

[ccd1]

What did you do to the file? What is the files full name (and extension)?

[Novadream]

So is Linux the only platform that would let me build a message board on my hard drive?

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
So is Linux the only platform that would let me build a message board on my hard drive?

a) You're not building it, you're installing it.

b) No. You can do it on Windows if you want. I just wouldn't recommened it as a real server.

[Novadream]

Originally posted by baragon0
a) You're not building it, you're installing it.

b) No. You can do it on Windows if you want. I just wouldn't recommened it as a real server.

Ok I'm slowly becoming more aware of how my mind was thinking the wrong way..

Well what I kinda wanted to do was mess around with the software for a bit on my hard drive.. and try out different hacks.. and see what kinda things I could accomplish... how would I install a board on my hard drive so that I could set up forums.. I'm just bored lol..

What do I need for that?

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
Ok I'm slowly becoming more aware of how my mind was thinking the wrong way..

Well what I kinda wanted to do was mess around with the software for a bit on my hard drive.. and try out different hacks.. and see what kinda things I could accomplish... how would I install a board on my hard drive so that I could set up forums.. I'm just bored lol..

You need a server for that.

Download Apache, PHP and mySQL for Windows.

Don't ask me how because I don't know servers on Windows.

[Andy Z]

OK, the following steps will hopefully get you started on setting up your message board on your own computer, so you can get it setup before buying hosting.

You will need the following tools:

WinZip
Internet Browser (IE, Mozilla, Netscape, Opera, Etc...)
vBulletin License
Apache, PHP, MySQL (there are packages that will setup up all of them for a personal testing server. (see below for link).
General HTML/CSS knowledge


[list=1]
DL vB Files from Members' Area
Install Apahe/PHP/MySQL using a package like PHPTriad 2.2.1
(Download PHPTriad2.2.1 (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=9325&release_id=75430))
Post a support request inthe vb 2 Installation Forum for hep in configuring vB on your new test server. I don't want to post it here, but you can askin that forum when you have bought your license.
[/list=1]
When you do this, come back to this thread and post the link to the thread in the Installation fourm, and I'll see it here, so I can help with the specific setup for PHPTriad.

[Wayne Luke]

Originally posted by Novadream
Do you even have a message board?..

I think some of the things you tell me are wrong..So many people who know what they're talking about have told me that Linux makes it much simpler to build your message board on..And win ME is a very difficult platform to assemble a message board on..Why else would people tell me to get Linux? Just because they like saying the word Linux?..And you also told me to get Linux..Then you basically change your story and say oh they're all the same....Ok???? Plus I kept saying I didn't want to run my board from my hard drive and you kept answering my questions strangely..No offence, but I don't think you understand english very well.

Actually, I do... Three to be exact. All three are hosted on someone else's server. I access the control panels of them and perform administration duties from 5 different computers. None of them have Linux installed on them. And I have never had Linux installed on one of my computers.

I have used Windows 98se, Windows ME, and Windows XP to manage these boards over the last 3 years and counting. There is absolutely no reason, you need to change the OS on your PC if it works for you to run vBulletin on a hosted web account.

To install an environment that allows you to run vBulletin on your computer download phpdev4 or phptriad. And install them. They will install APACHE, PHP and MYSQL on your drive. They work under Windows. You can search for them at www.hotscripts.com

[Novadream]

Ok I downloaded everything now what is my first step?

and thank u

[Andy Z]

Have you run the installer for PHPTriad (or whatever one you downloaded)?

If, yes, post a question in the Installation Forum, and someone can help, since you can oly post in there if you are a licensed customer.

If, no, then run the installer, then follow the isntructions above.

If you cannot post in that forum:
-Buy your license
-Then go to http://www.vbulletin.com/members/forums.php and enter Novadream into the first empty box (of the three) and click Save user names. THne you can post in that forum.

[Novadream]

Originally posted by Andy Z
Have you run the installer for PHPTriad (or whatever one you downloaded)?


Yes I installed it..

I know where that forum is.. And they won't let me post in there because I havn't bought a license in which I am going to have to buy anyways.. But they won't let me LEARN how to use the software before I decide to buy it... what a joke.

I just want to learn how to use this software before I have a way to purchase it.. If I had a credit card like all the other trust fund babies in that forum I would've purchased a license when I first arrived here..

[Andy Z]

That's not very nice.

PayPal is also instant if you already have the funds in you PP balance.

You can check out the demo at http://vbulletin.com/admindemo/
to see a demo board and play with the admin side of things. Until then I can't help you install vB on your new test server until you have the files.

[Novadream]

Things I already knew before.

[ccd1]

No use installing any of this now because you don't even have the vBulletin to install.

Just wait until you can save $160 and then come back.

