Detlef
Mon 11th Dec '00, 5:57pm
Hi,
how can I backup my vBulletin 'Forum3' -- who can tell?
I have rented webspace from an ISP (Linux, Apache). The access through FTP and TELNET is fine, MySQL (3.22.32?) works fine. The database files of my 'Forum3' reside on that server in the folder
var/mysql/Forum3
and wait for me that I come and draw backups.
But the ISP technician sais: “I cannot give you access to that folder, BECAUSE:
The folder has to belong to the user 'mysql', because 'mysql' needs to read in and write to that folder.
IF we would allow user 'detlef' to access your folder, I would have to withdraw the permission from 'mysql', and 'mysql' cannot read or write any longer.
WE COULD set the permissions of that folder 'Forum3' to 777,
THEN 'detlef' and 'mysql' can read and write, BUT anybody else can read and write as well; so that is NOT A GOOD SOLUTION.”
I tried to argue:
“Put 'mysql' and 'detlef' into one group and give our folder 'Forum3' as a property to this group.”
But the server technician answered something like this:
“Groups in Linux are strict hierarchical – if two users belong to the same group than they are either dependent (president and member) or two members of this same group; a user cannot be free on the one hand side and at the same time belong to different groups (like football team and rowing club and being a free man in the rest of the week).”
I said, I do not believe this, because other ISPs CAN give access to the 'mysql' folder.
“May be”, the ISP technician said, “but I do not know.”
Now my question to all you wise vB-Technicians:
Does someone know how to access one folder from two users?
[Edited by Detlef on 12-11-2000 at 05:02 PM]
how can I backup my vBulletin 'Forum3' -- who can tell?
I have rented webspace from an ISP (Linux, Apache). The access through FTP and TELNET is fine, MySQL (3.22.32?) works fine. The database files of my 'Forum3' reside on that server in the folder
var/mysql/Forum3
and wait for me that I come and draw backups.
But the ISP technician sais: “I cannot give you access to that folder, BECAUSE:
The folder has to belong to the user 'mysql', because 'mysql' needs to read in and write to that folder.
IF we would allow user 'detlef' to access your folder, I would have to withdraw the permission from 'mysql', and 'mysql' cannot read or write any longer.
WE COULD set the permissions of that folder 'Forum3' to 777,
THEN 'detlef' and 'mysql' can read and write, BUT anybody else can read and write as well; so that is NOT A GOOD SOLUTION.”
I tried to argue:
“Put 'mysql' and 'detlef' into one group and give our folder 'Forum3' as a property to this group.”
But the server technician answered something like this:
“Groups in Linux are strict hierarchical – if two users belong to the same group than they are either dependent (president and member) or two members of this same group; a user cannot be free on the one hand side and at the same time belong to different groups (like football team and rowing club and being a free man in the rest of the week).”
I said, I do not believe this, because other ISPs CAN give access to the 'mysql' folder.
“May be”, the ISP technician said, “but I do not know.”
Now my question to all you wise vB-Technicians:
Does someone know how to access one folder from two users?
[Edited by Detlef on 12-11-2000 at 05:02 PM]