The thing is, you're not *learning* how to use vBulletin now, you're learning how to manage a server, and that's completely different.

[Novadream]

Originally posted by baragon0
No use installing any of this now because you don't even have the vBulletin to install.

Just wait until you can save $160 and then come back.

Oh I dont?

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
Oh I dont?

No, because you need a license to be able to download vBulletin.

Did you download it from somewhere other than the vBulletin members area? Do you have a license?

[Novadream]

It's ok If you don't want to share the knowledge that you have so I can learn something........

lets talk about something else then..


How's your day going baragon0?? I've been living the exact same day now for the past 8 years... It's like the movie ground hog day only 10 times worse.. you have no idea...

Do you have a family?

pets?


I have a family sort've.. I have 4 cats.. some fish, and I have a dog too. I dont really like any of those pets except for 2 of the cats...

??

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
It's ok If you don't want to share the knowledge that you have so I can learn something........


It's hard to teach someone who doesn't know how to walk to run.

lets talk about something else then..


Sure

How's your day going baragon0??


Fairly well, thank you.

I've been living the exact same day now for the past 8 years... It's like the movie ground hog day only 10 times worse.. you have no idea...
I'm afraid I never saw that one.

Do you have a family?


We all have families, but I'm not the type to build my own.

pets?


No. I'm all alone.

I have a family sort've.. I have 4 cats.. some fish, and I have a dog too. I dont really like any of those pets except for 2 of the cats...

They're lucky to have you.

[Novadream]

Does anybody wanna stop asking me questions and help me?


Or I guess you can come along and chat with me and this thing up here ^ who won't help me.. he just keeps asking me questions.

[ccd1]

I have answered every last question you have thrown at me.

However, the bottom line is, unless you are a valid license holder you cannot install vBulletin (even if it's just on your home computer).

That is why you don't have access to the forums for installation questions.

[Novadream]

Does anybody wanna stop asking me questions and help me?

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
Does anybody wanna stop asking me questions and help me?

Was there a question mark in my post?

I went on trying to help you for six pages while other people just ignored you, but this is really going nowhere.

Just proof that I'll never be cut out to be a father :)

Oh, forget it

[Novadream]

I am grateful..


I'd be grateful if I could have the information on what to do..

What exactly needs to be done..

I'm not allowed to know this information before I purachase my message board?


that information is free.. thats all I want to know.

I'm sure there are people who don't have message boards but they understand how to bulid one.. I don't see why someone won't share the information with me before I get my license.

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
I am grateful..


I'd be grateful if I could have the information on what to do..

What exactly needs to be done..

I'm not allowed to know this information before I purachase my message board?


that information is free.. thats all I want to know.

I'm sure there are people who don't have message boards but they understand how to bulid one.. I don't see why someone won't share the information with me before I get my license.

What information have you asked me for? You have not asked me for any information.

You just said you wanted to learn how to use the software. Well, you're already using it as we speak.

You're not "Building a message boards", you're just installing one that's already built and the output will be something identical to this one.

[Novadream]

What is the first step..

I have downloaded the phptriad.. and installed it


Now where do I start?

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
What is the first step..

I have downloaded the phptriad.. and installed it


Now where do I start?

To installing?

All you have to do is upload the vBulletin files to the www directory, edit config.php to point to your database (which you make through mySQL) and run install.php.

That's it.

However, since you do not have the vBulletin files, you cannot do that.

[Novadream]

Originally posted by baragon0
However, since you do not have the vBulletin files, you cannot do that.

It doesn't matter because since I won't have a way to purchase my board for about another 2 weeks.. in the meantime I might as well ask all the questions so I can just comeback to this thread and follow the instructions exactly.. I think thats a good idea..





Ok do I open apache first then?

[ccd1]

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56446

According to him, Windows ME is not supported as a server.

So just wait a couple weeks until you can get someone else to host your site.

In the mean time, try the admin demo to learn as much as you can until then. The admin demo pretty much has all the same things a clean install of your board will have.

[Novadream]

Originally posted by baragon0
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56446

According to him, Windows ME is not supported as a server.

Oh god ASKL laskf;sdall


This was one of the first things I said that people told me...


Then you kept saying no its ok win ME is fine... then u said nope.. use linux.. then u said ok use linux.. nope dont use it.. ok use it..

now back here again... and you wonder why I was so confused before....

I've been getting the run around for 5 months now.

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
Oh god ASKL laskf;sdall


This was one of the first things I said that people told me...


The you kept saying no its ok win ME is fine... then u said nope.. use linux.. then u said ok use linux.. nope dont use it.. ok use it..

now back here again... and you wonder why I was so confused before....

I've been getting the run around for 5 months now.

Just try to install it, it might work on ME.

What you are doing, though, is rather pointless, since you have nothing to install [vBulletin]. Just wait until you get a host and install it there.

[Novadream]

Originally posted by baragon0
Just try to install it, it might work on ME. Just don't expect to use it as a host.

I never ever wanted to.. I guess everyone was confused as to what my intentions were.

And that was.. I wanted to use my own computer just so I could get confortable with the software.. and basically use my HD has a test bed.. for my own knowledge.

I never wanted other people to surf around on my board while it was on my HD...

I want people to only surf around my message board when its hosted by a website...


So now that you clearly understand what I am trying to accomplish.. do you think what I am trying to do on my HD would work????

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
I never ever wanted to.. I guess everyone was confused as to what my intentions were.

And that was.. I wanted to use my own computer just so I could get confortable with the software.. and basically use my HD has a test bed.. for my own knowledge.

I never wanted other people to surf around on my board while it was on my HD...

I want people to only surf around my message board when its hosted by a website...


So now that you clearly understand what I am trying to accomplish.. do you think what I am trying to do on my HD would work????

No, because you don't have the software to install.

You need to buy the software before you can "test" it.

[Novadream]

Originally posted by baragon0
No, because you don't have the software to install.

You need to buy the software before you can "test" it.

LISTEN MAN!!!!!!!!!!!! I am aware of that..

We've gone over this time after time after time!!!!!!!!! You just keep coming back to the things we;ve already gone over...

I said I'm asking ym questions NOW... so when I get the software I wont have to ask them then.,...

So now I'll ask that same question again...


Originally posted by Novadream
I never ever wanted to.. I guess everyone was confused as to what my intentions were.

And that was.. I wanted to use my own computer just so I could get confortable with the software.. and basically use my HD has a test bed.. for my own knowledge.

I never wanted other people to surf around on my board while it was on my HD...

I want people to only surf around my message board when its hosted by a website...


So now that you clearly understand what I am trying to accomplish.. do you think what I am trying to do on my HD would work????

Answer that hypothetically as if I had the software right now.. because when I come back to this I WILL HAVE PURCHASED MY LICENSE!!!!!

[ccd1]

Wait until you have it, then so you know what to ask.

Read the manual, that's what it's there for. It has everything you need.

But, in a nutshell, all you have to do is click install.php and it's all automatic (besides adding your database name to config.php).

It's like teaching you how to ride a bike without a bike. Does that seem logical to you?

[Novadream]

Originally posted by baragon0
It's like teaching you how to ride a bike without a bike. Does that seem logical to you?

Yes if we were in a bicycyle enviroment... I could show you on a model bike how to ride a real bike..

We're on the internet trying to describe how something that works on the internet works... so it shouldn be that difficult to describe it here.. no.

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream

We're on the internet trying to describe how something that works on the internet works... so it shouldn be that difficult to describe it here.. no.

What you are doing now. Using this board. Typing and posting. That's all you really need to know. The rest is in the Admin Demo. You don't need to know anything else. This is meant to be just that easy.

We can't give you any support or help on installation until you have your vBulletin to cut down on piracy. That is why the Installation forum is open only to licensed members.

[Novadream]

Ok I'm typing and posting now... wheres my board? [obvious sarcasm]




But, in a nutshell, all you have to do is click install.php and it's all automatic (besides adding your database name to config.php).

How do I do that? Where is it located??

What are the first steps I need to do??? <-- Why do I always ask this question and never get answers?

[ccd1]

I already said, put the vBulletin files (download them from the members area) in your website directory.

Open config.php and put in your database name and its location.

Run install.php and follow the instructions on that screen

That's it. Your boards are up and running

[Novadream]

What is my website directory? Where is my website directory?

[ccd1]

It's where Apache looks for your files.

Check in your apache configuration.

[Cary]

What I don't understand is why you (Novadream) need to know all this stuff when you didn't buy a licence yet.

Go read http://www.vbulletin.com/manual/install.html - it should answer all your questions.

[Novadream]

Originally posted by Cary
What I don't understand is why you (Novadream) need to know all this stuff when you didn't buy a licence yet.


I already answered that twice.. and this will be thr 3rd time now.... because I'm just going to be asking the exact same questions when I eventually have the funds to purchase my board.. So instead've wasting the time I have now.. I'm asking the questions so that I can come back here and follow the instructions completely.

[ccd1]

Originally posted by Novadream
I already answered that twice.. and this will be thr 3rd time now.... because I'm just going to be asking the exact same questions when I eventually have the funds to purchase my board.. So instead've wasting the time I have now.. I'm asking the questions so that I can come back here and follow the instructions completely.

If, that's the case, then all of your questions have already been answered in the manual

It's all self-explanitory, you shouldn't need to have any questions. If, while you're doing that, you have doubts, then go ahead and ask. But even I was able to install it back when I didn't even know what Apache or PHP was.